PLaystation 3 vs. Xbox 360, how do you feel?

[R240sx]

wow the 360 sold pretty well. as did the ps3, but im sure this month with the release of wii fit should put nintendo back at the helm.

[R240sx]

I like my 360 because of XBox live. And the fact that the console held its value for almost two years.(unlike PS3-price drop less than a year)

So far PS3's real loyal fan base bought the system for $599 with no Game10 months later, there was a limited time price reduction that turned out to be a sham...next thing you know the price drop is official. And to make things worst they come out with the motorstorm bundle which had an upgraded PS3 with 80gig hard drive for $499 if I bought the console for $599 I would have been pissed, luckily for me my 360 was keeping me occupied...thanks MS...oh and PS3 peoples, you will have to rebuy your 49.99 controller when the dual shock3 comes out with rumble...

when a console holds "value" its not necessarily a good thing, because what it means is that either a. console company has not tried to optimize is manufacturing process, or b. they have optimized and are not handing that savings to its cunsumers.

the reality of the situation was the ps3 was not planned to launch in 2006, it was planned to launch in mid 07, you would have seen a $400-$500 dollar console but microsoft really put the pressure to make sony release early. if you look up the months of when the wii and ps3 started production, wii went into mass production in july/august of 06, and ps3 went into mass production in late september/october. ps3 had so many issue's 1 being its blue ray diodes were having manufactuing issues and the cell processor wasnt ready. ps3 launched in the US with a mere 200,000 consoles. it was very rushed and very expensive, the price your seing now is what it should have been at its planned 07 launch.

[bmike818]

when a console holds "value" its not necessarily a good thing, because what it means is that either a. console company has not tried to optimize is manufacturing process, or b. they have optimized and are not handing that savings to its cunsumers.

whats the point of releasing a game system early if there is no games, so please I don't get your point...

if I paid $399 for a console....everybody else should pay $399 as well

you saying a console holding its value is not a good thing is like saying your car holding it's value is a bad thing- i don't think so

[R240sx]

whats the point of releasing a game system early if there is no games, so please I don't get your point...

if I paid $399 for a console....everybody else should pay $399 as well

you saying a console holding its value is not a good thing is like saying your car holding it's value is a bad thing- i don't think so

it is a bad thing, historically if you look at most consoles the've attained over 70% of there sales after the $200 mark. look at the ps2, xbox, gamecube total console sales, and then look at how many were purchased at sub $200. a good example is the ps2 is slated to have outsold what it sold last year as the price is cheaper and it has even more great titles coming out. so to tie my point together, the faster it can get to a cheaper price, the more console's it will sell, leading to more developer support, leading to more games that push the consoles abilities and leaving other consoles with sloppy ports, and giving the prime console most exclusive.

[s13jus10]

nicely put.

also if you think about it, nobody has to buy a console right when it comes out. everyone should expect an eventual price drop whatever the system, regardless. but the people that choose to buy a system right when it comes out are pretty much the hardcore fans, and thus, wouldn't mind if the price drops (which they most likely know that it will) in the future, just because they have the bragging rights of "I had it first."

[alms24sebring]

...playstation all day

[MinisterofDOOM]

you saying a console holding its value is not a good thing is like saying your car holding it's value is a bad thing- i don't think so

I don't see the connection at all.

You don't stand to benefit if your console holds it's value unless you're a collector. And in that case, you'll see the value come back up again later on as it becomes "classic" anyway.There's not a very big market for used consoles, especially not in the private party sector. Yeah, some stores like Gamestop have given a bit of juice to used console sales, but for the most part, the only used consoles you'll see on the market are very old classics.If you're not reselling, you have nothing to loose when the console looses value. In fact, you stand to BENEFIT, since you're getting the product for less.

