Sure man, I'll do exactly that when you step down from your podium, stop lecturing people about throwing parts at problems you don't understand, giving your unsolicited opinion on how other people should spend their time and money, and not actually helping anyone with your anecdotal, passive aggressive nonsense.
In my very first reply, I set the conversation by saying I had the same problem code and confirmed that the EVAP canister was the root cause, for the reason I've now repeated. Did you miss that? Clearly you did, otherwise you wouldn't have spewed this out at me:
[...]someone comes on speaking of a code that's not directly connected to the Evap tank .. and then people want to replace it?
Wrong. You made assumptions about how the OP reached his conclusion without even finding out.
Normally the tank will be leaking and you will get another code. The valve is not even at the tank ... and the other vent valve .. at the tank usually throws the open circuit when it does fail?
Wrong. It would be
abnormal for the tank to leak, and of course it would throw one of several other codes for several other reasons...just not P1444 which we identified from the start. There's no degree of "normalcy" when a system fails. It's expected that some components may deteriorate and need repair or replacement, but failure is not normal.
The cheap aftermarket valve has a history of failing.
Do they? Have you been researching this? Do you have proof? Did anyone even say anything about having an aftermarket valve? Did anyone even say the (or a) valve had failed? Did we only start talking about aftermarket anything and their quality because you brought it up about your purchase history and buying pattern?
The tank is last -- and normally does not need to be replaced .. unless cracked. I understand all about the canister and it's contents.
And as clearly proven here, it needs to be replaced when the charcoal filter gives up the ghost and clogs the lines and EVAP purge valve. I
don't think you understand that because I've said it three times now.
Seeing as your first post on this discussion was this non-contributing ambiguous brain fart, which also struck a chord with another member:
You need to have a low personal hourly rate.
...I don't see how you can reasonably say this:
I come here trying to help -- Have 15 years with these vehicles and many more with Nissan. Take it for what it is ...
I'm not sure what there is to take. Did you help? Sorta...you "helped" degrade other people who want to think outside the box for a moment and find an alternative solution to something, anything. If I genuinely believed you really wanted to help (and I don't), and if you genuinely thought the OP might just be throwing parts at a problem (which you've advocated elsewhere, and which I did not challenge because my scenario completely validated his request), then you would have looked at the FSM and simply asked, "Dearest kennyp, how did you reach the conclusion that your EVAP canister needs replacement and not the EVAP purge valve?" Then...maybe THEN...you could suggest he inspect the valve before considering replacing the canister. Now,
that would have been helpful.
Instead, here we are, having a pissing contest about vehicle counts, one-off experiences, and Nissans. Well in that case, I'm on my 3rd Nissan in 20 years, and have worked numerous other Nissans and Infinitis (and a Jeep, and a WRX, and a few Kia/Hyundai). Hell, I just installed a $1600 lift kit on a 2012 Frontier last weekend for a neighbor I met the night before, rebuilt some LSDs for a 2000 Frontier last month, and just began restoring my very first Nissan, a 1998 Frontier that I bought new that year (which I started with by fixing a P1444 code that would prevent me from re-registering it...I can tell you again how I solved that problem, if you'd like). I even drove a brand new Infiniti QX60 the other week for work, which must make me an expert on QX60s now (my unsolicited opinion is that it's an annoying vehicle). Ever swapped an RB20DET into a 240SX and converted it to a 5MT, or figure how to put a rear mechanical locker into an R50 when one doesn't even exist for it, or confirm that you can do a rear disc swap on an R50 with OEM parts? Well, that's the sort of one-off tasks I solve. Does it matter for an emissions issue? No. Does it mean I can't solve an emissions problem? Certainly not.
We each bring our own experience and experiences. And, AFAIK, I have supported a few other comments from you on other topics. But, here, I do not believe to any extent that you have contributed to answering the original question, nor have you offered to help in any way. Your posts have, so far, come off as saying:
a) the OP doesn't understand the problem
b) I've wasted my time and money answering his question (yet totally solving my problem and saving money, amazingly)
c) we're shortcutting a repair process because that's not how you'd do it
d) Zimmermann makes quality aftermarket brake parts (yet frankly, I've never even heard of them).
I've said it before, and oddly only here on NICO...but if you don't have an answer, you don't
have to answer.
really nasty way to deal with someone that you don't agree with.
You may construe my posts any way you'd like. I could tell you exactly how to construe it, and you would still misconstrue it. But if I come off nasty, it's because you've provoked something nasty. Re-read your own subtle responses. I take offense when someone who hasn't demonstrated that he even understands the problem and clearly hasn't contributed to the conversation effectively tells me that my time and work is cheap and wasteful, simply because he doesn't agree with the way I did it.