Poll: Most favor bipartisanship; Democrats, not so much

[audtatious]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITI....html

"Fifty-five percent of all respondents questioned in the poll would rather see the president try to pass laws with bipartisan compromise. But that number drops 15 points, to 40 percent, among Democrats in the survey. Fifty-eight percent of Democrats would rather see Obama try to pass laws without Republican support."

I want both sides to work together for the greater good of the US and not their pocket books or pet projects. I do wonder what this poll would have shown in 2005 when the Republicans had Congress and the Executive office as it may have been similar (who knows).

[Jacko3]

We need another civil war so that red state creatures can start their own planet and blue state creatures can start their own planet. It seems the center cannot hold any longer. (LMAO).

The Karl Roves, Lee Atwater, and Paul Begalla's of the world, have succeeded in tearing apart the soul of this nation with unseemly political ideology. Our nation has been raped by political ideologues in ways that makes me hang my head down in shame when I think about it. When God comes in the final days, whow ill he save and tak with him to heaven----red state indigenes or blue state indigenes???? I beleive God is either a democrat and/or is democratic. He said, in the bible, "Let us make man in our own image". Who is the "let" in that comment? The "let" represents a group of bearded old guys in the clouds who makes celestial decisions for this universe. LMAO!

[wawazat8402]

I always considered myself a Democrat, however, as I get older and form more informed opinions I find myself to be just another boring Utilitarian. There are things I really like about both parties, but most of them are from the parties of old. It seems both parties have changed for the worse and see the other as an enemy instead of part of the solution. Both parties represent about the same number of Americans and should thus show an equal representation in our bills and laws. Its always aggravated when politics seem to be more about winning than just serving the common good of the people in this great country. I think both parties would make our forefathers roll over in their grave today.

[audtatious]

I think both parties would make our forefathers roll over in their grave today.

Yup.

[C-Kwik]

I do wonder what this poll would have shown in 2005 when the Republicans had Congress and the Executive office as it may have been similar (who knows).

From the article:

" "Bipartisanship is always more popular with the party out of power than with the party that is in control," said CNN polling director Keating Holland. "

This was my initial thought as well.

[480sx]

I think both parties would make our forefathers roll over in their grave today.

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Bipartisenship was great when we were dividing from England. We wanted to be different, we wanted to start fresh, ect. However, we grew up, evolved along with the world and IMO, bipartisenship is tearing this country apart. As i have said elsewhere, its now creating a situation where people are divided over the dumbest issues that are almost religiously based.

Sometime when you have a free chance, watch the BBC equivalent to C-Span. It kicks a**. Real debates going on, real progress being made, on a daily basis. It allows the best of the best to represent their respective people, not just the best person out of half of them.

Just to name a few small issues i have with the current political institution...

Republicans are for limited federal government. WHAT THE FVK KIND OF LOAD OF HORSE s*** IS THAT? Theres more federal government now than ever before, its sucking us dry. Its also really, really scary.

Democrats believe in socialistic agendas no matter what. 10 trillion dollars in debt, during a global recession is NOT the freaken time for socialist agendas.

I could also get into how blurred the parties have become, with the bail outs among other things but i chose not to.

Abortion, Gay marriage, Stem cell research, and im sure im missing a few.. Constitutes a list of issues that America is so polarized over. Issues that shouldnt be much of a concern to the government at all, but yet key issues that get people elected. Bush, the 'Good Christian Value' man won, TWICE, and look at what his executive branch has done to this country. Its 2009, how long is it going to take for our political institution to evolve to a point where it truly becomes a representative democracy again? How can you call this a representative democracy with overall government approval ratings in the 30-40 percent?! Out with the old, in with the new.

Why is it not possible for one party to represent 70-80 percent of the population? We CAN do something about this, its just not being done. We need to send the bastards home and start fresh. I hate to say it, but the hard libbies and the hard rights need to become politically insignificant. They have their fair chance at regaining control, the same way that any new party does. With the world of YouTube and the internet, we can start a new party at any given day. I dont want to see a red or blue USA party map anymore, that s***s tired, over played, and in its last throws IMO.

I want to see it go green(DONT DO IT ), with pockets of blue in NE and pockets of red in the central US.

[audtatious]

From the article:

" "Bipartisanship is always more popular with the party out of power than with the party that is in control," said CNN polling director Keating Holland. "

This was my initial thought as well.

Which is what I was alluding to. Honestly I had rather have all decisions bipartisan. Problem is that the right has gone left and neither side represents Fiscal-conservative values anymore. If they are all bad then all decisions, bipartisan or not, may be bad for the country as a whole.

[C-Kwik]

Which is what I was alluding to. Honestly I had rather have all decisions bipartisan. Problem is that the right has gone left and neither side represents Fiscal-conservative values anymore. If they are all bad then all decisions, bipartisan or not, may be bad for the country as a whole.

Right. I was merely pointing out that someone who may have seen such statistics is stating the type of results seen when the tables are turned.

