Poll: Springs

[240SXedUp]

Im about to buy lowering springs. Just wanted to know what youd pick between Pro-Kit, Sportline, S-Tech, RS-R Downs, and Whitelines and why you picked them. Thanks for any suggestions.Which do you suggest?

[TurboKA37]

ive got whitelines and i like them alot. cant really give a fair comparison to the others cuz ive only drivin with the whitelines and stock but i can say that the whitelines drop the the car to a nice level where the car looks sporty but not too low. and they retain a decent ride but also are stiffer than stock which reduces body roll and gives a better feel to the car.

[tex240]

do you have a picture with the whitleines on to show us? Thanx

[Phax]

I went with the Pro-Kit because I wanted a comfortable ride on the street with some sportier handling. They work well on my car, I think in part because of all the various braces and bars that I have to counter-act body roll. If you don't plan on doing all the bushings, bars and braces, you might want to look for something a bit stiffer than the Pro-Kit.

[TurboKA37]

do you have a picture with the whitleines on to show us? Thanx

yea, i have a few pics up on my cardomain site. click on my website link to see

[ride4lame]

i would recomend saving for a while and getting coilovers, they are way better, and in the long run, you won't have to pay for things twice.

If i had to pick though, tein always makes good stuff, and i am usually impressed with rs*r

[jjns13]

S-Tech's, Tein is a good company

[offtheline]

H&R sports. I chose them because they have a great reputation and provided a bit more of a drop than the teins. Otherwise I would have gone with those.

[240SXedUp]

Quote »i would recomend saving for a while and getting coilovers, they are way better, and in the long run, you won't have to pay for things twice.[/quote] How much better are coilovers than springs/struts. Is the difference worth the $500+ that they cost? I mean I can get a front Q45 or Z32 upgrade with that money. Quote »If you don't plan on doing all the bushings, bars and braces, you might want to look for something a bit stiffer than the Pro-Kit.[/quote] Ya, I definately am gonna go all out on suspension. Im a suspension junkie and i like spending money on that more than looks and hp (tho hp is a close 2nd). Right now i only have a front strut bar but im planing on more. I dont have a whole lot of time but im setting my goal to spring break to be able to do a bunch of installs. Im getting my car repainted then and getting all the dents and stuff worked out at the body shop in march. When i get it back i hope to be able to do bushings, sways, front brake upgrade, rear rotors/pads, tension rods, and maybe headers. And also springs/struts. Ive been saving up and im buying stuff piece by piece.

One question. Its probably noob question. But what is a camber correction kit? Is that something worth buying? Correct me if im wrong but from what ive gathered it makes it so your wheels arent like / \ and straightens them | | Is that correct?

[180fan]

Tiens suck. They won't last long just did a shock job on another fastback with s-techs and they're already giving out. Go with something proven like the Eibachs. Sportlines drop too much for my taste, so I'd say go with the prokit. Want something stiffer than the prokit, get the RSR.

[240SXedUp]

Ya, i was just looking around and i saw that Teins arent very good for ride comfort. I want something that is gonna be comfortable to ride in. If the whitelines are as good as everyone says ill probably just get the package from PDM.

[TurboKA37]

i did get the package from pdm. its a very nice suspension set-up. as for the camber correction you were right. camber is the measure in degrees that the wheels are tilted. when the car is lowered the wheels will become more negative in camber. the rear camber correction bushings from PDM work by having a off center hole in the inner sleeve. that way you can rotate the sleeve around the bolt that goes through the hole to move the upper control arms outward and inward to change camber. after lowering my car and setting the camber correction sleeves/bushings to give the most positive possible the rear wheels measured in at about -1.3 degrees of camber. i was looking to get the rear to around -1.1 but -1.3 will do. the front camber correction is a bit different. it uses bolts that can change the angle that the front struts attach to the hub assembly. kind of hard to explain but it works

[NeedCAforS13]

Ya, i was just looking around and i saw that Teins arent very good for ride comfort. I want something that is gonna be comfortable to ride in. If the whitelines are as good as everyone says ill probably just get the package from PDM.

i LOVE my tein's:D. they ride great, and I've been in cars with all kinds of suspension set ups... the s-techs are a good compromise between performance and comfort (they're actually quite a bit softer than any of the other ones you have in your poll) and mine are holding up well. no sagging what-so-ever! I also like that they don't slam my car. I can still take bumps at a good speed and not worry about killing my front spoiler:)





Sean

[book-ends]

I assume that you didn't put RS-R race springs on your list because you thought that they might be too stiff? I'll be ordering a set as soon as I sell my truck. I know what you're saying when you want to spend the difference on a coilover kit for something like brakes..........Money doesn't grow on trees, but the difference is probably worth it.