Cars are an entirely different animal. Most of the time, people will not own a car for its entire lifespan. They will want to sell it and get something else. So the car holding value is a huge bonus. Markets and values for game consoles and cars couldn't be any less similar.

but the people that choose to buy a system right when it comes out are pretty much the hardcore fans, and thus, wouldn't mind if the price drops (which they most likely know that it will) in the future, just because they have the bragging rights of "I had it first."

I was able to get a Wii pretty early on, but I didn't do it for bragging rights or because I'm a hardcore Nintendo fan. I did it so I could play the games then rather than now.The bragging rights theory is probably true for a lot of gamers (especially the Xbox's hellspawn Halophites) but I don't think it is for the majority. Most gamers buy games for their own enjoyment, not to make other people think they're cool.

[redtop91]

The bragging rights theory is probably true for a lot of gamers (especially the Xbox's hellspawn Halophites) but I don't think it is for the majority. Most gamers buy games for their own enjoyment, not to make other people think they're cool.

Hate to nitpick, but if anything people who are fans of Halo solely and not the console would have no reason to pick it up at launch. People who buy consoles at launch are loyal console subscribers. Not fans of a particular game as much as Halo does rule

[xekushnr]

Did anyone see the VGAs? Best game of the year nominees: The Orange Box (both consoles), Mass Effect (360), Bioshock (360), Halo 3 (360). Winner goes to Bioshock. But next year will be better, right?

[MinisterofDOOM]

I expected the VGAs to be absolutely terrible and they were even worse than I feared.

Terrible, horrible, bad. The embodiment of EVERYTHING that is wrong with the gaming world today. A whole bunch of #$%&ing idiots making fools of themselves and getting applauded for it.

Bioshock getting game of the year is ridiculous. Aside from Halo 3, it was the worst game out of all the nominees.

And Harmonix as developer of the year? Are you kidding? For WHAT?Valve deserves about 2937 dev of the year awards. Self-publishing, circumventing the most parasitic, game-destroying steps of game creation, offering publishing to upstart developers, love their fans...

Harmonix may have made some great games, but they haven't done anything spectacular from a pure developer standpoint.

All the celebrities they had were idiots. Kid rock needs to die.I do give them some credit for getting Tommy Tallarico though.

[OldmanPurdy]

Mario Galaxy should have been in the running for goty but i'm not suprised its not there, People who play games without cursing and violence aren't cool anymore

[xekushnr]

I expected the VGAs to be absolutely terrible and they were even worse than I feared.

Terrible, horrible, bad. The embodiment of EVERYTHING that is wrong with the gaming world today. A whole bunch of #$%&ing idiots making fools of themselves and getting applauded for it.

Bioshock getting game of the year is ridiculous. Aside from Halo 3, it was the worst game out of all the nominees.

And Harmonix as developer of the year? Are you kidding? For WHAT?Valve deserves about 2937 dev of the year awards. Self-publishing, circumventing the most parasitic, game-destroying steps of game creation, offering publishing to upstart developers, love their fans...

Harmonix may have made some great games, but they haven't done anything spectacular from a pure developer standpoint.

All the celebrities they had were idiots. Kid rock needs to die.

I would have to agree with most of your points. There was not enough focus on the games. I remember hearing during the show that the ONLY category picked by the viewers was the most addicting game.

I was pretty shocked to see Harmonix as the DotY as well. No Valve? Ubisoft? Bioware? Infinity Ward for having the brass ****ing balls to RECREATE the most popular war game series, and make it one of the best games of the year?

I liked the guy from The Sarah Silverman Program. Everyone else sucked. Ralphie May was kind of funny too. I didnt watch Kid Rock, I changed channels. Same for the Foo Fighters, but I'm sure they were better than Kid Rock.

I do give them some credit for getting Tommy Tallarico though.

It's too bad he wasnt actually playing anything though. His track was recorded, and it was painfully obvious every time the camera panned in on him. I remember in one part he was not playing anything and there were two VERY audible open E notes.

[Morph]

PS3 is on target with 360 first year sales so cant be that bad.