I had a feeling we'd hear from you Don't you mean 01-04 though? If 2000 is also an applicable donor, then it should be back to 97 or so, right?Hawairish wrote:...you can pull any HG43 axle from an R50 or QX4 00-04...
Hawairish,Hawairish wrote:Exact same as an R50, with a minor exception on older R50s that had difference in shock mounting.
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If you need any reference pics, let me know. I have a full spare rear axle and 3 HG43 diffs in my garage. If you're near AZ, I can even help with the parts or work!
Depends...I'm not exactly sure when Nissan changed the shock mounting styles, and if it was with any of the half-year models or face changes. It may have actually been earlier than 00. But that's also in regards to the full axle assembly (everything wheel-to-wheel)...which I don't think is a bridge he'll need to cross. All the axle's internals are identical, minus differences between the open and LSD carriers, though.atraudes wrote:I had a feeling we'd hear from you Don't you mean 01-04 though? If 2000 is also an applicable donor, then it should be back to 97 or so, right?Hawairish wrote:...you can pull any HG43 axle from an R50 or QX4 00-04...
Excellent info as always!
Thanks again for all the info. It sounds like a fairly straight forward procedure. I've located a locking carrier from a 99 pathfinder with 110,000 miles on the donor vehicle. At $175 it's marginally cheaper than the $1800 the Infiniti dealer wants for the full rear axle assembly. :-). I think I'm going to give this swap a shot and see how it goes. The JY will have the part ready for me next week. I will update this thread with my results. I'm wondering if I ought to just go ahead and grab the axles from the donor while I'm at it just in case the current axles have any damage...Hawairish wrote:How did they determine the ring and/or gear is damaged? Did they just drain the fluid and peep into the fill hole? Was anything on the magnetic drain plug?
I guess I'm still a little skeptical...chunks in the diff would've likely created a bit of noise and chatter, and probably would have grenaded the diff if they were big enough by now.
Nonetheless, if that's really the case, a 3rd member from your local junkyard probably runs about $150, and you could swap it into the vehicle as-is if you really wanted to. Skip replacing the internals, just swap it whole. It's a very DIY swap...literally sockets and wrenches (and a dead-blow hammer or mallet). If it lacks the LSD, you can swap your carrier into the donor diff, but it requires setting up the gears a little (not nearly as much effort as a true R&P setup in this scenario). If you really want the LSD and don't want to deal with the setup, hold out for finding an LSD diff. Beyond that, just need a new diff gasket, gear oil, and brake fluid to call it a day.
I provided a basic pictorial of the process to another NPORA member a while back whose diff did grenade on him, plus this at TheNissanPath: http://www.thenissanpath.com/viewtopic. ... 197705b7cd. Just gotta pull the axle shafts out far enough to clear them from the carrier.
Hi Hawairish,heelsrtops wrote:Thanks again for all the info. It sounds like a fairly straight forward procedure. I've located a locking carrier from a 99 pathfinder with 110,000 miles on the donor vehicle. At $175 it's marginally cheaper than the $1800 the Infiniti dealer wants for the full rear axle assembly. :-). I think I'm going to give this swap a shot and see how it goes. The JY will have the part ready for me next week. I will update this thread with my results. I'm wondering if I ought to just go ahead and grab the axles from the donor while I'm at it just in case the current axles have any damage...Hawairish wrote:How did they determine the ring and/or gear is damaged? Did they just drain the fluid and peep into the fill hole? Was anything on the magnetic drain plug?
I guess I'm still a little skeptical...chunks in the diff would've likely created a bit of noise and chatter, and probably would have grenaded the diff if they were big enough by now.
Nonetheless, if that's really the case, a 3rd member from your local junkyard probably runs about $150, and you could swap it into the vehicle as-is if you really wanted to. Skip replacing the internals, just swap it whole. It's a very DIY swap...literally sockets and wrenches (and a dead-blow hammer or mallet). If it lacks the LSD, you can swap your carrier into the donor diff, but it requires setting up the gears a little (not nearly as much effort as a true R&P setup in this scenario). If you really want the LSD and don't want to deal with the setup, hold out for finding an LSD diff. Beyond that, just need a new diff gasket, gear oil, and brake fluid to call it a day.
