Parking Brake warning light

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My wife's '09 parking brake warning light/chime is driving her crazy. It won't stay "off" even after lifting it with one's foot. While out with her recently I checked the owner's manual and checked the brake fluid to make sure it wasn't low. Brake fluid was where it should be so I recapped the reservoir and after that the light/chime stayed off for several days until she bumped her parking brake pedal while getting into the car. Light on/annoying chime returned.

Is this a "feature" or a problem?

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coopab wrote:My wife's '09 parking brake warning light/chime is driving her crazy. It won't stay "off" even after lifting it with one's foot. While out with her recently I checked the owner's manual and checked the brake fluid to make sure it wasn't low. Brake fluid was where it should be so I recapped the reservoir and after that the light/chime stayed off for several days until she bumped her parking brake pedal while getting into the car. Light on/annoying chime returned.

Is this a "feature" or a problem?

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Feature? In as much as it's telling you there's a problem, yes. Is it a problem? Yes, but what?
Since you checked the fluid level and it appeared to be ok, I'm inclined to rule out that maybe hydraulic pressure has been lost in one side of the brake system. Sounds like the switch on the parking brake pedal is misadjusted. Probably there's nothing is wrong with the brakes, and a simple adjustment should fix the problem. Have you taken in to have it checked?

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coopab wrote:My wife's '09 parking brake warning light/chime is driving her crazy. It won't stay "off" even after lifting it with one's foot. While out with her recently I checked the owner's manual and checked the brake fluid to make sure it wasn't low. Brake fluid was where it should be so I recapped the reservoir and after that the light/chime stayed off for several days until she bumped her parking brake pedal while getting into the car. Light on/annoying chime returned.

Is this a "feature" or a problem?

coopab
the emergency/parking brake doesn't run on brake fluid. its an independent, cable system. so no need to check the brake fluid. Furthermore: the E-brakes/Parking Brakes ONLY apply the rear calipers. Its not an anti-lock (abs) system either. The Parking/E-Brake do not influence the front calipers at all. SO PLEASE NEVER STEP ON THAT PEDAL, AS YOU WILL THROW YOURSELF, INTO A FISHTAIL.

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turn the car on, and apply the brake pedal, and then release it, allowing it to come back to the fully "off" position. Gently jiggle the pedal(without actually engaging the brake itself). does your dash light/chime come on? IF the brake does jiggle enough to actuate the chime/light = then you need a cable adjustment. or you could have a faulty switch that lost its retention, and jiggles on its own(inside the actual small module)

if not- the fault lies with YOU. someone must be accidentally apply it while getting in or out of the vehicle.

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ImStricken wrote:if not- the fault lies with YOU. Someone must be accidentally applying it while getting in or out of the vehicle.
User error PEBEBAS (Problem Exists Between Emergency Brake And Seat)

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all of the above makes perfect sense. What mystefied me is what the owner's manual says. I don't have it with me since wifey is at work, but there seemed to be an implication that somehow the hydraulic system IS related. I guess the light must serve dual purposes: 1) warning that the e-brake is on, and 2) brake fluid is low due to leakage, worn out brake pads, etc. Of course, "take it to the dealer and have them check it" is always the ultimate solution.
So, next question is: Does anyone have any actual experience in adjusting or replacing the e-brake switch.

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coopab wrote:all of the above makes perfect sense. What mystefied me is what the owner's manual says. I don't have it with me since wifey is at work, but there seemed to be an implication that somehow the hydraulic system IS related. I guess the light must serve dual purposes: 1) warning that the e-brake is on, and 2) brake fluid is low due to leakage, worn out brake pads, etc. Of course, "take it to the dealer and have them check it" is always the ultimate solution.
So, next question is: Does anyone have any actual experience in adjusting or replacing the e-brake switch.
nissan often ignites the SLIP light when the pads are worn/fluid is low. how many miles do you have on the pads? what color was your brake fluid?
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Electrical tape over warning light='s problem solved

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minibus4 wrote:Electrical tape over warning light='s problem solved
No No No
Never do that unless you are sure the car has no problem
(TPMS for example, if you change to winter tires with no TPMS, then you are ok. Just make sure to check the tire pressure)

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minibus4 wrote:Electrical tape over warning light='s problem solved
The problem still exists, although we've been able to keep the light/chime off by gently touching the pkg. brake pedal until it stays OFF for most of the time. However a slight touch of the pedal, hard to avoid completely, will make the light come on and the chime start dinging.
(aside to minibus4: electrical tape over the warning light does not quiet the chime :crazy: )
So, if it is possible to adjust the cable, or switch, do I need to crawl under the car to do the adjustment or contort my body to get under the dash? :frown:

Since this is a pretty old thread I will repost if I don't get any new responses within a few days.
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see if there is a sensor/wire to the e-brake pedal. you might just be able to disconnect it

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ImStricken wrote:see if there is a sensor/wire to the e-brake pedal. you might just be able to disconnect it
There is, however I'd recommend looking at what's happening with that switch and see if it's a simple fix.
Last thing you wants is to have parking brake engaged by accident and drive for a prolonged period with it that way.

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sprocket wrote:
ImStricken wrote:see if there is a sensor/wire to the e-brake pedal. you might just be able to disconnect it
There is, however I'd recommend looking at what's happening with that switch and see if it's a simple fix.
Last thing you wants is to have parking brake engaged by accident and drive for a prolonged period with it that way.
The parking brake is definitely DISengaged. The only problem centers around the nuisance of having the parking brake warning light and chime on. We can get it to stay off for extended periods of time by gently pushing down on the pedal (not even close to engaging the parking brake) until the light and chime go off and stay off.
However, going over a bumpy stretch of road, or bumping the pedal with one's left foot, etc. can cause it to come back on. When it happens while driving it is harded to get it to stay OFF using one's foot.
When the problem first arose I crawled down under the dash and tried to spot a parking brake switch comparable to others I've encountered in my 40+ years of driving and don't remember seeing one. Today, using my phone camera I was able to capture this picture [URL=https://forum-attachments.sfo2.di ... .jpg[/img][/url] which looks like what I had been unable to find before. I can see the wire behind the heavy spring but how would I go about removing the switch to see if I can find out why it's misbehaving? And to replace it if necessary?


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