overfenders

[Ls1pwr]

i searched and searched and could not find who makes these over fenders, i was also wondering what kind of wheels those are. i am no ricer, im swapping an Ls1 into my 92 coupe and need to run at the very least 275's out back or possibly 315's. thanks Ls1PwR

[EazyBreazy]

i believe those are JUN flares, not cheap, but very nice from what i've seen

here's some like them

http://phase2motorsports.store....html

[Ls1pwr]

thanks for the link, but those are different from the ones pictured. do you know anyone that sells the jun overfenders in the us? or where they sell those particular overfenders?? anyone?? HELP!!!

[Cameron]

Would Someone Please burn that Car?

[Nismo_Freak]

You putting anything bigger than a 275 isn't going to improve traction. The street rubber itself combined with the anti-squat will result in zero grip.

If you want grip, drop the rear gear down to a 3.6x and put in a real LSD with some 275's in a drag radial.

There simply isn't enough static weight in the car to make use of large tires in a straight line. Braking and cornering produce much higher G's which open the door to using wider tires.

[Ls1pwr]

if the width of tires didnt matter or help traction then the new z06 would have 205's instead of 325's out back.... if you take a 245/40/17 es100 for example and compare it to a 275/35/17 es100, which one do u think will have more traction? also i am setting this car up for road racing and i need traction everywhere not just in a straight line, so if you are not going to contribute to the thread please dont post in it. thanks

[Nismo_Freak]

if the width of tires didnt matter or help traction then the new z06 would have 205's instead of 325's out back.... if you take a 245/40/17 es100 for example and compare it to a 275/35/17 es100, which one do u think will have more traction? also i am setting this car up for road racing and i need traction everywhere not just in a straight line, so if you are not going to contribute to the thread please dont post in it. thanks

If you wanna be a smart guy I'll just pick you apart.

Those big wheels you want to run are going to greatly increase your unsprung mass which will decrease stability on a rough track, especially if you choose any of the off the shelf solutions to the 240SX in suspension.

They will also reduce the dynamic load placed on the tire due to an increase in track width, thus reducing the need for a wider tire since the dynamic load is shared more evenly over the two tires (laden / unladen).

Incredibly wide tires require alot of friction to generate heat. You will find that it will be hard to keep heat in the tires since the 240SX is such a light vehicle. Especially if you are on an open track and lack aerodynamic assistance, which at this point is a guarantee since you don't even understand balloon theory.

Wider tires and wheels that impart into the slipstream, and flares all GREATLY increase aerodynamic drag.

Running a wider wheel, especially one that requires a greater negative offset will affect your dynamic suspension geometry. The scrub radius causes the car to become very nervous, especially under braking. That's why modern race cars hold their contact patch inboard and maintain a relatively neutral scrub.

Your car is not a Z06. Your car with an LS1 is not a Z06. The Z06 has significant advantages over a 240SX in nearly every regard. That is quite possibly the most horrendous excuse for a lack of knowledge I have seen in a good while. It reflects your general lack of understanding on the entire subject.

If you want to build a race car that works worth a damn you might want to do some research and stop puffing your chest out at those that know something.

[driftfan420]

Dayuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum...... owned ,

[Ls1pwr]

1. i never said my car was a z06 or is going to be a z06. i used the z06 as an example of a car with wide tires and nothing more. i did not compare my suspension lay out, performance or anything else for that matter with a z06. i simply stated that if wider tires did not provide more traction, then everyone would be running very small tires and this is simply not the case.

2. the heat of the tires and the rate at which the tires heat up, has more to do with the compound and suspension set up then the width. Though generally speaking with tires this is the case, it is not in mine since i will be running kumho victoracers. these tires are designed for autocross and will heat up very fast even on a light car, and will work fine on the road courses the car will be seeing.

3. the aerodynamics really dont mean much to me, since the car will be run at smaller tracks and will rarely be above 110 mph even with the power to weight ratio of my car.

4. the car would only be twitchy under braking if i only increased my rear track width and did not increase the front, since the car will have similar spacing up front and at the minimum 275's this will not be the case.

i really appreciate your lack of general understanding of the question "who makes these overfenders and what kind of wheels are these?" i never asked for anything other then that. i dont not care nor want you to help me set my car up for road racing. if i wanted someone to help me set up my car i would ask someone far more knowledgeable then yourself, so please go and attempt to "pick apart" someone else.

