please help anyone.....engine problems

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timgbuggy04
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I have a 2006 m45 and all of sudden while driving on the eway the engine started knocking/ticking. I pulled over checked the oil and it was damn there empty. That was strange because about two weeks ago i got an oil changed. I added some oil but it still made the knocking/ticking sound. I towed it to dealership and they basically told me I needed a new motor but the warranty was to 70,000 miles and i had 71,000 miles. This is f***ing crazy......can any one help.


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Who changed your oil?

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dvan
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Tim,

Im SO sorry to hear about this! Does the sound sound anything like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDQeCOJZcDM

My problem apparently wast due to oil loss. The root cause was never found for the broken piston. I was almost in your situation, I managed to drag my car into the dealer with that noise going on right around 68,500 miles on the odometer. Luckly, the engine replacement was covered under warrenty. Good thing, because it cost well over $10,000 to replace....EEKK

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OMG thats exact sound it is making.....it makes my stomach turn

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i went to a pit pros......The problem im having is the fact that this has happen to many infinti owners withe vk model engines and infinti has not issue any recall or even told the owners of the cars about it. I just didnt expect something to like this to happen with an infinti maybe a chevy or ford but we pay too much to worry about something like this....I understand my car is out of warranty but i still feel like infinti should replace the motor.....I called the coprate office and they have a special dept that handles owners expenses when they are out of warranty so hopefully they help me out cause this is not fair. I would report them to BBB and all the papers before i ay $12,000 for a new motor

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I had the same problem and the sound dvan had on start up once a week or so, my car only had 29kmi on it and was a CPO car. The engine was replaced under warranty, when I went to see if they forgot a sensor their was another V8 sitting next to it. I would put out a post and have people report the issue, it seams as common as the fuel gauge issue with the earlier Ms and it is well known by Infiniti. File a complaint with the NHTSA as I did, I never followed it up but if enough is done Infiniti will own up to this issue such as Lexus did with the 3.0L V6 in which all owners get a 10/120mi warranty on the engines because it had a sludge problem. This single issue pisses me off about the car as it is completely unfair to expect people to shell out 10 or more grand for a motor, this should not be an issue till past 200kmi in todays cars. If you have all service records and dont get at least 50% paid for I would call a lawyer...they will get results and cost u less than the motor.

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Is there anyway to know if your oil pressure is getting low? Is there a sensor or warning light? Im worried about this too.

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I called infinti directely at 800 662 6200 and pressed option 3 to get to the consumer complaints and basically they said they were going to take care of my engine problem even through it was out of warrenty.

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timgbuggy04 wrote:I called infinti directely at 800 662 6200 and pressed option 3 to get to the consumer complaints and basically they said they were going to take care of my engine problem even through it was out of warrenty.
Did they give you a hard time at all, because that would be really interesting if they just said OK without a fight...

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timgbuggy04 wrote:I called infinti directely at 800 662 6200 and pressed option 3 to get to the consumer complaints and basically they said they were going to take care of my engine problem even through it was out of warrenty.
AWESOME, CONGRATS! That made my day

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Seriously, I'm so glad for you man...my cohones got small when I read that you past the 70 mark... Hey, after all that is why i bought a m35x...seriously... Good luck, and take good care of the new engine:)

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Sigh of relief for you I am sure. You must of been cool, calm and collected as when I call I get no where with them even under warranty, ie my rims have the finish peeling off and they refuse to cover it. Anyway, I read on anther post that the new engine comes with a 12mo/12kmi warranty but I would consider buying an extended warranty on this car till Infiniti recalls the engine for the internal failures. The great part of having the new engine is take real good care of it and it should in theory last a long time, I am going to install the catch can on my car as I need to keep it for five years and I do 20kmi a year. Enjoy.

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dvan
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I thought about this as well, but you cant buy a warranty extension for the engine only which sucks. its almost not worth it for the miles he has, would be like 2500 bucks for only 24k miles with 12k of those miles already under warranty anyways.

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they actually gave me a case number and said a regional sales rep will investigate it.....i mean they know the vk motors have problems so as long as you have oil changes on time they should take care of it even if its out of warrenty.

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Remember to read the owners manual where it is pointed out that for maximum engine life oil should be changed every 90 days!

Of course a smart engineer/owner would also measure oil everytime fuel is added just to be sure nothing is leaking!

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I know I'm late and I haven't been on the forums for a couple weeks, but I just had my engine done in December, so I was feeling for you as I was reading this post tonight. To hear that Infiniti stepped up to the plate for you is EXTRAORDINARY! When I had my issue, I had just bought the car 4 months earlier and I had to go through a hassle with the dealership saying they weren't sure that Infiniti was going to cover it, but they finally did. At the time, I only had 53,500+ on the car, so I didn't understand why I was being put through that.

I have been extremely nervous about my car ever since. To hear about how they handled your case gives me some hope. I had done some serious thinking about selling the car and decided to keep it. I HAVE had the blue smoke TWICE since getting the new engine, and have had two different dealerships check it out for me on both occasions and they have had no additional info. I'm at about 60-61k now.

Keep watch over your oil and make sure that you get it changed on time. I have been taking mine strictly to the dealership so they can't give me any crap if it happens again. I keep my copy of the records and they have theirs in the system. After reading your post, I think I'm going to give them a call and inform them that my issues have not totally disappeared so that they will have me on record there too. Maybe we should all inundate them with calls and complaints to get the process moving faster...

