Pioneer projection HUD - anyone use anything like this?

[bejjutsu]

Hey all,

I've been really interested in Pioneer's laser-projected HUD since I heard about it a few months ago. ( http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/9/301062 ... ke-robocop

Does anyone use anything like this already? I know there are plenty of HUDs with mph and direction, but one that projects google maps from iPhone/ipad would be amazing. Of course, it would probably require a special windshield.

Thoughts?

[DeanM45]

Have HUD on all my cars, just speed, rpm, coolnat temp and bat voltage. Uses the diagnostic port for power and info.



Had a GTP as well and added the factory HUD and Navigation to it. I used the stock windscreen, not the "HUD" windscreen with no issues. What was nice about the Ponti was that it integrated the radio and navigation to the HUD (in addition to speed/turn signals/warning lights). The box was BIG though (you can adjust the angle of the mirror on the Ponti so that the image on the windshield is higher or lower). Electronically it would be fairly easy to integrate into the M but the mounting would be a nightmare if not impossible.

I mounted my current one on the M off to the side because the dash "pod" is in the way and I did not want to cut into anything. I use it regularly, in fact, I rarely look down at the speedo on any of the cars. I did put some very light tint on the windscreen to help with viewing during bright outdoor times but for the most part it the tint was not needed.

[Arlo]

Dean M45 can you tell me more about your HUD? where did you get it? A walk through please!
It looks amazing!

[sergio1987]

Seems real nice...

[DeanM45]

Got it from Amazon. Made by ADD -- just search for: Head up Display Speedometer HUD Mph OBD Rpm/speed/water Temp/volt (that's the description). About $140.

Here you can see the projector and the 10% metal tint that I used (pic is from the paddle shifter instal):


It comes with some tint pieces but they were too big for my liking and too dark so I just picked up a small roll of tint.

Easy to install.

[bejjutsu]

@Dean: Very cool. It could be a really helpful thing to have. A split second of looking at the speedo can sometimes have consequences....

Is this the same one you have? http://www.amazon.com/Speed-Cluster-Dis ... ds=car+hud ..it's going for 89, though there are other sellers listing it for 140. Maybe there is a small difference in the interface?

Also, do you think you could hide cabling from the unit to make it look like a stock feature on the car? I live in an area where break-ins have been known to occur during the day. Damn bums..

[DeanM45]

@Dean: Very cool. It could be a really helpful thing to have. A split second of looking at the speedo can sometimes have consequences....

Is this the same one you have? http://www.amazon.com/Speed-Cluster-Dis ... ds=car+hud ..it's going for 89, though there are other sellers listing it for 140. Maybe there is a small difference in the interface?

Also, do you think you could hide cabling from the unit to make it look like a stock feature on the car? I live in an area where break-ins have been known to occur during the day. Damn bums..

Nope, not the same. That one does not interface via the diagnostic port---has to be hard wired in--MUCH more difficult and can cause problems with the BCM. The cable plugs into the diag port, then to the switch (the part near the A pillar) and then to the cable for the projector. If you are really good soldering you could extend the harness from the projector and then mount the switch elsewhere. There is no where to tuck the switch in to hide it with the short harness that it comes with.

[bejjutsu]

Cool cool, thanks for the input! Still, a pretty nice upgrade for $140!

[cruzad3r]

nice but somewhat cluttering up the design beside why do you need two Speedo?

[EniGmA1987]

I think it is nice so you can keep your eyes more on the road and better see when to get that perfect shift timing

[cruzad3r]

come on man

[DeanM45]

nice but somewhat cluttering up the design beside why do you need two Speedo?

I hear ya....but the purpose of the HUD is so that the information is in your normal field of vision instead of having to look down at the speedo. Much like electric windows, electric door locks, heated seats, auto climate control, cruise control, etc......you won't miss it until you've had it.

[EniGmA1987]

I just got the HUD in today cause I was pretty curious about it. I have to say though I am pretty dissapointed in the thing. While it looks fine enough, the processing time is terrible. It is like the device only polls for info once every second or two. I have seen the car's information output on a laptop while running the UpRev Osiris software and its information is 100% exact in real time. Why cant a HUD like this display realtime info too? Or is it just that this one is so cheap it doesnt display accurate info and you have to move to a $500+ model or something to get that realtime stuff?

[DeanM45]

I just got the HUD in today cause I was pretty curious about it. I have to say though I am pretty dissapointed in the thing. While it looks find enough, the processing time is terrible. It is like the device only polls for info once every second or two. I have seen the car's information output on a laptop while running the UpRev Osiris software and its information is 100% exact in real time. Why cant a HUD like this display realtime info too? Or is it just that this one is so cheap it doesnt display accurate info and you have to move to a $500+ model or something to get that realtime stuff?

Sounds like it is defective. Mine updates very fast, maybe 1/4 second intervals.

[EniGmA1987]

hmm. Well that sucks. Anyway, I am looking into creating my own now anyway that will be able to update much more quickly and display all sorts of info.

Anyone know off the top of their head which protocol our OBD system uses?

[DeanM45]

Not sure on the format but it should be standard for all OBDII systems. Hell, it should be fairly easy to do using Osiris and an inverted monitor/display attached to the laptop's monitor output. Once proven then everything would just have to be shrunken down using a PIC and writing the firmware (yes, I play with programming and electronics).

I thnk I still have one of the Ponti HUD units -- if I can find it I'll make a plug, plug it into the M and see what happens. If it works (which I think it would) we'll be out of the starting gate.

[bejjutsu]

Check out the BMW and Cadillac systems before you go and make one.

[EniGmA1987]

Check out the BMW and Cadillac systems before you go and make one.

Already did, too big to install in our cars. This inspired me to do my own:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYJyUTORLv0

[bejjutsu]

Already did, too big to install in our cars. This inspired me to do my own:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYJyUTORLv0

Awesome! Good luck and post updates when you can!