[liquid_cool]

ohh this is funny!...when republicans were in power..the dems would scream "minority rites!" or " partisan politics!"..now that there in power..its partisan as it can be..truth be told...its supposed to be partisan politics..thats how we as a nation form debate and separate our 2 partys from one onother...if there allways working alike..they might as well be one party!...debate is healthy in politics..it brings out the truth...and ya someone was rite saying that these 2 partys in there current form would make the founding fathers roll in there graves...democrats are the same..but the republicans have started to try to imitate them..hence there loss of this last election with McCain the Rino! "R=Republican I=In N=Name O=Only!"..this guys should have went to the dems side long ago adn drag Olyimpia Snow with him forever!...the republicans will continue to loose big if they dont separate themselves idealisticly from the Democrats.

[Jacko3]

ohh this is funny!...when republicans were in power..the dems would scream "minority rites!" or " partisan politics!"..now that there in power..its partisan as it can be..truth be told...its supposed to be partisan politics..thats how we as a nation form debate and separate our 2 partys from one onother...if there allways working alike..they might as well be one party!...debate is healthy in politics..it brings out the truth...and ya someone was rite saying that these 2 partys in there current form would make the founding fathers roll in there graves...democrats are the same..but the republicans have started to try to imitate them..hence there loss of this last election with McCain the Rino! "R=Republican I=In N=Name O=Only!"..this guys should have went to the dems side long ago adn drag Olyimpia Snow with him forever!...the republicans will continue to loose big if they dont separate themselves idealisticly from the Democrats.

This is true! However, the question for republicans is, what ideas are they going to use in order to differentiate themselves? If they pick the wrong ideas as a matter of historical precedence, they will be toast. If they pick no ideas at all, they are also toast. So, the situation for republicans, politically, is going to be a difficult one, until they find themselves. How long this process of self-discovery will last, is anyone's guess.

[liquid_cool]

Palinius Magnus!..is wonder to behold when it comes to the original founding fathers idea's and fiscal responcibility..thats what the republican party should emulate.

[HashiriyaS14]

The idea that the Democrats are not displaying a spirit of bipartisanship is subjective.

Lots was trimmed out of that bill, which alone shows some spirit of cooperation. The fundamental structure of it as a spending bill was not about to change, as most professional economists regardless of political affiliation agree that a dollar spent to extend unemployment benefits during a recession will have a greater net economic impact than a dollar spent in forfeited tax revenue.

And YES, tax cuts when we are already running a deficit IS FEDERAL SPENDING. It's just an expenditure on a different item.

It was never going to be primarily a tax cut package. Low taxes are great for keeping the economy healthy and robust during times of growth, but not for staving off depression.

The GOP, particularly in the House, has a marked interest in seeing Obama fail to fix the economy in hopes of saying "we told you so" in 2010. They ARE willing to work against the common good to achieve this.

[Jacko3]

The idea that the Democrats are not displaying a spirit of bipartisanship is subjective.

Lots was trimmed out of that bill, which alone shows some spirit of cooperation. The fundamental structure of it as a spending bill was not about to change, as most professional economists regardless of political affiliation agree that a dollar spent to extend unemployment benefits during a recession will have a greater net economic impact than a dollar spent in forfeited tax revenue.

And YES, tax cuts when we are already running a deficit IS FEDERAL SPENDING. It's just an expenditure on a different item.

It was never going to be primarily a tax cut package. Low taxes are great for keeping the economy healthy and robust during times of growth, but not for staving off depression.

Excellently said! Very well said! This very theory you postulate, which can be difficult for the layman to ordinarily understand, is taken advantage of by politicians, in order to shroud the truth you have presented from their constituencies.

[480sx]

And YES, tax cuts when we are already running a deficit IS FEDERAL SPENDING. It's just an expenditure on a different item.

Backwards spending if you will.

The GOP, particularly in the House, has a marked interest in seeing Obama fail to fix the economy in hopes of saying "we told you so" in 2010. They ARE willing to work against the common good to achieve this.

It will be interesting to see examples of this, if any arise. You wonder how committed the GOP is to taking back power, are they willing to sacrifice productivity and possibly moves that could have real benefits? I would just be happy to see them stick to party lines personally, thats all they have going for them now. That an POSSIBLY getting the R vote back, which cant be underestimated. If they are to have a chance in 2011 they need to revamp their image and political stance.

[Jacko3]

Backwards spending if you will. .

In economics and sometimes, pseudo-economics, the colloquial term, "backward spending" is actually indirect spending. Taxation is a form of indirect expenditure.[/QUOTE]

It will be interesting to see examples of this, if any arise. You wonder how committed the GOP is to taking back power, are they willing to sacrifice productivity and possibly moves that could have real benefits? I would just be happy to see them stick to party lines personally, thats all they have going for them now. That an POSSIBLY getting the R vote back, which cant be underestimated. If they are to have a chance in 2011 they need to revamp their image and political stance.

There are already some hints to this fact. perhaps, the following links should provide a measure of muse on such an account.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...mulus

http://content.usatoday.com/co...621/1

http://politicalticker.blogs.c...mulus/

http://politicalticker.blogs.c...warns/

http://content.usatoday.com/co...002/1