HashiriyaS14 wrote:In terms of social issues, I'd say this is untrue, but only because most of these social issues weren't issues back in 1965. The norms were defined, it wasn't until the late 60's when they were upset and the GOP started to define themselves around social issues.
You might be way off depending on what you view as "social issues," lol. The modern Republican party's stance on social issues began in the early 80s, with the rise of the "Moral Majority." Also, don't forget about leftist bull**** like No Child Left Behind... So unless you view welfare and the like as a social issue (I don't), the Republicans have been sliding left for decades. More to follow
HashiriyaS14 wrote:I'd argue that today's GOP is also, at least in rhetoric, more fiscally conservative than the "Rockefeller Republicans" of days past.
The same Republicans who's presidential nominee voted for the bailout, who's president created it, lol? Rhetoric is different from actions...*sigh*
No, the GOP of the past rallied around blocking or streamlining the New Deal. Yeah, the "Rockefeller Republicans" split the party and they were all for welfare and high taxes, but we're talking rather short period of time until Reagan and Goldwater pushed them off the stage (Goldwater vs. Rockefeller was...1962?). So from roughly 1965 to 1980 when the religious right appeared, we've got small social government, lower taxes/regulation Republicans running around. The Northeast has always been a "moderate" stronghold, though. Eisenhower was a "moderate" though. I'd still be tempted to make a case that these days Eisenhower would be on the right side of the "moderate" Republicans. Nixon, though... Nixon...
HashiriyaS14 wrote:They obviously can't deliver on their promises of lower spending and smaller government, but they make it a more important issue than, say, Nixon did. Nixon-era Republicans merely tried to slow the rate at which government grew rather than trying to actively shrink it.
Nixon, now Nixon is interesting. Basically, he was picked to run for president because he was an acceptable compromise to steal votes from a fractured Democratic party.
HashiriyaS14 wrote:I'd also argue that the Democrats have slid well right, on average, from where they were with JFK and Johnson (i.e. the "Great Society", or New Deal Part Deux). Clinton moved the Democratic consensus towards the center, although 8 years of Bush 43 have exacerbated leftist tendencies a bit of late (hence the preference for Obama rather than Hillary, who was more centrist despite her primary campaign populist rhetoric).
Kennedy's "New Frontier" is pretty left. However, his tax reform was pretty right. Johnson was pretty much Kennedy II. Well, that's not totally fair to Johnson, lol.
Here's the leftist slide:TeddyNancyAnyone else who suggests that health care is a universal right. I mean, the only way to get more left is to take control of vast sections of an indus....wait. Yup.
Even on social issues, Teddy voted against that act that prevented illegal seizure of firearms. THAT'S leftist!