performance chips

[cherryball]

hi, i saw performance chips being sold on ebay.. do they really help the car? are there any negative sides to the chips? please advice.

[Versa Madness]

Snake oil. Do not waste your money on these "performance chips". They are just a simple resistor that you can buy at your electronic store for under $1.

[Rockhound]

[EDIT: ^^^ Beat me to it!]

Many of the 'chips' on Ebay are nothing more than overpriced resistors that do absolutely nothing, except rip people off.

True performance ECU chips come at a steep price, JWT being one popular distributer of chips and reprogramming modules. Such chips/ECU controls change all sorts of engine parameters, from rev limiters to air/fuel mixtures, and can really 'unlock' a lot of pent-up potential that is otherwise inhibited by stock ECU programming. Certainly, some engines have more 'unlockable' potential than others.

[jfanaselle]

[edit - both of you beat me to it!]

These are all a big scam. These so called "performance chip's" are nothing more than a $.25 resistor that you can buy at your local radio shack. They do nothing but resist the voltage running from your mass air flow sensor, which alters the air/fuel mixture to be different than what the car's computer would have selected. Check the feedback from all of these sellers and you'll see that every 20th or 25th person makes a comment about how it's nothing more than a small resistor and they were ripped off.

If there was a way to give the car "22+ Horsepower" by adding a $.25 resistor to a wire, every single vehicle manufacturer would be doing this when they build the cars.

They often cause harm or cause your check engine light to turn on and not turn back off, which will cause your car to fail a smog check when it eventually needs one. Bottom line; save your money.

[jfanaselle]

[thread jack]

Hey versa madness, did you ever get those nissanversa.org decals? I was going to order a pair but I can see that no one responded to your post over in the other thread.

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[KimberKenobi]

<threadjack>Jfanaselle... just noticed the custom title... what did you do with your lighting??</threadjack>

[Versa Madness]

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Hey versa madness, did you ever get those nissanversa.org decals? I was going to order a pair but I can see that no one responded to your post over in the other thread.

[/thread jack]

No luck yet on the decals. I emailed Scott directly today and I am hoping for a reply. I will keep you all up to date.

[jfanaselle]

<threadjack>Jfanaselle... just noticed the custom title... what did you do with your lighting??</threadjack>

I received that after my fog light how-to that somehow never ended up on the tutorial page.

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I don't even have the same fogs anymore - bought some new $20 ones at Pep Boys that sit behind the fog light finishers and look factory, except they're still blue (wish I could find some clear ones for under $50). Funny how all the cheap $20 fog lights have a blue lens!

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[Julz]

(wish I could find some clear ones for under $50).

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Walmart...

[KimberKenobi]

I feel slow... </threadjack>

[Great White Versa]

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Walmart...

Speaking of Walmart...

I was at work tonight and one of our servers was concerned that the Blue-Ray Disk player that he just bought would go the way of BetaMax (he started panicking when he learned about HD DVD... he studied theater). So I said, Walmart sells Blue-Ray. He responded, oh, well then HD DVD's got no chance in h***.

haha, thought some of you might enjoy.</major thread jack>

[Ever Victorious]

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Personally, I could give a hoot who wins. I'm not converting to either one until one clear standard has won out over the other.

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[Demonspawn]

they do have dual format machines out there for a little price.

[marleyfan]

I've already bought HD-DVD. Of course I was once the proud owner of a Sony Betamax too so you may not want to follow my lead.

I now return you to our regularly scheduled thread.

[jfanaselle]

Well since the thread is 500 miles away from where it started, I'll put my take on this:

Blu-Ray all the way. There's no denying that Blu-Ray is the better of the two formats from a technology standpoint. The only benefit to HD-DVD today is the price and the fact that some studios are only offering content on HD-DVD (Universal and Paramount).

HD-DVD is just a spin-off of the existing dvd format. Blu-Ray is a completely new format that was created from the ground up to support the need for HD video and interactivity. The main technological difference is more capacity per layer (25 gb vs. 15 gb) and a higher streaming bit-rate.

It'll take a while for either format to win, but ultimately Blu-Ray will be the champion. Companies like Sony have already convinced most of the providers of content (movie studios, etc) that Blu-Ray is the better format and currently Blu-Ray players have outsold HD-DVD 2:1, which means the providers of the content have a larger base of customers to sell to. I personally met the group of individuals who work for Sony that are campaigning this technology to the studios, and they mentioned that swaying Universal is their next objective.

Just as DVD is now being phased out by the need for 1080p content, HD-DVD will eventually be phased out when the higher streaming bit-rate and data storage are manditory to support the content that customers desire.

[KimberKenobi]

I would just like to point out that the product with the better quality doesn't necessarily win this war... cases in point? 8-track vs cassette, Beta vs VHS...

Just pointing that out...

cassettes won out because of capacity (which in this case would favor the Blue Ray)VHS won out because of marketing (which may also favor the Blue Ray)

[Rockhound]

Well since the thread is 500 miles away from where it started...

Yeah, this thing is thoroughly 'jacked.

[KimberKenobi]

cassettes won out because of capacity (which in this case would favor the Blue Ray)VHS won out because of marketing (which may also favor the Blue Ray)

I am bumping this only to say...The winner has been announced!! yay!

[Ever Victorious]

Yay for them... but...

Still not going to go run out and buy one right away. :P

[KimberKenobi]

it's still official XoP

damnit. So what's going to happen to the DVDs?? I've already invested in a wonderful DVD recorder...

[xtwoonamatchx]

I received that after my fog light how-to that somehow never ended up on the tutorial page.

zerothread?id=287753

I don't even have the same fogs anymore - bought some new $20 ones at Pep Boys that sit behind the fog light finishers and look factory, except they're still blue (wish I could find some clear ones for under $50). Funny how all the cheap $20 fog lights have a blue lens!

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dude... i went with the ebay fogs... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWD1V

great item... i love them.

[KimberKenobi]

Did you notice if those came with the connectors for the stock harness? I know you don't have the stock harness... but I'm wondering why they would list it as for the Versa unless it came with the connectors...

[bigdog]

heard toshiba getting out of hd-dvd,because blu-ray is killing them,anyway any know of any "real "performance chips out there?

[Kolk1]

Its over. Blu Ray already won.

Knockdown #1) Warner Brothers dropped HD to go Blu Ray.knockdown #2) Toshiba Dropped their HD lineKnockdown #3) Walmart dropped HD to go Blu Ray. Knockdown #4) Xbox 360 Releasing a Blu Ray add on in May, followed by a 360 with built in Blu Ray. Knockdown #5) Netflix dropped HDKnockdown #6) Blockbuster Dropped HD. (I havent confirmed this one yet)

Some of these havent officially happened, but they are in the works. Like Warner Brothers wont 100% be Blu Ray until May.

[lancepdx]

I would like to read the article about the x-box/blu ray if you have a link.

[reyes1212]

well...blu-ray won...hd-dvd dead well...soon to be executed anyways with toshiba's back-out.

[Kolk1]

ok, Im at work, and cant copy/paste, and it wont show me the full link, but Yahoo Tech just did an article about Xbox talking about going blu ray. The part of the link I could write down, goes as follows

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/79989

I hope that works, if not, ill repost tonight when I get a real computer, and not a cash regester in the install bay at Best Buy. lol