kmckis1029 wrote:oh and here is another example of engineer vs accountant... why does the 350z have a struct tower brace and the g35 doesnt? yes the FM platform is very stiff by it self... yes the 350z is a slightly different market... but if an engineer had his/her way the g35 would of had a struct tower brace at a minimum, if not other bracing... i mean the car cost more than a 350z already...
Off topic here, but that's not necessarily a good example as a STRUT tower bar has much less benefit on a vehicle that has no struts. To be clear, a strut is a shock that bears lateral loads. Basically, the strut tower is reinforced sheet metal whose attachement point to the upper bearing plat of the strut is located some distance away from the frame. This introduces plenty of room for flex when a high degree of lateral loads and to some extent, vertical loads or present. Strut bars help to spread the load out by transferring some of the load to the other strut tower, which reduces the overall flex.
In a vehicle with a double wishbone suspension, the lateral loads are transferred through the chassis through the suspension arms. In particular for this case, the upper A arm, whose mounting points are typically on the frame rail itself, which provides a huge advantage over a strut based suspension already. The only load the shock tower sees will be the vertical loads placed through the spring and shock by the tire's interface with the ground. Adding a strut tower bar in such a case would yield negligible benefits. It would add some additional rigidity of course, but it would be indirect as far as the suspension is concerned. The proper bracing for a double wishbone would be to connect the mounting points of the upper A arms together. In such a case, there was probably a good deal of marketing value in placing placing a bar into the Z considering its target consumer. Of course, this would still prove your case in that the accountants would likely dictate its use over engineers as an engineer might see it as unnecessary or poorly placed.