Pics of the swap progress

[nissanrcer240]

This is my boys car, its in the process of getting an sr20 installed, it's just about done....but we're experiencing a few problems, heres what we have so far We didnt have a place to do it so its being done in my friends driveway....not the best of places, but we managed one more of the body, with the new blue pearl paint job(looks alot better in person), its dirty right now, afterwards its going to get a full detailing Heres the motor Another motor shot The old KA The clip, which was bought at Noyans in Mannasas, VA for $2800

We were so ready to get this car on the road today, we had everything in place and wired, went to crank it up and it just kept cranking and cranking. I have the sr20 installed in my car already, MA motorsports did the swap, so we had a running sr20 to look at which helped us out alot, we basically checked all the possible problems(that we could think of) using my car.

We're just not getting any fire.We took the ignitor chip off his sr and put it on my sr and the ignitor works fine, same thing with the coil packs, also the ecu. So the ecu, the ignitor chip and the coil packs are all good. We used a volt meter to check the input and output to the ignitor and theres no power getting to it(Do you have to crank the car to get a reading from the input to ignitor, b/c I dont think we did now that I think about it). As far as we can tell everything in the car is wired right, we looked at the harness in my car to make sure and everything is pretty much identical and my motor runs fine. So anyone have any idea as to what could be the reason why theres no power going to the ignitor?

[S14Life]

Might be a fuel problem..

[Def]

Remove the plugs to see if they're sparking. That'll eliminate the ignition and wiring to that real quick.

Then you can check the fuel out and go from there.

Just eliminate one variable at a time. Usually a quick glance can't catch non-obvious problems. So just make sure each component ACTUALLY works instead of trying to compare wiring. It would take you forever to find a wiring problem without actually identifying what component isn't working and going from there.

[chickentendah]

your motor looks nice and shiny

=D

[nissanrcer240]

Remove the plugs to see if they're sparking. That'll eliminate the ignition and wiring to that real quick.

Then you can check the fuel out and go from there.

Just eliminate one variable at a time. Usually a quick glance can't catch non-obvious problems. So just make sure each component ACTUALLY works instead of trying to compare wiring. It would take you forever to find a wiring problem without actually identifying what component isn't working and going from there.

Yeah we took the plug out but left them in the coil packs then while the car was being cranked touched it to the valve cover and theres no sparks at all, the spark plugs had a little rust on them but they looked good. Does it sound like it could be the spark plugs?

Theres fuel coming from the fuel pump b/c we can hear the fuel pump coming on, also we took the hose that comes off the fuel filter and goes to the intake manifold and fuel came pouring out so theres fuel going to the injectors. Is it possible that the injectors might be a reason for not getting any fuel?

[kota2240]

Set your timing, thats the problem

go here http://www.store.yahoo.com/pha....html I did this and the car started right up once i finished setting the timing. I had spark and fuel but the timimng needed to be set.

[kota2240]

nissanrcer where in central VA are you, right now im having problems with the oil pump

[nissanrcer240]

Im in Culpeper VA, about an hour or so from Fairfax.

Would the timing be the reason why we're not getting any spark? Shouldnt we be getting a reading with a test light when we hold it to the input wire to the ignitor chip? B/c we're getting nothing from the input wire, like theres no power going to the ignitor chip?

[UsedToOwn240SX]

Everything plugged in? zWiring harness done right? Could the CAS be bad? I'm just throwing out possibilities.

[nissanrcer240]

Everything plugged in? zWiring harness done right? Could the CAS be bad? I'm just throwing out possibilities.

Would the CAS being bad be a reason why we're getting no spark?

Quote »Shouldnt we be getting a reading with a test light when we hold it to the input wire to the ignitor chip? B/c we're getting nothing from the input wire, like theres no power going to the ignitor chip?[/quote]

I appreciate all the help so far, but does anyone know the answer to this question /\ ?

[TruboostPerformance]

did you make sure you have power going to the coil packs? if you have and not spark thats a good place to start, also power to your ignitor chip? Double chck all your power points theres only a few so that way you can narrow it down...

