Original camber settings?

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chaniong
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I just installed control arms on the rear. Does anyone know the original camber setting on the 92 240s?


gumby74
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According to my trusty Chilton, -1* range, -1/2* preferred setting.

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Brandon93240
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My hunter 511 says negative 1.1 with a tolerance of 1/2 degree. Camber in the 1.4-1.6 range gives great handling and rearend feedback just don't set the toe too crazy, around .16 total toe will give you a good ride and tire wear for a daily driver.

justjuiceit4
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I saw that my camber on the driver side rear was actually at zero, so I replaced the adjustment bolt and the special washer. The technician at Firestone said it still was not adjustable?! He said something like he would have to heat something up and it would cost $300!! I think I read something about slotting out something, but any ideas what is binding up?

As a side note, I got some adjustable tension rods, since there was a difference between the two sides. I brought it in and they changed nothing.... I told them it was adjustable and he just looked at me blankly.

Should I take to a professional alignment shop and send them the bill?

gumby74
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It's pretty obvious that jack *** does not know what he is doing, let alone talking about.Unless you are dropped lower than the average spring/shock combo, the stock eccentrics have enough adjustment to at least put you in spec.If you go back to that shop again at all, kick that "tech" in the nuts before you leave.

justjuiceit4
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I am running factory springs and KYB AGX shocks. I wish I could just be like....look I know what I want, I will sign a wavier, let me do it!

The real reason he probably did not make any adjustments is because I have a lifetime alignment warranty. I always decline the safety check, because I do not want these idiots telling me that I need $2200 worth of work on a $1000 car! Not only does it slow down getting out of there, but they FAIL to put stuff back on properly! There were all kinds of loose hose clamps for my mom's car.......they are the only people who touch it besides me.

Unfortunately, alignment is one of the few things that I can not do easily. I have seen some DIY stuff, but I trust a machine more than me!

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Brandon93240
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A previous owner probably cased it into a curb and the knuckle is bent down zeroing your camber. Get some adjustable upper control arms and you can set it to what you like. I wouldn't let those tards heat up or slot anything. With suspension a mistake can cost you and others their life, not worth being cheap or lazy in my book.

justjuiceit4
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I have read that you can use camber bolts like in the front. Will these work with the rear camber too?

Looking at the Nissan set-up, this looks like a better set-up. The threaded bolt with slots is kind of weird. How is it supposed to work?


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ALIGNMENT:-Front wheel alignment (unladen)(ie fuel, radiator and engine oil full withspare tire, jack, and tools.).....camber -1 degree 30' to 0 degree.....caster 6 degree 00' to 7 degree 30'.....toe in mm (in) 0.3 - 2.3 (0.012 - 0.091).....toe in degree 2' - 13' ( total toe in angle).....full turns inner wheel 39 degree - 43 degree.....full turns outer wheel 33 degree

-Rear wheel alignment (unladen) as above.....camber -1 degree 30' to -0 degree 36'.....toe in mm (in) 0.5- 4.5 (0.020- 0.177).....toe in degree 3' - 25' (total toe in angle)


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Brandon93240
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The bolts they sell for the front are eccentric bolts just like the rear, they just go about pushing in a different manner. The bolts for the front push on the knuckle to offset it with the strut. The back uses the grooved bolt and grooved washer to push against notchs in the subframe.

justjuiceit4
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Brandon93240 wrote:The bolts they sell for the front are eccentric bolts just like the rear, they just go about pushing in a different manner. The bolts for the front push on the knuckle to offset it with the strut. The back uses the grooved bolt and grooved washer to push against notchs in the subframe.
Is it possible that these notchs in the subframe have been grounded out? I know on the front you have to loosen the lower bolt to use the upper adjusting bolt. For the rear, do you have to loosen the lower bolt also? (if so, then this may be where the guys at the shop are screwing up) Can the eccentric bolts be used in the rear on the upper bolt instead of the grooved bolts? Or should I just use some eccentrics on the bottom bolts?

Thanks for you input!

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Brandon93240
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Someone would have to be a dumbass to do that. Alot of times the rear eccentrics get worn and don't make as much of an adjustment as they use to. The rear is different than the front. The bolts in the back only greatly adjust toe, if your looking into adjusting camber you need the adjustable upper control arms or get ready to redneck some ****.


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