Please Help With My 97 J30

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alexhho
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I purchased the car last year in NJ when it had 50,000 miles on it. I drove less than 5,000 miles this past year, including the 1,000 miles trip back home to Iowa City without any problems. The only potential problems I noticed were the bad gas mileage (16mpg in the city), and a slight, noticable gas smell from the exhaust on start-ups.

Yesterday I purchased a drop-in K&N airfilter, and was looking at the fuse box under the hood for the ECU fuse, so that I can reset the ECU after dropping the filter in. I couldn't find an ECU fuse, but more disturbingly I discovered that the small, 7.5A "Injector Fuse" was missing. Upon closer examination, I discovered that one of the metal connectors of that space for the fuse was missing as well.

The guy who sold me the car had said that a family mechanic had been meticulously maintaining all of the family cars. I'm just wondering if the mechanic had rigged my J30 somehow. I have been driving the J30 fine for the past year on a daily basis. And the car shouldn't even run at all without the INJECTOR FUSE, shouldn't it? I would appreciate any advice here. Thank you.


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Interesting... I'd definately check with another car of the same model on the injector fuse issue to see if one is there. The injectors are getting power from somewhere - so it may be a design change on the later J30 vs. earlier models.

As far as your poor gas mileage and smell - I'd lean either toward bad O2 sensors or an injector bleeding down while the car sits.

Heath

alexhho
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Hey! Thanks, Heath. I believed you have helped me before, and I appreciate your help. Can my car be running all this time if the Injector Fuse is not there, or are you saying that the injector is getting it's power source from something else? I looked the car over thoroughly, and there's not a hint of modifications anywhere. Thanks.

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Different fuses. It sounds like the pump might be hard-wired somewhere. Just curious, is there voltage across the fuel pump fuse socket?

alexhho
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Hmm. I don't have a voltage meter to test that, but the fuel pump fuse (which is right above it) is intact, and it doesn't look like it has ever been touched. And why would one need to hardwire the fuel pump? Wouldn't there be a malfunction light indicator on my display panel? Thanks, Daedalus.

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Yeah the car won't run if it's the fuse I'm thinking about...which is probably the fuel pump. I used to pull that fuse when the common flooding problem occured.

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Alexho, sorry, I misread your first post. I meant that the injector circuit sounds like it's hard-wired, just like you suspect; not the fuel pump.I don't think injector shorts are too common, but it would be nice to have some chance of saving the wiring/ECU if it were to happen. Fuses are a good thing.

alexhho
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I agree with your assessment, Daedalus, which is why I was very disturbed when I saw that it was missing. But I can't test the voltage, because one of the metal clips on the Injector Fuse socket was removed.

I wanted to reset the ECU after dropping in K&N filter for a quicker adaptation. But now that this problem is discovered, do you still suggest I should reset the ECU? Thanks again.

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I don't see how resetting the ECU will cause any problems. It's only if your injector shorts that you will likely have a very bad and expensive day. If the metal clip to the socket was removed, maybe it is spliced together nearby? The only reason I can think of to ever bypass the fuseblock is if there's a hard-to-reach broken wire somewhere. Hopefully whoever did the work wire a fuse in somewhere.

alexhho
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You don't by chance know where the ECU fuse is located? I looked through my owner's manual, and the two fuse boxes in my car, but I can't locate the ECU fuse anywhere. Thanks.

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Sorry, I don't even know where it is on my own car. Don't the fuse covers have labeled diagrams? When I want to reset the ECU, I just disconnect the battery for 24 hours.

juiceman
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Disconnect battery terminal

Let sit for awhile

Reconnect

Loose radio settings but that is easy to correct

alexhho
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Yeah! I knew about the disconnecting the negative on the battery, but I didn't want to mess with that. I was hoping to take the safer route by removing the ECU fuse, which all five of my previous cars had, but it doesn't seem like my J30 does.

Yes. There are diagrams underneath the fuse boxes, but the ECU fuse is not listed ;-(

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Just take the time to disconnect both, pull the battery and clean up the mess that happens on and around the battery

Good time for some preventative maint

Sorry didn't mean to be curt before. Had a very bad week.

Good luck with the K&N

alexhho
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Thanks, Juiceman. No worries! The weekend's here. Enjoy your weekend. Take care, man.


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