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Ice2CU
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So, my 98 240 is the fantastic looking aspen white with pearl coat finish. However, it has seen better days. It was hit on the driver's side before I bought it and you can see where they repaired with good ol' bondo. I want to change the color, but I don't know what I can do to prevent the color from looking any different where the car was repaired. Anyone know more about this? I was thinking of going dark blue.


Vegascorbin
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Any good Body Shop will be able to paint it any color you want and have it look like new and all the same color. Just remember that the harder the job the higher the cost.

Ice2CU
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i always wondered if there would be any difference. I guess the guys who said that it couldn't be done were cheap. I even work for a paint company and I can probably get a better deal on products that could help make things look like new.

thanks

silpena
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u could get the paint cheaper since ur an employee but most body shops won't touch since [painter are anal about what they like to use and how much they charge. Id say stick with the regular color and it'll be cheaper. NO blending or any jambing. Jambing sucks and very expensive to do. HOw thick is the body filler? if not any thicker than the thickness of a nickle or a quarter than its a good repair not half ***. btw u say u work for a paint company...what do u guys carry? nason, matrix, ppg, dupont, sherwin willims, etc? reason i'm asking is if u can hook it up later on since i want to try to the new water borne paint when it comes out and let me say that stuff is amazing.

Ice2CU
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i work for sherwin williams. unfortunately, the automotive division is different from the architectural division, which is what I work in. So doing anything to hook anyone up with paint won't be possible because of how they do things. But, I do have a good selection of paint and the new Planet Color line is excellent. Although, it is so expensive. Since I bought my car after it was repaired, I don't know how much it has been filled.

gregfarz78
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Whoever told you it won't match doesn't knwo what their talking about or they take their car to maaco. Any good body shop will make it match perfectly, especially white you probably have the easiest color to match. Just remember though good body shop = $$$

silpena
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i just want to try to the new water borne paint. My teacher is certified through sherwin williams on the new water borne paint and he said its freakin crazy. Think of doing a whole car in about 45 min or less. WEll the only way u can see how body filler there is only getting in there. Go to a good body shop. MOre $$ equals more quality and they're work last longer. some body shop have 5 year guarantees also on the paint and repairs, but only if they are working on the oem paint and never has been touched by any other body shop.

Ice2CU
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gregfarz78 wrote:Whoever told you it won't match doesn't knwo what their talking about or they take their car to maaco. Any good body shop will make it match perfectly, especially white you probably have the easiest color to match. Just remember though good body shop = $$$
The Pearl coat Aspen White paint is a tougher system to paint than plain white or the other colors offered by Nissan at that time. It is a fantastic color though and it is pretty expensive to paint. But I think I want to steer away from the white and go blue with that pearl coat. Or something like that. Any ideas or preferences you have on colors?

silpena, I will have to check out that waterborne paint. It sounds pretty interesting.

silpena
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i bet if u wait for the water borne paint to come out. Painting pearl white aspene will easy as hell. Yes, i said it. Water borne paint virtually eliminates streaks and such. idk but man it rocks. The way it cures and sets is crazy. Someone in ur business should know. I'm going to take a water borne class next semester in college that my teacher is offering. Gonna run be 300 dollars and out of my pocket. Financial won't pay it since its going to be a community ed class but yeah check it out man. It should make matching ur color alot easier with water borne paint but its going alot more expensive. If ur going to repaint ur car i'd do it soon becuase urethane paints are going to be gone and illegal by end of 2008 and body shop are going to have to use water borne paints due to epa laws and regulation becuase water borne is more environmentally safe.

r3v_v3ng3
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silpena wrote:i bet if u wait for the water borne paint to come out. Painting pearl white aspene will easy as hell. Yes, i said it. Water borne paint virtually eliminates streaks and such. idk but man it rocks. The way it cures and sets is crazy. Someone in ur business should know. I'm going to take a water borne class next semester in college that my teacher is offering. Gonna run be 300 dollars and out of my pocket. Financial won't pay it since its going to be a community ed class but yeah check it out man. It should make matching ur color alot easier with water borne paint but its going alot more expensive. If ur going to repaint ur car i'd do it soon becuase urethane paints are going to be gone and illegal by end of 2008 and body shop are going to have to use water borne paints due to epa laws and regulation becuase water borne is more environmentally safe.
waterborne paint is already out. it does somewhat eliminates streaks but it still gets blotchy on a horizontal panel. napa and dupont came down and showed us some of their waterborne paint and we had the chance to shoot it. its pretty trippy cause you can actually pile up two coats with no flash time, and it pretty much covers. its the same on the clear coat
Ice2CU wrote:
The Pearl coat Aspen White paint is a tougher system to paint than plain white or the other colors offered by Nissan at that time. It is a fantastic color though and it is pretty expensive to paint. But I think I want to steer away from the white and go blue with that pearl coat. Or something like that. Any ideas or preferences you have on colors?

silpena, I will have to check out that waterborne paint. It sounds pretty interesting.
pearl coats are harder because they're mostly tri-coats. you have to shoot in three stages (four if you count sealer) base, midcoat, clear.while most shops do single stage on changing color cause its easier and cheaper. if you plan on changing colors its going to be around 2g's or upwards of 3g's when you do tri coats

silpena
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yeah my teacher rave s about sherwin william becuase u can freeze the paint and re heat it and still will work no matter what. Yeah the water borne paint. He says its better than dupont or ppg since they have fast flash time and fast spraying up close thing is sick just like my style.

r3v_v3ng3
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didn't know sherwin williams have autopaints. all of them claims the same as having the best waterborne paints. seen their demonstrations dupont/napa/valspar. they all seems to be the same to me.

silpena
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well they do claim to be the best in water borne and the first to do it, but from what my teacher told me(went to a seminar to get certified) told it was awsome. I'll surely be using it next semester to get in on it. I would expect dupont to be next in line then valspar. I'm kinda effy on napa products.

Ice2CU
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r3v_v3ng3 wrote:didn't know sherwin williams have autopaints. all of them claims the same as having the best waterborne paints. seen their demonstrations dupont/napa/valspar. they all seems to be the same to me.
Sherwin Williams has their hand in almost everything paint. If you have ever watched the speed channel, that show Payback? They used Sherwin Williams' Planet Color paints...which at the time weren't even available to the public. But now they are, and are really expensive, but they look great.


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