[nissanrcer240]

We're not getting any power to the coil packs, we need power to the ignitor to get power to the coil packs right? We're not getting any power to the ignitor chip(Im pretty sure thats what it is), why would there be no power going to the ignitor? Something on the ecu wired wrong, is that the power source for the ignitor? We used the diagram on Heavythrottle to wire it though, Im almost positive that its right?

[kota2240]

Take the ecu, ignitor,coil pack from your firends car and see what happends but make sure you set the timing first from phase2 standards

Make sure you have the right ECUE5 is from a 94-96 180sx black top 5 speed E6 is from a 94-96 180sx blacktop automatic WC is from a 94-98 S14 Silvia 62 is from a 91-93 180sx or S13 Silvia 5 speed 61,63 is from a 91-93 180sx or S13 Silvia automatic J4 is from a 97-98 180sx Type X 5speedE5 and 62 are the same

[nissanrcer240]

I know that the ecu, ignitor, and all the coil packs are good b/c we took all of those parts off my car, and put them on the non running sr20 and it still wouldnt start, we did this one part at a time. Then we took the parts off his non running sr20 and put them on mine and my engine started right up so I know all of those parts are good on the motor.

[USDM_OneVia]

Do you have the Blue/Red wire on the main harness jumped over? You have to take it from the big plug and kinda jump it to the smaller plug. Check out the wiring diagram on heavythrottle.com to see what I mean. I believe that wire drives your coilpacks. HTH

Joe

[nissanrcer240]

Do you have the Blue/Red wire on the main harness jumped over? You have to take it from the big plug and kinda jump it to the smaller plug. Check out the wiring diagram on heavythrottle.com to see what I mean. I believe that wire drives your coilpacks. HTH

Joe

I check that next....If the timings not set right would that cause us to not get any spark?

[nissanrcer240]

We got it started, but it runs like crap, and it wont stay running for more than a few seconds at a time. More frustrating than ever! Hopefully its the timing, thats next on the list first thing in the morning

[nissanrcer240]

OK, everything is done, we're getting fuel, we're getting spark, the timing is set exactly the way phase2 says to set it. This damm car will not turn over for hell. What else could it possibly be? Please, any help at all or any idea would be greatly appreciated. Its been like almost 2 weeks of constantly working on this swap and we're stuck, and frustrated. Anyone have any ideas at all, I mean we've checked everything, what else could be wrong besides the motor just being screwed(hope to god not)? Just throw out any ideas of anything that we could check if you have any, any help at all would be useful

[UsedToOwn240SX]

Damn man, if you got fuel, spark and right timing, it should start. I knew you have checked the timing, but, from your description, it sounds like still timing issue. I did my timing when the motor is out so it's easier to see the two silver marks & a golden/off-color one. Is there any possibility you missed those marks? They are kind of hard to see I suppose. I had to dot those marks with correction fluid to make them easier to see. Just a thought.

[nissanrcer240]

We've taken the valve cover off like 20 times to check over the timing, 3 of our friends, who are all mechanics, look at the schematics and look at the timing and they said it looks right. This is so frustrating, I guess we need to just go back through everything that was done step by step, we had to of missed something or not wired something right I guess...Maybe this motor is just bad, I mean we have a start up warranty on it but that means we have to do all this crap over again:(

[nissan_s14]

Dont know if you checked this already...but there is a ground for your coilpacks in the back...grounds to the engine.

Make sure your ECU is tightened down all the way...can do some funny stuff if not.

[RobDET]

Sanity check... Did you change around all the wires in the battery tray area?

[nissanrcer240]

Yeah thats been done, before there wasnt any spark until the wires by the battery were changed around. Now theres spark but it wont turn over

[VitaminT]

Will it not start/fire or will it not turn over at all?

[240dreams]

maf? clean it.

[RobDET]

Go over the battery trey wires to be sure that ALL of the colors match on both sides of the plugs. There are several you have to re-arrange.

take the plugs out and tturn the motor over to be sure you are indeed getting fuel. There should be small white puffs that come out of the spark plug holes. They will shoot up about 12 inches abov the valve cover.

Also check the wiring on your igniter.

Oah and be sure you have the SR ECU in the car. The KA Ecu will give you spark but only on cyl #1. Be sure you are getting spark on all 4.