[Nismo_Freak]

I guess if you want to ignore physics and engineering you are welcome to do so. Not my car after all.

[Ls1pwr]

thanks for not helping one bit i hope you feel intelligent after useing all those bigg badd words... hmm maybe i should just run 17x11's on all four courners with 315 Kumho Victoracers . that would be fun nice set up with some ccw wheels and spacers.... now were talking

[Nismo_Freak]

thanks for not helping one bit i hope you feel intelligent after useing all those bigg badd words... hmm maybe i should just run 17x11's on all four courners with 315 Kumho Victoracers . that would be fun nice set up with some ccw wheels and spacers.... now were talking

LOL, you'll be out there with your "hot" setup running slower than others just like every other numbnuts "tuner" I've known.

The SPL Z ran on narrower tires with a lesser compound in a heavier car and took high ranks in time attack. It wasn't because they thought big tires + light car + big motor was the way to go. It was because Kuah utilized his knowledge to develop aerodynamics, and a car built properly. He didn't have the big budget either.

I hope you win your HPDE's...

[Ls1pwr]

it will be faster then your little pos bmw. why do u keep replying to my thread, dont u have someones d!ck to suck??

[EazyBreazy]

wow dude, he actually with exception to his last post gave you very in depth information on the subject your asking about. Coming in here and thinking you know it all is stupid and to blow the information he's given you off like its useless is ludicrous. yes wider tires help SOME. No wider isnt always better. And even more so, wider than the optimum width will hinder performance more than it helps.

Good aerodynamics will work well at speeds of 60 and above so completely ignoring aerodynamics just factors out one of the ways you have of tuning your car to the way you want.

What he was saying in the first place even though it has nothing to do with "Who makes these flares" is that those flares and the wheels/tires necessary to fill them aren't the best thing you can do if you want to maximize the performance of the car. Which i would assume you do since your speaking about track time.

at any rate have fun with your car, it is after all yours

[Nismo_Freak]

it will be faster then your little pos bmw. why do u keep replying to my thread, dont u have someones d!ck to suck??

Will be, could be, should be, might be... until it is, it isn't.

I like your attitude, it should take you far in life.

[SlipnSliden 240]

To the op, they are a universal flare. A guy named widegts is selling them on zilvia.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=152678

Wheels are SSR koenig's 18x13 - 295/35 18 18x10.5 - 245/40 18

[Ls1pwr]

wow dude, he actually with exception to his last post gave you very in depth information on the subject your asking about. Coming in here and thinking you know it all is stupid and to blow the information he's given you off like its useless is ludicrous. yes wider tires help SOME. No wider isnt always better. And even more so, wider than the optimum width will hinder performance more than it helps.

the only thing i stated that i knew, was that wider tires of the same compound do actually help traction. this guy is the one that came in here acting like he knew everything and side tracked my thread.

Good aerodynamics will work well at speeds of 60 and above so completely ignoring aerodynamics just factors out one of the ways you have of tuning your car to the way you want.

the car is getting a complete undertray and rear diffuser, so im not worried about the aerodynamics at all. the effect that the wider tires and fender flares is negligible and the added traction will definately help more with track times.

What he was saying in the first place even though it has nothing to do with "Who makes these flares" is that those flares and the wheels/tires necessary to fill them aren't the best thing you can do if you want to maximize the performance of the car. Which i would assume you do since your speaking about track time.

u see i didnt ask what would help the performance of my car. all i wanted to know was what i originally asked.

at any rate have fun with your car, it is after all yours

thank you, i will. this car is already fun even with the ka24, i cant wait till the ls1 is in.

[Ls1pwr]

To the op, they are a universal flare. A guy named widegts is selling them on zilvia.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=152678

Wheels are SSR koenig's 18x13 - 295/35 18 18x10.5 - 245/40 18

thanks very much, that is exactly what i was looking for. oh and nice car by the way your coupe is very clean

[GoinTopless240]

You can also get the from https://www.rhdjapan.com/home/index.php. Look under the Silvia/S13 ... then look under exterior.. that's where I got them from... Nice looking pieces.. good luck..P.S. They are a sponsor here too.. nice to throw them some business... and not some guy on a competing site..lol.. Plus they are great to deal with..