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For some reason the clear coat on the Supra's hood and bumper is starting to flake.The paint underneath it is ok from what i can tell.

So my question is,what can i do just to take the clear coat off the hood and bumper so i can re-clear it? Ive got my own guns and ive painted a couple of engine bays and stuff with it so im not to worried about painting it.I just need to know how to get the clear coat off without digging/scratching the paint underneath it.

Im gonna get the whole car redone eventually,im just trying to stop it now so it wont look like crap until then.





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Im starting to get orange peel as well on one of my fender flares. Im guessing use paint thinner, sand it, prime it, repaint?

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Nala, You don't magically get orange peel over time.It happens during the painting process.

Lee, is that rust?Looks like the bumper is fine, but the hood looks like it has some surface rust, or are my eyes tricking me?

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you could just give the car to me and get rid of the problem altogether!

from the interwebz: Step 1

Wash the area with soapy water. Allow to dry completely. Step 2

Lightly sand the area that is peeling.(with a fine grit sand paper) Do not sand through the paint, as you only want to remove any evident peeling. Step 3

Cut the bottom from a cardboard box. Place it over the area that needs touching up, so that the clear coat will not spread to the undamaged areas. Step 4

Spray or brush a clear coat touch-up paint onto the area inside the box. Touch-up paint is available at most auto supply shops. Cover with an upside-down intact cardboard box to keep dirt and dust from settling on the area. Allow to dry for the length of time recommended by the manufacturer.()

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I'll try to keep this as short as possible, and hopefully it'll help. The above instructions are probably your best bet. As you said though, you're going to need to repaint the entire hood.

First, is your car slightly dirty? The first pic looks like the clearcoat is really low in gloss (at least on the hood). The problem with trying to touch-up the problem sections is that the new clear will be much higher in gloss. You are almost certainly going to end up with a different appearance on those sections. With a good clearcoat job, the finish should be very mirror-like. In fact, great paint jobs will allow you to basically see individual strands of hair in the reflection.

Also, the basecoat looks like it has weathered somewhat. It might just be the picture, but the color looks fairly different from the sections that still have clear over them. Because of the pigments and afflair (metal/ceramic particles), there is little room for good UV protection in that layer of paint. Most of the durability from UV light is provided by the clearcoat. Thus, lack of clear will degrade the basecoat much more rapidly. I doubt the discoloration is rust, as there is probably enough basecoat/primer to protect the surface of the body. If you let it go a lot longer though, that will be an issue.

Since you will need a new paint job to make the car look excellent, it wont hurt to try Jay's suggestion. It should provide enough protection to last until you can afford to repaint. Just be sure to get the bubbling sections off first. You don't want to trap air bubbles under the touch up layer, as they will certainly peel nearly as easily.

Also Nala, Razi is 100% correct that clearcoat doesn't develop orange peel over time. If anything, the level of orange peel is reduced with time as the peaks in the film are worn down. Additionally, paint thinner wont do much on cured automotive coatings. If anything, that would just make them hazy looking. To remove the entire film you would need industrial strength paint stripper or sandblasting.

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i bet that truck plays "chain hang low"

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MellowS13 wrote:i bet that truck plays "chain hang low"

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naladude911 wrote:Im starting to get orange peel as well on one of my fender flares. Im guessing use paint thinner, sand it, prime it, repaint?

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naladude911 wrote:Im starting to get orange peel as well on one of my fender flares. Im guessing use paint thinner, sand it, prime it, repaint?
Le sigh.

+ facepalm

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naladude911 wrote:Im starting to get orange peel as well on one of my fender flares. Im guessing use paint thinner, sand it, prime it, repaint?
Dont touch it.

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lee, there is no saving that paint job. unless you want to respray the entire car, i'd call it a loss. time to part it out and send me that 2jz......
naladude911 wrote:Im starting to get orange peel as well on one of my fender flares. Im guessing use paint thinner, sand it, prime it, repaint?
you really are an idiot.

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naladude911 wrote:Im starting to get orange peel as well on one of my fender flares. Im guessing use paint thinner, sand it, prime it, repaint?
it really bothers me when you make this kind of ignorant statements.

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numbnuts240 wrote:lee, there is no saving that paint job. unless you want to respray the entire car, i'd call it a loss. time to part it out and send me that 2jz......


I plan i getting it resprayed eventually so im just trying to keep it from looking crappy right now.

Im gonna have to redo the entire hood.Its got small air bubbles all over it under the clear.

What grit of sandpaper do u think i need?


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