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Jazzy, you're only at 61K now? Im winning the race to 100K! LOL (76K now)

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I'm coming!

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timgbuggy04, any updates on this?

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THE REP FROM INFINITI CALLED ME AND SAID I REPORTED A KNOCKING NOISE COMING FROM THE ENGINE BAY WHEN I HAD 21,000 MILES....THEREFORE SINCE I REPORTED THE ISSUE WHILE IT WAS UNDER WARRENTY (EVEN IF IS OUT OF WARRANTY NOW) THE ISSUE IS GOING TO BE COVERED. i SUGGEST EVEYONE WITH A VK MOTOR TAKE THEIR CAR TO DEALERSHIP AND JUST STATE THEY HAVE KNOCKING NOISE COMING FROM MOTOR. eVEN IF YOU DONT AND CASE IT DOES START KNOCKING LATER YOU WILL STILL BE COVERED.

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1scott
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This would of cost you around 10 grand or more to fix...I hope that the new Ms dont suffer from these problems because other than this and a few minor rattles my car has...it is one of the best driving cars on the market in its price grade...good news.

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dvan wrote:Tim,

Im SO sorry to hear about this! Does the sound sound anything like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDQeCOJZcDM

My problem apparently wast due to oil loss. The root cause was never found for the broken piston. I was almost in your situation, I managed to drag my car into the dealer with that noise going on right around 68,500 miles on the odometer. Luckly, the engine replacement was covered under warrenty. Good thing, because it cost well over $10,000 to replace....EEKK
well, mine just developed this issue this past weekend. started it up after sitting for a week and heard this. called and dropping it off on Thursday and the tech tried to blow it off as oil just settled to the bottom and the car needs to warm up :rolleyes: anyways, luckily still under warranty with the car

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wizard8873 wrote:well, mine just developed this issue this past weekend. started it up after sitting for a week and heard this. called and dropping it off on Thursday and the tech tried to blow it off as oil just settled to the bottom and the car needs to warm up :rolleyes: anyways, luckily still under warranty with the car
Dropped off at the dealership and got a call back today telling me that the oil is low. they let it stand for 2 minutes before the noise went away and said it's normal. sory but in my opinion that is far from normal

They seemed to have a problem with me going to two other dealers in the area and were hesitant to even work on the car even though the car is under warranty. really hating nissan dealers right now. Only found two that are helpful, though far away too ~50 miles one way. oh well, hoping that this is the only time i have a hassle with them :tisk: . now to dig up all the records i can find from oil purchases and server

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From what I know it is normal to have that ticking/knocking sound if the car sits for a long time. Dont remember exactly what the reasoning behind it is.

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Scarey thread. My M has been sitting in my garage for a little over a week and I haven't started it since. I better turn her on after work.

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Is it something related to the M45 engine only? i mean did anyone experience the same problem with M35?

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dvan wrote:From what I know it is normal to have that ticking/knocking sound if the car sits for a long time. Dont remember exactly what the reasoning behind it is.
ticking in normal but this was hard knocking like i quoted in the first reply.

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jhuerto23 wrote:Scarey thread. My M has been sitting in my garage for a little over a week and I haven't started it since. I better turn her on after work.
mine sat in the garage for a month when i was out of town and never had this issue then. just randomly start =/
Arsenal_fan wrote:Is it something related to the M45 engine only? i mean did anyone experience the same problem with M35?
believe it's only M45 right now and only the early models. go figure, i have one of the few first built probably.

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wizard8873 wrote:Dropped off at the dealership and got a call back today telling me that the oil is low. they let it stand for 2 minutes before the noise went away and said it's normal. sory but in my opinion that is far from normal

They seemed to have a problem with me going to two other dealers in the area and were hesitant to even work on the car even though the car is under warranty. really hating nissan dealers right now. Only found two that are helpful, though far away too ~50 miles one way. oh well, hoping that this is the only time i have a hassle with them :tisk: . now to dig up all the records i can find from oil purchases and server
It depends on the way you view it - Yes, the ticking noise isn't normal. But, it is normal when the engine is not properly lubricated either because of low oil amount or pressure. This time they found that the ticking noise occurred because of the low amount of oil in the engine. But what about preventing it from occurring again?

Consider asking them to verify that the oil pressure is at a correct level. If the pressure is too low, then certain engine sections won't receive a necessary amount of engine oil and will cause the ticking noise to appear again in the future. You should request that the Dealership's Service Department test the oil pressure, inspect the oil pump (which provides the needed pressure) for defects, and inspect all valves for looseness and exhaust manifolds for leaks.

And you said that you are going to a Nissan Dealership? When it comes to investigating any issues that relate the engine or oil, it's best to bring your Infiniti to an Infiniti Dealership's Service Department. Although they are trained on a similar level, the technicians at Infiniti Dealerships are more familiar with the issues and solutions specific to Infiniti vehicles. You may want to try bringing your vehicle to them instead. :)
thanks. Doing oil consumption test right now and when I bring it in, I'll let them know. Took it to Infiniti dealership but call them Nissan ones because all of them are really Nissan Dealerships. Seems like a lot of people have the issue and are tossed aside and it hurts others in the process. Really like that BMW finally put out a recall after the enthusiasts complained enough about the HPFP.

http://jalopnik.com/5673591/how-fans-fo ... -fuel-pump

http://jalopnik.com/5673678/bmw-recalli ... fuel-pumps


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