Here's what I figure:

1. RS-R Race Srings: $235, KYB AGX shocks: $420, Rear Upper Arms: $295, Camber plates: $300 (used for all four corners???)

Total: $1250

2. Tein Type Flex Coilovers: $1395, RUCA's: $295

Total: $1690

You can get a few quality items for the difference ($450) if you shop around. If you get the coilovers the benefits are obvious (like corner weighting your car, having coilovers, being cool) but is that worth the money. Like I said, it doesn't grow on trees, but it might be something to think about.

[TurboKA37]

camber plates are only useful on the front struts. if you get RUCAs they will allow you to adjust the camber for the rear assuming you get decent ones that have adjustability. and i dont think camber plates will work with stock style struts.

[book-ends]

Really? I was under the assumption that you just remove the hat from your stock struts and replace them with the camber plates. Anybody else know if that's true or not?

[TurboKA37]

hmm, i guess they do work. i didnt kno that the top hats were replaced, i was thinking coilovers came with completly different top hats that wouldnt work on stock struts.

[ride4lame]

coilovers are best because they provide the most amount of adjustablity. They let you change the ride height as well as the damping level. The springs on a coilover are designed to work at the same rate as the shock, as opposed to a spring/shock combo that are not designed specifically to work with each other.

as jeans guy posted above, coilovers aren't THAT much more. He listed things you don't really need... but thats besides the point. For the extra cash you will be much happier. Tein HE's will have all the options you want, and they can be had for like 1250 shipped if you search around. I seriously recomend coilovers as opposed to spring/shock combos

[240SXedUp]

I hate saving I guess I will tho. I wouldve done that group buy in B/S/T, but i dont have the moneyYa, the race springs i assumed would be alot stiffer. Ok, changing the thread a bit. What is the cheapest coilover i can get that is reputable and known to be good? Teins?

[Turb0wned]

i have eibach's i like them alot

[JohnI3laze]

It's not on your poll but I like my Tanabe GFs. They lowered my car only like 1.5 inches which is exacly what I wanted. They work very well with my KYBs. Plus the orange springs on red struts looks sweet.

[book-ends]

240SXedUp,

You should check out what Sam has to offer over at http://www.jspec.com They now have Tanabe Sustec Pro coilovers for your S14 for only $820!! The cheapest, made in Japan, coilover that you can get. Boom.

[240SXedUp]

So the Tanabe SoC2s would be worth the extra $200 that a Eibach/AGX combo would cost? Is the coilover setup's performance $200 better than a Spring/strut setup's?

[Phax]

The cheapest, made in Japan, coilover that you can get. Boom.

Yeah, but do you gotta send them back to Japan to get them revalved, or is there a place here in the US to get that done?

[Phax]

Is the coilover setup's performance $200 better than a Spring/strut setup's?

If you get the car corner weighted, then yes. If not, you're not going to notice much difference.

[book-ends]

Keep in mind though, that the Tanabe's do not have dampening adjustment like the KYB's.......give a little, get a little. Like Phax says, get the car corner weighted with some sticky tires and you'll smoke a lot of rides on the street and track (with good brakes to match by the way). It isn't always about power. In fact, unless you're racing up-hill Initial D style, power is the least of my concerns!!

[bpowell3]

All though i heard that the RS*R Race springs and Koni Yellows make a nice combo. even as nice as a set of coilovers

[prigo]

My Eibach Pros arn't bad, the ride is a bit stiff, but that's to be expected.

I love how they handle tho. The AGX shocks go very well with them, gotta love being able to change the settings

[S14Life]

I chose Sportlines simply because I liked the low aggressive race car look. Although I paied them up with Koni Yellows, so my car didn't go as low as I hoped =/

I still think it looks great tho.

http://www.cardomain.com/id/blindspeed

[574-240sx]

I choose the sportlines paired with the KYB AGXs. I bought them from tire rack 2 days before an auto-X. I need suspension before the Auto-X. I should have saved up money for the full coilover but pairing them with the KYB AGXs is the second best alternative. Nick