Palin still not ready for Meet the Press

A place for intelligent and well-thought-out discussion involving politics and associated topics. No nonsense will be tolerated at all.
User avatar
AZhitman
Administrator
Posts: 54538
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:04 am
Car: 58 L210, 63 Bluebird RHD, 64 NL320, 65 SPL310, 66 411 RHD, 67 WRL411, 68 510 SR20, 75 280Z RB25, 77 620 SR20, 79 B310, 90 Z32, 91 GTi-R, 92 Silvia Qs, 98 S14, 23 Z.
Location: Surprise, Arizona
Contact:

Post

HashiriyaS14 wrote:I think we're having a misunderstanding.
Nope - We got it. Agreed 100%.


User avatar
Cold_Zero
Posts: 6714
Joined: Sun Oct 20, 2002 4:15 pm
Car: 2003 Nissan Altima SE 3.5
2005 Nissan Pathfinder

Post

ishkabibble wrote:Dennis Miller still has a job? How unfortunate.
Yup and pretty good at it too.

User avatar
AZhitman
Administrator
Posts: 54538
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:04 am
Car: 58 L210, 63 Bluebird RHD, 64 NL320, 65 SPL310, 66 411 RHD, 67 WRL411, 68 510 SR20, 75 280Z RB25, 77 620 SR20, 79 B310, 90 Z32, 91 GTi-R, 92 Silvia Qs, 98 S14, 23 Z.
Location: Surprise, Arizona
Contact:

Post

ishkabibble wrote:Dennis Miller still has a job? How unfortunate.
He's quite the enigma for me.

At times, I want to drop him in a woodchipper. Then again, sometimes he makes me laugh.

Maybe I'm just too dumb to "get" his humor.

ishkabibble
Posts: 4667
Joined: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:08 pm
Car: 1992 Nissan NX2000 hardtop
1993 Nissan NX2000 t-top
1997 Infiniti I30t

Post

I liked him until I saw him on MNF. Those performances ruined him for life for me. I'd rather listen to Madden's platitudes.

User avatar
Cold_Zero
Posts: 6714
Joined: Sun Oct 20, 2002 4:15 pm
Car: 2003 Nissan Altima SE 3.5
2005 Nissan Pathfinder

Post

It is pretty heady humor. But not as bad as Bill Bennett.bud

User avatar
AZhitman
Administrator
Posts: 54538
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:04 am
Car: 58 L210, 63 Bluebird RHD, 64 NL320, 65 SPL310, 66 411 RHD, 67 WRL411, 68 510 SR20, 75 280Z RB25, 77 620 SR20, 79 B310, 90 Z32, 91 GTi-R, 92 Silvia Qs, 98 S14, 23 Z.
Location: Surprise, Arizona
Contact:

Post

ishkabibble wrote:I liked him until I saw him on MNF. Those performances ruined him for life for me.
Ditto. And I didn't really like him on SNL.

Then again, I've seen him in a few cameos in movies and he made me lol.

I'd say I lean more towards "dislike", and I'm still not really sure which side of the fence he falls on.

User avatar
Urabus GodofTraction
Posts: 6178
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:36 pm
Car: 2002 Subaru WRX Wagon
2004 Suzuki SV650
1988 Toyota Land Cruiser
1994 Honda XR600R

Post

HashiriyaS14 wrote:In terms of social issues, I'd say this is untrue, but only because most of these social issues weren't issues back in 1965. The norms were defined, it wasn't until the late 60's when they were upset and the GOP started to define themselves around social issues.
You might be way off depending on what you view as "social issues," lol. The modern Republican party's stance on social issues began in the early 80s, with the rise of the "Moral Majority." Also, don't forget about leftist bull**** like No Child Left Behind... So unless you view welfare and the like as a social issue (I don't), the Republicans have been sliding left for decades. More to follow
HashiriyaS14 wrote:I'd argue that today's GOP is also, at least in rhetoric, more fiscally conservative than the "Rockefeller Republicans" of days past.
The same Republicans who's presidential nominee voted for the bailout, who's president created it, lol? Rhetoric is different from actions...*sigh*

No, the GOP of the past rallied around blocking or streamlining the New Deal. Yeah, the "Rockefeller Republicans" split the party and they were all for welfare and high taxes, but we're talking rather short period of time until Reagan and Goldwater pushed them off the stage (Goldwater vs. Rockefeller was...1962?). So from roughly 1965 to 1980 when the religious right appeared, we've got small social government, lower taxes/regulation Republicans running around. The Northeast has always been a "moderate" stronghold, though. Eisenhower was a "moderate" though. I'd still be tempted to make a case that these days Eisenhower would be on the right side of the "moderate" Republicans. Nixon, though... Nixon...
HashiriyaS14 wrote:They obviously can't deliver on their promises of lower spending and smaller government, but they make it a more important issue than, say, Nixon did. Nixon-era Republicans merely tried to slow the rate at which government grew rather than trying to actively shrink it.
Nixon, now Nixon is interesting. Basically, he was picked to run for president because he was an acceptable compromise to steal votes from a fractured Democratic party.
HashiriyaS14 wrote:I'd also argue that the Democrats have slid well right, on average, from where they were with JFK and Johnson (i.e. the "Great Society", or New Deal Part Deux). Clinton moved the Democratic consensus towards the center, although 8 years of Bush 43 have exacerbated leftist tendencies a bit of late (hence the preference for Obama rather than Hillary, who was more centrist despite her primary campaign populist rhetoric).
Kennedy's "New Frontier" is pretty left. However, his tax reform was pretty right. Johnson was pretty much Kennedy II. Well, that's not totally fair to Johnson, lol.

Here's the leftist slide:TeddyNancyAnyone else who suggests that health care is a universal right. I mean, the only way to get more left is to take control of vast sections of an indus....wait. Yup.

Even on social issues, Teddy voted against that act that prevented illegal seizure of firearms. THAT'S leftist!

User avatar
CakeDaddy
Posts: 1107
Joined: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:58 am
Car: Y34,Pathfinder SE, Mercedes CLK500AMG Sport Pkg & A Fleet of Premium Avis Rental Cars

Post

telcoman wrote:But she did make SNL

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21...77666

Perhaps after the election when she is no longer in the news she'll try Meet the Press?

Telcoman
She has a different agenda once this is all over. This is only a platform for her future endevours(sp) . Saraha Palin on Meet the Press would be sucide for the campaign, but an SNL apperance..... well, she cant mess that up or say anything stupid and if she did it would be to her advantage and SNL would praise her for it, so... go figure.


Return to “Politics Etc.”