Overboosted180s big project!

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These photos are of my car and of member Overboosted180s wicked CA. Power goal was set at 450whp, but I personally am looking past that. Since they entrusted in me to build the way I know, I'll make sure it exceeds his expectations. As for the Elantra, that's my everyday car, so please don't slam it because it's not a nissan. I actually got bored waiting on parts for his car, so I decided to break a front mount out from my garage and go to work. Enjoy guys................















































Intense.............................


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I like your Elantra. I had a 89 Mirage turbo with a swapped 2.0L and made it AWD. Sleepers Rule.

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Very nice Dee. We gotta catch up on some stuff some time man.

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What motor is in the Elantra, is it stock?

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I love it Dee! That's the first I've seen on the Elantra. I assume that means that it faired well after that little "incident"?

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float_6969 wrote:I love it Dee! That's the first I've seen on the Elantra. I assume that means that it faired well after that little "incident"?
Yeah man, I went to the junk yard, sawed a piece off another elantra match what I sawed off my car after the accident. My Body man welded it up and had the honors of assembling. Since I was waiting for Overboosted's camshafts, I needed something to do, so I broke-out the welder, sawz-all, markers, and the extra intercooler sitting in my garage and went to work.

The engine in the car is a 4G61T with a freshly redone 14b turbo, ported 2g eclipse manifold, Hyundai Elantra's engine harness reconfigured to Mitsubishi's ecu, a 1g eclipse AFM, 450cc injectors and a Galant VR-4 ecu is what makes this puppy go. I have a 2 litre that was originally in the car (Naturally Apirated), but it's been in the shop because it broke one of the ears off the block that allows the transmission to mate to the block. As soon as my machinist finishes it, the 4G61T is up fpr sale and back in with the freshly rebuilt 2litre.

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You port the head and manifold yourself? valve job?

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This is what I originally had in the car before the turbo motor swap. This is the 170hp Galant AMG 4G63. Pretty tuff engine and it made this elantra prtty bad on the street for what it was.



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I would like to say that that elantra is bad, im lovin it, i love it. ill be a hyundai guy till i die wish i still had mine man, good work, and nice pics on that ca, what turbo is he going with? I am always wondering how big of a turbo a ca could effectivly spool?-chris

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nissanic89 wrote:I would like to say that that elantra is bad, im lovin it, i love it. ill be a hyundai guy till i die wish i still had mine man, good work, and nice pics on that ca, what turbo is he going with? I am always wondering how big of a turbo a ca could effectivly spool?-chris
Yeah, I like the hyundais as well. As for the turbo being used, that is T3/T4 based 60-1. I forget the spec of the wheels, but this turbo spools very fast for a turbo of it's caliber. This is my old drag turbo that has seen many wheel combinations and this one was the best for the CA with a good manifold of course.

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You think you'll be able to hit your numbers with the stock intake manifold?

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c-rad wrote:You think you'll be able to hit your numbers with the stock intake manifold?
I think I should be able to obtain my goal plus more. I guess I'll have to show you better than I can tell you .

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Killer mani Dee! And your posting of your Elantra actually led to me convincing a co-worker of mine to look into a 4G63 for his Elantra while his 347cid is built for his '01 Trans Am

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rico05 wrote:Killer mani Dee! And your posting of your Elantra actually led to me convincing a co-worker of mine to look into a 4G63 for his Elantra while his 347cid is built for his '01 Trans Am
Thanks man! That exhaust manifold is a hot piece, but it should flow just as good as it looks. Both of these projects were fun as I had the time to do them the way I felt was best. The hyundai should be painted and impregnated with it's built 4G63T by month's end. Oveboosted180's project 240sx should be getting some ignition tomorrow. He can't wait to get his hands on his car and I can't wait to get it out of my driveway . And after going to the track today and watching 240s go down the track sorta half-@$$ and also watching a friend ours B13 SE-r beat-up some really nice cars, makes the both of us want to get out there and give it a try to. I'll get back with you guys after I get this puppy fired-up.