I provided a basic pictorial of the process to another NPORA member a while back whose diff did grenade on him, plus this at TheNissanPath: http://www.thenissanpath.com/viewtopic. ... 197705b7cd. Just gotta pull the axle shafts out far enough to clear them from the carrier.
Yeah, I'd definitely prod them about how they reached that conclusion, especially without draining the fluid (which I would've expected that they charge you for if they did), or putting it on a lift and spin some tires by hand (and then demonstrating the test to you). It absolutely blows my mind that a mechanic can propose a $2000 solution, charge $100 for reaching that conclusion, and not do $5 worth (let alone $100) of work to prove it. They might be right at times, but it's like saying the truck rumbles because of the position of the moon when you happen to be driving and you should get it fixed immediately otherwise every puppy in the world will die. (All, of which, is true, btw.)heelsrtops wrote: I don't know how they determined the gear was bad. I'll ask when I go to pick up the QX4. I kind of had to prod them to spend more time on the axle so I can't imagine they did anything more than the basics you mentioned.
Hello again,Hawairish wrote:How did they determine the ring and/or gear is damaged? Did they just drain the fluid and peep into the fill hole? Was anything on the magnetic drain plug?
I guess I'm still a little skeptical...chunks in the diff would've likely created a bit of noise and chatter, and probably would have grenaded the diff if they were big enough by now.
Nonetheless, if that's really the case, a 3rd member from your local junkyard probably runs about $150, and you could swap it into the vehicle as-is if you really wanted to. Skip replacing the internals, just swap it whole. It's a very DIY swap...literally sockets and wrenches (and a dead-blow hammer or mallet). If it lacks the LSD, you can swap your carrier into the donor diff, but it requires setting up the gears a little (not nearly as much effort as a true R&P setup in this scenario). If you really want the LSD and don't want to deal with the setup, hold out for finding an LSD diff. Beyond that, just need a new diff gasket, gear oil, and brake fluid to call it a day.
I provided a basic pictorial of the process to another NPORA member a while back whose diff did grenade on him, plus this at TheNissanPath: http://www.thenissanpath.com/viewtopic. ... 197705b7cd. Just gotta pull the axle shafts out far enough to clear them from the carrier.
Thanks Hawairish,Hawairish wrote:If your LSD carrier and its internals are in good shape, you just need to swap the LSD carrier over to the new/donor diff. Put the donor's ring gear on the LSD carrier, then reinstall it.
To set up the gears you'll just need a dial indicator and a simple tool to torque the side adjusters. I made my tool with channel aluminum and rivets, but I think Rugged Rocks still sells one. I'll get some links and pics later.
Hawairish,Hawairish wrote:If the open diff is the same gearing and spline count, then yeah, you can just swap it in. You should absolutely confirm the spline count on the side gears before doing anything if you didn't pull the diff yourself, or see it pulled from the donor vehicle. If you count 33 splines and see "48:11" stamped on the edge of the ring gear (HG43 right?), you're good.
I'd recommend a new diff gasket, which you can get at Rock Auto for cheap. You should also consider new axle seals if you have the time.
Swapping later is up to you. Pulling the diff, and putting it back up there is a pain (and I basically just muscled it myself). Pulling the axles multiple times is bad for the seals (be mindful about resting the axles on them, they're at the end of the tube behind the brake drum plate). Then there's the cost of gear oil (unless you plan to re-use...guess that wouldn't be terrible...it just has to be LSD-safe) and some brake fluid since you'll need to disconnect the lines.
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Hawairish wrote:Bad u-joints can make things interesting...curious to hear what the driveline shop says when they get around to it.
Thanks Rebelord. Unfortunately, I'm not so lucky. At this point I'm pretty sure the ECU is damaged. I'll pull that this weekend and see what I find. I did replace the IACV and the truck will at least idle (at 250rpm) on its own but unplugging the IACV makes 0 difference in the behavior so I doubt the valve is getting any input from the ECU.Rebelord wrote:Man, your just having bad luck. Check your oil, mine eats it. When it gets low enough. I know, the wife will call. Truck cant idle or go over 10mph. I just tell her put the quart in thats in the back. Starts up runs fine until I get home to properly top off. Crossing fingers yours may be just as simple?