Pacesetter or Hotshot?

[AZhitman]

Looking at a header for the DOHC KA...

I can get a Pacesetter for 1/2 the price of a Hotshot - Are there substantial differences in the two?

Facts only, please - No third-hand knowledge from "a friend of a friend".

Thanks much, guys!

[SeVa-S13]

Neither.

A tubular manifold with a space for a snail-like metal object to go.

[gabossie]

I would never invest in anything made by pacesetter unless it was the one and ONLY choice. I've seen pacesetter headers crack a number of times, and heard more than one bad review of them from other people. Go with the hotshot, it's worth the money, especially now with the series II design that fits better.

[gabossie]

I agree with Seva though, a nice turbo manifold would be a much better alternative :pface

[Aries]

Hotshot will work wonders on your vert Greg. And still look nice in a few months.The pacesetters are painted, and the paint boils/flakes off of them and they rust.

[whiterps13]

i have had both, and besides the appearance they seem to be relatively similar in performance. once i upgraded to hotshot, it wasnt like my car felt ungodly fast. the best product is hotshot, but the best value is pacesetter. (ill sell you my old one for cheap..)

[AZhitman]

I had yours in mind when I started the thread, LOL... Hope you're not offended.

[JDizzle]

Start making BRM headers and market them w/ special NICO price .

[xns]

agreed ^

[AZhitman]

Start making BRM headers and market them w/ special NICO price .

I could, but here's the problem - I couldn't make them for much less than what Hotshots go for...

There's gotta be a margin of profit in order to pay for the development and new jig, and then you always have the nay-sayers who will say, "Well, why should I buy yours over an established name brand?"

It's a tough biz.

[Tsukai240]

There's gotta be a margin of profit in order to pay for the development and new jig,

i don't think that would be very much

and then you always have the nay-sayers who will say, "Well, why should I buy yours over an established name brand?"

It's a tough biz.

well, because you have "street cred" . i would expect a high level of quality based upon all the happy costomers customers of the BRM exausts.

[JDizzle]

Well you had to start somewhere with your BRM exaust didn't you? Look how well that went.

[AZhitman]

You guys are too kind.

[JDizzle]

Hah! We just want good prices on a quality header .

[Maverick7687]

If you made a header, at least you could count on all of us here on NICO who dont have headers yet to buy BRM.. (I know I would)

[AZhitman]

Well, I'd need one to look at and improve upon...

Not sure someone's gonna just give me a header for a month.

[mattc240]

Hey maverick You still waiting on a Tennessee Meet too?I don't live too far from Knox.... Lol Anyways...I have been wanting some headers and I was about to ask the same questions..

[Maverick7687]

Aparently there arent that many ppl here from around Knox. just me, you, burnin240sx and GirlRacerS14...never see her on her anymore. And SOMEONE PLEASE spare there header for a month....c'mon..its just a month...WE NEED THIS!!!:D :help

[IveBeenBad]

my friends pacesetter hits his steering column under hard cornering

[xns]

thats so wierd, cause I have no problems with my pacesetter

[mattc240]

Hey do you know Rich? He has a 240 and a Civic...I most likely will buy his rims off of him...The white 17' Konigs...Anyways...I would be up for going to Knox. just to hang out or w/e and see other cars...Awhile back a cpl peoples was gonna go to the dragon...I bought a freakin strut bar...(A GENERIC ONE AT THAT FOR $150!!!) Just cause I thought I was going....But my friend wouldn't go with me...Oh well...but what's your email add. and well meet up in Knox sometime Or something...I'm normally free'd up on weekends....And oh yeah...headers wouldn't hurt my car too much...Actually i could use them alot...my car sucks...It takes it like 10 secs. to get to 60...................................... And it's not ALL THAT STOCK Lol

[RedHatchback]

Hitman,if you were in Florida,I'd lend ya my header for a month as long as my car got the 1st prototype.Honestly though,if you made a header for the 91-94 240SX,I'd buy it in a heart beat.No questions asked.

[Maverick7687]

AHH..I wish I had a freakin header..i would mail it to you..lol...well, then taht would defeat the purpose of me wanting you to make one..i would already have one..dammit..i have confused myself!! Uh, not sure if I know this Rich you speak of..may have seen him around... How far away from Knox are you?? Every thursday night..Import night @ Knoxville Dragway...i go sometimes... BTW my E-Mail is : [email protected]

Had to have some nissan reference in the addy..

[mattc240]

Lol Aight...I live in Byrdstown...I can get to Cookeville in about 45 mins....(Going like 80mph all the way) I'm not for sure how far away from knoxville...and i've only been there 1 time...so i'd get lost in a heartbeat...And I think Rich lives in Greenville or something out torwards Bristol or summin...

[jdmfreak]

Damn hijackers!

Greg Ive never seen any 240 with a header in person, but ya gotta remember that you get what you pay for.

Oh and why we are on the subject of headers, how bout one for the Max? When I junk mine, I might be able to take the intake manifold off and send it to ya. Just let me know what you need. Im not too sure if its worth the time though. Let me know if you're interested anyway.

[Chingon]

From what i've read about header design, the pacesetters should be better due to the 4 to 1 collector. However I think this changes depending on the firing order of the cylinders.

If the pacesetters was thermally coated and had the o2 bung at the collector, I think it'd be a better choice over hotshot. I don't know what kind of thickness they use on their tubing/flange either.

BTW, what's the firing order in the 240?

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