Pics of my custom intake manifold

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silvia_ca18det
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hey guys just got my intake manifold started and **** so here are some pics, thought u guys might like this everything was done by me and my buddy thank god for us being apprentice welders :D

enjoy



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Looks good. Using trumpets on the runners at all?

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negative, did an atogonise weld on the inside then ground out with die grinder to give a rough finish....here is a pic


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I bet you could weld a elephants as$ onto a donkey and noone would notice.

Good job, mucho props, super clean welds!!!

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2BN_S13 wrote:I bet you could weld a elephants as$ onto a donkey and noone would notice.

Good job, mucho props, super clean welds!!!
HAHAHA thanks man, let me tell you tig is one hell of a sweet thing to be good at! takes a while to learn how to weld the thin ****!

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thats badass man, props on tthe work....wanna make me one? lol

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oversteer180 wrote:thats badass man, props on tthe work....wanna make me one? lol
if you take a look at this site u will notice that me and my friend are starting up a fabricating/welding shop and are making a bunch of S-chassis products

i JUST started prototypes for stuff so it will be about a mont untill stuf is reayd to go but for now take a look

http://www.n-e-c-c.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=32

there are a few portfolio pics and a few CAD drawing and some prototypes!

i got big plans, just need to get it under way! and to answer your question YES i can make u one! my price is TBA on that website!

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that'd be sweet man...just don't *** rape on prices!lol

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oversteer180 wrote:that'd be sweet man...just don't *** rape on prices!lol
if you read our mission statment it says "we are aiming to provide quality work at a fair price" so *** raping will not be happening

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i'm not trying to knock you or anything, i'm just genuinely curious. do you know what you're doing? are you engineering this manfiold or are you just welding pieces of metal together to make a new manfiold? I know that sounds really harsh, and I don't mean for it to be, but building an intake manifold never really seemed like a D.I.Y. kinda job. I always thought that manipulating, evening and maximizing flow took a lot of time and money and were very critical for an intake manfiold which is why i thought they were so difficult to come by in the aftermarket world

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f s t caz wrote:i'm not trying to knock you or anything, i'm just genuinely curious. do you know what you're doing? are you engineering this manfiold or are you just welding pieces of metal together to make a new manfiold? I know that sounds really harsh, and I don't mean for it to be, but building an intake manifold never really seemed like a D.I.Y. kinda job. I always thought that manipulating, evening and maximizing flow took a lot of time and money and were very critical for an intake manfiold which is why i thought they were so difficult to come by in the aftermarket world
i read a bunch of books on manifolds and etc, i didnt go cutting pieces and welding together, i will be flow benching this aswell so its not like i am just going to throw the bad boy on!

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thats good to know. Good luck with it. Hope it turns out well.

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f s t caz wrote:thats good to know. Good luck with it. Hope it turns out well.
thanks man! i hope it goes well too!

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looks familar its not like there are many out there that look like mine :D.

pity about the poor flow to the rear cylinder in that design.

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i am sure it will be better than the shoebax we have stock, not as good as your flow tested design, but still good.

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ISL33P wrote:looks familar its not like there are many out there that look like mine :D.

pity about the poor flow to the rear cylinder in that design.
i very much like your design, i looked at alot of custom intakes and just based around that, you dont think the rear cyl will get enough air? hummm....well when i flow bench it i shall sure see wont i

if you feel like giving me some tips sincz u have made lots of them i would more then gladley take them in ( but i understand if u dont want to cuz u sell urs)

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i can guarantee that i will not flow that well and i am happy to tell you why. i can also nealry gauarantee other designs you have seen have never been tested on a eng or never been near a flow bench.

two reasons1. lack of bellmouths. depsite what everyone says they are good and one of several ways to tune a plenum2. lack of tapering towards rear cylinder. causing an area at the rear of the plenum with a lot of turbulence and lack of flow to cyl 4.

happy to help :D

PS thanks for the free plug, a copy is a compliment.

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ISL33P wrote:i can guarantee that i will not flow that well and i am happy to tell you why. i can also nealry gauarantee other designs you have seen have never been tested on a eng or never been near a flow bench.

two reasons1. lack of bellmouths. depsite what everyone says they are good and one of several ways to tune a plenum2. lack of tapering towards rear cylinder. causing an area at the rear of the plenum with a lot of turbulence and lack of flow to cyl 4.

happy to help :D.
so what your saying is i need to make it taper more towards the back and get rid of that 90* jog and make an angle out of it instead? bell mouths will help forsure, and i may make another intake, we shall see how it goes though thanks for your help!PS thanks for the free plug, a copy is a compliment

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what he's saying is that you should just buy one of his

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i cant tell you all my secrects but there is a lot more to it.

why not buy one of mine, by the time you pay for materials welding and flow test it and then find out it is no good and have to start again i could have shipped you and you would have saved money :D

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ISL33P wrote:i cant tell you all my secrects but there is a lot more to it.

why not buy one of mine, by the time you pay for materials welding and flow test it and then find out it is no good and have to start again i could have shipped you and you would have saved money :D
i get all my material for free from my work.....aswell i am the welder of these manifolds! i have not lost any money on this except for a stock intake!

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dotn study ISL33P - he's jsut a good salesman of his product, keep trucking away, there are quite a few good books (maximum boost etc) and online discussiosn and sites about making a good manifolds and flow and thermodynamics etc.. and you can get the trumpets/velocity stacks from jenvey.co.uk and all over the place, jsut look around.

just rememerb the stock manifold had NOTHING to help out with distributing the airflow to each cylinder, so anything you do to help, will only makie it better

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CA19DET wrote:just rememerb the stock manifold had NOTHING to help out with distributing the airflow to each cylinder, so anything you do to help, will only makie it better
this may not be necessarily true if you make a plenum that does not distribute air better than the stock one. dont foget that cyl's 1-3 flow with 2 cfm of each other and 4 was the one that let the rest down flow approx 10% less than the others, leaving you with a rich micture in cyl 4 and a slightly lean (and i mean nothing major what so ever) cyl's 1-3.

the main reason for the majority of lean outs are caused by old or poor flowing injectors, when compared to each other, and poor design standard fuel rail leaving a lack of flow cyl's 3-4.

the other thing, which you guys are starting to catch onto, is stand alone computers, these are by far the way to go. forget about retuning the std one. i have seen videos of std computers retuned by some of the big names when it comes to ca's and the ability to get a consistent tune across the rev range is quite poor when compred to what a stand alone computer can do.

if you like i can get cheap microtechs if you like. just visit http://www.microtechefi.com, tell me the one you want and i will get it. they do have a plug in for the ca18, or you can wire one in your self, not hard at all.

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how cheap is cheap? if you don't want to discuss it on the board then shoot me an e-mail at [email protected] if you would. thanks :-)

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CA19DET wrote:dotn study ISL33P - he's jsut a good salesman of his product, keep trucking away, there are quite a few good books (maximum boost etc) and online discussiosn and sites about making a good manifolds and flow and thermodynamics etc.. and you can get the trumpets/velocity stacks from jenvey.co.uk and all over the place, jsut look around.

just rememerb the stock manifold had NOTHING to help out with distributing the airflow to each cylinder, so anything you do to help, will only makie it better
haah thnaks for the faith man.....i have looked at alot of stuff and read lots of stuff so basiclly its trial and error now! i have lots of stuff at my work to check the CFM of each runner aswell, its not a flow bench but it will give me a rough idea as to wut is happening with the air.

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good on you for having a go, you will only learn from it.

$1175 + delivery, $1320 retail + delivery for Microtech LT8S.


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