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Okay guys, you all probably been wondering what is up with this project, right! Well, the engine hit a couple of snags along the way, but it cranked right up on it's initial cranking. The engine has since been removed from the car, torn completely apart, repaired, reassembled, put back into the car, and now has over 140miles on the engine. An engine that's built right, should withstand some aggressiveness and am happy to say that 8psi of boost on a 60-1 with a .63 rear housing, the car is wicked. At 15psi, just a sheer blast, even though these are short bursts. The engine is responding well and feels extremely smooth; even with the camshafts, ported head, 1000cc injectors, and valve springs. Turbo is under full boost by 4200rpm, so the manifold is flowing extremely well. All in all, the car is street tuned without the use of an external equipment and still revs very clean.

So standby for some video of the car under load. We took it to Boca Raton which is around 40 something miles 1 way 2 days ago for it's maiden voyage and it performed very well. I have video of the car idling before it was torn apart, but that's kinda boring, so I'll just save the video and bring you guys the good stuff. Stay tuned!

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why was it torn apart, and why are you ragging on it before you break it in properly, if it was bored or machine work was done it needs to seat the rings, pistons vlave seats properly, 140 miles isnt broken in... good luck.

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Godo work Dee. Now make a housecall up here to Daytona and get my car running!

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CA19DET wrote:why was it torn apart, and why are you ragging on it before you break it in properly, if it was bored or machine work was done it needs to seat the rings, pistons vlave seats properly, 140 miles isnt broken in... good luck.
What is your reasoning behind this statement? How exactly do you define "breaking in" What exactly ARE you "breaking in"?

The reason I ask is because I followed a very different breakin procedure and it has yeilded me fantastic results. When I first fired my motor up, I let it idle up to NOT and got all of the air out of the system. I then capped the radiator, and beat on the motor for the next 10-20 min. I drove the car normally till 3rd, and then floored it to redline, left the car in gear, down shifted to 2nd, and then to 1st, engine breaking the entire time. I repeated this at least 6 or 7 times. I then drove the car around a local lake road and did as much engine loading (acclerating) and breaking (decellerating) as possible. I then brought the car home, let it cool off, changed the oil and the filter, and have driven it normally since.

It DID smoke pretty good on decel the first 2/3 times, but had quit entirely by the time I had done it the 5th time and has never burnt a drop of oil since. My compression is even and high across the board. The fact that the smoking on decel stopped after doing this tells me that I was TRUELY seating the rings.

If you'd like I can go into the logic behind this method. I would endevour you to think carefully about what you have HEARD about how to break in a motor and THINK about what is actually happening inside of it.

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CA19DET wrote:why was it torn apart, and why are you ragging on it before you break it in properly, if it was bored or machine work was done it needs to seat the rings, pistons vlave seats properly, 140 miles isnt broken in... good luck.
Ahhh, Aaron, I knew I'd get to hear from you on this one. You know, float is right about the "break-in" thing in the fact that you don't need to be a total twit during the young life of a freshly built engine. I know you have direct connection with a good engine builder (i've seen his work and saw his car perform), but it has been apparent that theory of breaking it in like you're going to drive it is the clear-cut way to do this. I think if it's built correctly, it should withstand whatever you thow at it.

As for the reason why I tore it down, low oil pressure. We put about 14miles on the car and the oil pressure was junk. I wasn't happy with the oil pressure, so I made the tentative decision to pull the motor back out, tear it down, check tolerances, mic the crank, and sent the whole engine to a different machine shop. The crank mic'd-out to be within spec, but the machine shop opted for a .010 cut as well as re-polished for a good fit. Had my friend's get me another pump, cleaned the bottom end and head, blasted all the oil galleys with compressed air, re-assembled motor, threw engine back in car, cranked car, and she fired right-up. Compression checked-in at a perfect 160psi per cylinder with no consumption of oil. The car runs good and it gets constant gear changes while on long commutes: 1st gear, 2nd gear, 3rd gear, 4th gear, 3rd gear, 4th gear, 3rd gear (You get the picture).

Ryan, your way is the way for me and that's why I practice that method. I got the strangest feeling that this car is going to be something to talk about in the near future. It drives around with a 60-1 blower spooling like it's ball bearing piece or something. And when you cut the car off, the blade just keeps on going for like 30-40 seconds. I still need him to ride it some more before we go to the dyno with it. The car revs extremely clean; even had a discussion with the SDS techs about the fuel #s I'm using and they don't even believe that the car is idling with those injectors. Anything is possible............

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thats about how i have always done the break in.and my father has always done that .thats where i learned it from and it has never done me wrong.

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Valley wrote:you mean something like this?

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
You nailed it!


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