polk or rockford speakers?

[blancs3030]

ive listened to both, polk from circuit city, and rockford at bestbuy, after listening to them flat and with eq and loudness. i honestly liked the sound of the rockfords. what do you guys think.

Looking to go with the rockford P1694C or polk audio db691 for 6x9s and rockford P163C or T162C for the 6.5s seems to be a lot of clearance issues with the 6.5 does anybody know any more about it? Boston Acoustics S35 for the 3.5s.

oh yea this will be powered just by the pioneer d3 hu.

[Looneybomber]

First and foremost, trust your ears! Everyones preception of sound differs slightly along with their ideas of what sounds good. For example, some people might run their tweeters a db or two hot, where-as others may run their mids a db or two cold. I perfer a 2-3db dip between 2.5-5khz because it sounds harsh to my ears otherwise.

However, don't be fooled by the people running their subs 12-15db hot so you can't hear a damn thing except for boom bu boom. That's just plain rediculous!

Long story short, if it sounds good to you (the Fosgates), buy them! As for mixing and matching BA and Rockford, I'm all for timbre matching speakers. In other words, I say don't do it.

[EW]

Most people will pick the louder speaker if A/B'd. You can not hear them side by side to compare. You should be using a real CD(not compressed) with a clean, full range track to listen to each choice. Loud upper mid or tweeter will give you ear fatigue quickly. How about a JL TR or VR?

[blancs3030]

i haven't heard the JLs, so i wouldnt know, as for BA for the 3.5, those are the only 3.5 i can find that will drop in fit in the dash.

[the converted]

Are you guys talking about putting a 6.5 coaxial in the door and a 3.5 coaxial in the dash? If you are I've tried similar set ups and wasn't really all that happy. I'd just recommend a decent set of separates. Between the money you would spend on the 6.5's and the 3.5's your practically there.

[blancs3030]

are you talking about putting a 6.5 component in the door, and taking out the 3.5 in the dash and putting the tweeter there? sounds interesting, i just don't know how hard it would be to run the wire to the 3.5 spot. how does the wiring work there, when i put the new head unit in, it only had two pairs of wires for the fronts. are the 3.5s just spliced in with the 6.5?

[the converted]

Yeah they are just split off. The way I usually do this is to put the crossovers in the center console and run the factory wires for the midranges and run new wires to the tweeters. Not all that much work really.

[PoorManQ45]

Neither. They're both overpriced.

Atleast buy them online!

I'll recommend DLS though

[blancs3030]

well how about going with the Boston Acoustics S series on all my speakers, I've never been able to hear them, any opinions? And the DLS your talking about it looks like i would need an amp to power those, would any on those in the 6.5 or 6x9 or ....7x10 nice...... sound good and run good on just 50 watt max , 25 rms?
Modified by blancs3030 at 5:59 AM 11/13/2007

[PoorManQ45]

And the DLS your talking about it looks like i would need an amp to power those, would any on those in the 6.5 or 6x9 or ....7x10 nice...... sound good and run good on just 50 watt max , 25 rms?

Nope. Get an amp

Any speaker you choose will sound better when you use an aftermarket amp instead of the HU power

[blancs3030]

i really don't want to go through the hassle in putting in an amp, that's why i was thinking the boston S series might run better because their wattage is lower.

[PoorManQ45]

You don't need an amp. It will just improve sound quality

Unfortunately you can't get any component speakers like i'm recommending as they require an amp.

Like the others said. Get whatever sounds best to you

[turboabuser18]

go with the rocksfords. depending on model rocksford are usually made a little better and have the best clarity. just my .02

[joe603]

Focal or MB Quart...if you can afford the price of admission. Boston sounds ok...but the Polk Momo's are better.

[Tsukiko]

Most people will pick the louder speaker if A/B'd. You can not hear them side by side to compare. You should be using a real CD(not compressed) with a clean, full range track to listen to each choice. Loud upper mid or tweeter will give you ear fatigue quickly. How about a JL TR or VR?

most mainstream music (actually, music PERIOD) is so compressed (audio wise, not digitally/ i.e. bit/sample rate reduction as in MP3s) in mastering that its **** anyway. Anything on the radio or intended for airplay is extremely limited by mastering engineers to make it as loud as possible, The belief being that louder songs catch your attention. It is also compressed by the radio station for broadcast!!! so many albums these days have no dynamic range, and are incredibly fatiguing to the human ear.

louder is rarely better! listen to the balance of the speaker (frequency response, distortion, etc), in relation to your stock speakers, if at all possible. I could go on but i dont want to go off on a total sound engineer's rant.... its time for bed anyway.

[PoorManQ45]

most mainstream music (actually, music PERIOD) is so compressed (audio wise, not digitally/ i.e. bit/sample rate reduction as in MP3s) in mastering that its **** anyway. Anything on the radio or intended for airplay is extremely limited by mastering engineers to make it as loud as possible, The belief being that louder songs catch your attention. It is also compressed by the radio station for broadcast!!! so many albums these days have no dynamic range, and are incredibly fatiguing to the human ear.

Exactly right. IIRC most albums have less then 20dB of dynamic range, really somewhere in the 10dB range.

dire straits- money for nothing had something like 60dB of dynamic range. You could crank your radio to 11 and it would still sound good. Very little distortion.

[Tsukiko]

Exactly right. IIRC most albums have less then 20dB of dynamic range, really somewhere in the 10dB range.

dire straits- money for nothing had something like 60dB of dynamic range. You could crank your radio to 11 and it would still sound good. Very little distortion.

im not even sure that the range of a lot of recordings is that high... we took some cds into lab one day and imported them into protools onto a stereo track... the waveform looked like a solid freakin bar.

then again i listen to a lot of metal... oh well. even the pop stuff is ridiculous. actually especially the pop stuff. like 2 to 3 dB of dynamic range. its such an epidemic that mastering engineers have learned to limit the crap out of a recording unless they're told not to, and if they even suggest that it not be turned into a sausage instead of a waveform, they often get fired. everyone wants LOUD, not understanding that most of the time, they are killing fidelity and people's ears.

lets put it this way... digital signal will distort at 0. mastering engineers set their output ceiling at -.3, and most of the time they are trying to make sure the entire mix stays just below that point!