pic request. Emrald blue (girlfriends land lord is trying to screw us)

[motoman399]

hey so my girlfriends fence blew down and hit her emerald blue zenki. it dented the bumper and broke the tail light. the said they will pay for the tail light but say the bumper isnt part of the damage and it was from a car. and i know that the damage wasnt there before. oh and i have about 3 million pics of every other panel on the car lol. FML

here are some pics





and after i did some paint on it just to show it off



so can someone help me out that has one the same color and post some pics of their panels that arent dented/scratched? thanks guys

[scotty-2-forty]

Dude, find a piece of the fence and line it up with the bumper ... sure looks like the right size (re: the scrape, not the cracks). Be careful on your request though! Good luck with it all.

[breaker77]

you are breaking the law with this request.

i think the term fraud comes to mind.

[scotty-2-forty]

you are breaking the law with this request.

i think the term fraud comes to mind.

... I didn't want to say it ...
Modified by scotty-2-forty at 12:57 PM 3/15/2010

[motoman399]

you are breaking the law with this request.

i think the term fraud comes to mind.

thanks for the help.... umm i kinda understand that but the fact is that is wasnt like that before and i dont have pics to prove it. i understand its not "right" what im doing. but its not "right" what they are doing either. and everyone knows that 2 wrongs make a right... right?? lol

Dude, find a piece of the fence and line it up with the bumper ... sure looks like the right size (re: the scrape, not the cracks). Be careful on your request though! Good luck with it all.

ya i would except she lives 7 hours from me and i wasnt there. but her and another tenant picked the fence off of the car.

like i said the land lord knows that the fence fell on it, just thinks it didnt do the damage to the bumper.

[scotty-2-forty]

... like i said the land lord knows that the fence fell on it, just thinks it didnt do the damage to the bumper.

That's why they should line up a piece of the fence that fell on it and match it up; take a picture with it next to it just like in the one shown here. Could be profound evidence at that.

[motoman399]

good point. ill see what i can do from 400 miles away. lol

[Crazyirish]

Unless we're talking gail force winds I can understand why your landlord is skeptical. I don't see how the fence could "fall" and make such a mark. Now if a 4x4 that was painted white was thrown or swung into the bumper, I would buy it. Good Luck, but insurance fraud is a bad idea.

[motoman399]

well i know when the wind pics up in portland Or it can do some damage. i dont know the speed of the wind that day but my girlfriend said it was crazy. and when the wind is pushing up against a friggin fence that is poorly mounted its gonna come down in a hurry. and those bumpers arent by any means bullet proof. so i can easily see it happening. and it may have been a 4x4 im not sure.

[ZX88]

this is illegal. you should know that.

[hbpignosePA]

definitely post this on a public forum

[DMan II-40]

Yeah those look like pressure cracks, I can't see a fence doing that. I'm with the land lord on this one.

[motoman399]

Yeah those look like pressure cracks, I can't see a fence doing that. I'm with the land lord on this one.

good thing i didnt post this thread asking for opinions or options. please dont tell me what you think happened to the car. i KNOW what happened to the car. i would not try to cheat anyone out of something that isnt their fault. i dont work like that.

so please no more opinions on what YOU think happened. i just need one picture. and might not even need it. but it could help. so please help me as i have helped many of you. thanks

[s14ben]

shouldnt the fence owner be in the position of proving his fence didnt cause the damage? if it can bust a tail light it can tear up some paint. wind is pretty powerful when it's pushing on a 6'x8' panel of fence with post attached.

edit: you will have zero credibility if this thread or your fake pics somehow get into the argument. get a professional opinion from a bodyshop or something about how the damage happened.

[Nesquick]

IF the land lord is going to go thru insurance on this incident, why wouldnt he say the bumper damage is from the fence as well. its not going to cost him any more or any less....

[scotty-2-forty]

good thing i didnt post this thread asking for opinions or options. please dont tell me what you think happened to the car. i KNOW what happened to the car. i would not try to cheat anyone out of something that isnt their fault. i dont work like that.

so please no more opinions on what YOU think happened. i just need one picture. and might not even need it. but it could help. so please help me as i have helped many of you. thanks

What I know is happening is you are attempting to defraud someone. And I also know that if somebody gives you a picture of another car and you use it claiming it as yours, they are an accessory to fraud. To knowingly use a photo of another vehicle that is not yours whether it is identical in brand, color, shape, etc. is in fact fraud. Apparently neither party has proof beyond doubt that the fence did the damage. If the landlord and/or the insurance company 'thinks' the fence did not do the damage and you 'think' this is what caused it, then the proof needs to be beyond doubt; not falsified. If it went to court or if the insurance company found out that you used a photo of another car you claimed to be damage one, you are in big trouble. Ask yourself if it's worth jail time and/or a financial penalty. Here's my questions: Who took the pictures of the damaged car shown in this post? Can't someone who lives there take a piece of the fence and line it up against the bumper to show that the possibility is in fact real that the fence could do this? If none of this can be done, let it go dude ... get the insurance money for the tail lamp and move on. For real ... for your own sake.

[scotty-2-forty]

Yeah those look like pressure cracks, I can't see a fence doing that. I'm with the land lord on this one.

Don't be so quick to judge. I know that here in south Florida we can get wind 'gusts' up to 70mph during some thunderstorms. Hell, two weeks ago we had a hail storm out of nowhere that produced golfball size hail that broke some plastic on my Suburban ... put a hole straight through the window visor! The bumper on our 240's is only plastic, and the pressure cracks also depend on how much flex-agent was used in the paint process. I can only imagine in the mid-west the types of storms and downdrafts that those thunderheads can produce. At this point, this is more about proof, not judgement.

[S13AL]

The white streak on the pressure cracks looks like a bumper to bumper 100%

[motoman399]

shouldnt the fence owner be in the position of proving his fence didnt cause the damage? if it can bust a tail light it can tear up some paint. wind is pretty powerful when it's pushing on a 6'x8' panel of fence with post attached.

edit: you will have zero credibility if this thread or your fake pics somehow get into the argument. get a professional opinion from a bodyshop or something about how the damage happened.

thanks

IF the land lord is going to go thru insurance on this incident, why wouldnt he say the bumper damage is from the fence as well. its not going to cost him any more or any less....

i dont know. im with you on it.

What I know is happening is you are attempting to defraud someone. And I also know that if somebody gives you a picture of another car and you use it claiming it as yours, they are an accessory to fraud. To knowingly use a photo of another vehicle that is not yours whether it is identical in brand, color, shape, etc. is in fact fraud. Apparently neither party has proof beyond doubt that the fence did the damage. If the landlord and/or the insurance company 'thinks' the fence did not do the damage and you 'think' this is what caused it, then the proof needs to be beyond doubt; not falsified. If it went to court or if the insurance company found out that you used a photo of another car you claimed to be damage one, you are in big trouble. Ask yourself if it's worth jail time and/or a financial penalty. Here's my questions: Who took the pictures of the damaged car shown in this post? Can't someone who lives there take a piece of the fence and line it up against the bumper to show that the possibility is in fact real that the fence could do this? If none of this can be done, let it go dude ... get the insurance money for the tail lamp and move on. For real ... for your own sake.

very good point. ok well pic request is off. my girlfriend took the pics. she isnt strong enough to put the fence back on the car and then pick it up again. and she only noticed the very obvious which was the tail light. then the next day she noticed the bumper. and we know that it wasnt another car. i was not like that before and she didnt use her car that day, so it was not another car.

i think the guy that took the pictures was just being a d!ck. the lady seemed to be more understanding. thanks for your help scotty.

The white streak on the pressure cracks looks like a bumper to bumper 100%

get the fukk out. your too jdm for my thread fag

[sancosys]

get the fukk out. your too jdm for my thread fag

Dont come in here asking for stupid stuff then start talking to people like that...Have some respect.

Take it to a body shop, get a quote and go on with your life...

[ILoveMyRHS13]

So this is silly. I can understand wanting not to get screwed over, but posting on the INTERNET about it?

Aight, well there is a VERY easy fix to this... It involves MS paint and taking a picture of the other side of the car where the bumper is still in good condition. I'll let you figure out the rest. I'm not getting roped into this s***.

[scotty-2-forty]

... i think the guy that took the pictures was just being a d!ck. the lady seemed to be more understanding. thanks for your help scotty.

Anytime. I just don't want to see somebody who (in the heat of the moment) jumps to doing something rash in order to make good. It can get you in trouble. But I think you understand now. Again, good luck with it all and stay cool.

[scotty-2-forty]

So this is silly. I can understand wanting not to get screwed over, but posting on the INTERNET about it?

Aight, well there is a VERY easy fix to this... It involves MS paint and taking a picture of the other side of the car where the bumper is still in good condition. I'll let you figure out the rest. I'm not getting roped into this s***.

You just did.

[cubantunr]

Wish my gf had a 240

[motoman399]

Wish my gf had a 240

lol thats right be jealous. haha. she loves it too!

[Hooked on 240]

Wish my gf had a 240

AND that color blue

[motoman399]

AND that color blue

yes it turned out very nice. it pops in the sun. i will be painting the rest of the car soon. when i get some more money