Only 2 Gasolines Make the Cut

[atlanta_shooter]

Check out this link...very interesting!

http://www.toptiergas.com/index.html#

[1992Q45A]

I LOVE your quote

[Jesda]

Wow, thats a sadly short list.

ChevronQuikTrip

And neither are nearby.

[1992Q45A]

Quicktrip?

They have cheap gas 'round here...

Sweet

[Phax]

Bah,

I don't want detergent in my gasoline. I want dead dinosaurs, not chemical additives. I bet you that 116 octane racing fuel doesn't help automakers meet emission standards, but it sure makes my car run well.

[C-Kwik]

Bah,

I don't want detergent in my gasoline. I want dead dinosaurs, not chemical additives. I bet you that 116 octane racing fuel doesn't help automakers meet emission standards, but it sure makes my car run well.

Well I have no technical data to share on this, but if there is an issue with deposits from gasoline, over the long run, your car will run like crap. I've seen Arco gas leave terrible levels of deposits on my dad's old work van. He swore by Arco until he pulled his heads and say what was on his valves. He immediately stopped using Arco. Bear in mind my mom had pretty much the same car and never used Arco and it ran fine. In fact one time my dad had put Arco into my mom's car and immediately it started to diesel and sputter the first time we shut it down.

Now keep in mind this was more than 10 years ago so I don't know the quality of Arco's gas now. I'm still a skeptic and won't take chances on it. But the choice of gasoline can make a difference in the long run. If there is a very small difference in power, I'd trade off some performance for longevity.

[AngryRedTicTac]

I use Chevron exclusively in my Miata, it pings like mad on Arco and the like. My wifes Contour runs on Arco a disturbing amount of the time, but it sure acts happy any time I fuel it at Chevron. It idles better and doesn't have this annoying hesitation at lower RPMs after a couple of tanks. I am trying to convince her to stop doing this to the poor thing, the small increase it gets in gas mileage with the real gas doesn't quite cover the price difference, but it is really close, especially in the winter with its nasty gas. Even with the cooler temps I have to drop 2 degrees timing in the winter, at least until it drops below 40. Then the happy times start:D

[maxnix]

Couldn't find a list of all gasolines tested. Did anyone else find the list?

[AZhitman]

I use QuikTrip almost exclusively.

p.s. For the past 10 years we have run Arco (cheapest), and the inside of the heads on my Q is spotless - as in, ZERO MILES spotless.

[Jeff Williams]

I'll stick with my Chevorn station. IT has served me well.

[pito11213]

What about the big name gas stationsIn nyc we haveamoco aka bphess mobil

and some others but those are the ones that I use.

[Jesda]

Im inclined to trust Amoco/BP for their reputation. I've have some minor trouble with Phillips 66 gas.

[texasoil]

I keep advising folks--clean gasoline with advertised 'clean-up' or 'drive your engine clean' performance is the only way to go with Q45's--or any other engine. Shell has a new formulation that has demonstrated excellent clean-up performance.

If even one fuel injector fails (and it is the easiest to replace, figure say $250 minimum bill. If $0.10/gal is the 'premium' for the best gasoling, that's 2500 gal of fuel premium for a single injector. At 20 MPG, that's 50,000 miles of driving with cheap gas without any problems, and then a single injector failure, and the cheapest to replace, before you can hope of really saving money.

That is a very poor gamble. High quality gasoline, and more frequent oil changes, together with regular changes of antifreeze, brake fluid, power steering fluid, transmission fluid are the lowest cost way to drive.

[Falkdesigns]

If Amoco is BP, and you guys trust that, then nobody should dis-trust Arco, as it is also owned by BP. I agree with AZ, I ran Arco most of the time in my Si and my wife's Accord and both cars run great, never had any issues with them. However, there's a Chevron near our new place with pricing almost the same as Arco, so I've been only using Chevron now.

[louiegz]

I use Mobil or Sunoco 94. I wonder how good are those.

[rydwhite]

I use Sunoco 94 most the time.

[Falkdesigns]

I use Sunoco 94 most the time.

I hate you guys on the East Coast. Our best gas is 91

[texasoil]

You guys in Ca are so used to living in La-La land that when the piper wants to get some pay -you faint.

Los Angeles is a desert and water has to be piped in form 500 miles away! And yet water there is so heavily subsidized by the US taxpayer that it costs you a fraction of what treated (surplus)surface runoff water costs here in Houston.

When the South Coast Air Quality Management District starts allowing reasonable refinery operations there to feed the cars and trucks, then you can gripe. Meanwhile, better hope we folks here in Texas and Louisiana don't turn off the valves.

[VimyJ]

Octane is only added to meet detonation standards. We have 93 here in Illinois because of the ethanol added to gas. Pure gasoline doesn't need "extra" octane and apparently gas in your area of CA doesn't need the extra compressibilty that octane gives.

[Falkdesigns]

Ahhh, that's cool. 91 is the best in the whole state. You can get 100 race fuel at some Unocal 76 stations though.

[texasoil]

Although it is not strictly legal (road use tax not collected) , you can use '100 low lead' aviation gasoline for very high performance engines. The effective octane with normal max power fuel/air ratio is about 115. Under turbocharged conditions, it is a little higher.

[Jesda]

An old friend of mine (we go waaaay back) works for BP up in Alaska. Here's the text of a recent conversation on MSN:

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:get a job on the slope

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:we need you

Jesda - No highs, no lows. Sounds like Bose! says:sounds like an accident waiting to happen

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:SAFETY FIRST is BPs motto

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:I gotta wear safety glasses and gloves just to take a ****

Jesda - No highs, no lows. Sounds like Bose! says:hahahahha

Jesda - No highs, no lows. Sounds like Bose! says:BP gasoline rocks

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:when I vacumn the floor in the dining room, I have to wear this huge airplane style ear protectors

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:no it doesn't, it's all the same

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:only chevron refines it differently

Jesda - No highs, no lows. Sounds like Bose! says:what?

Jesda - No highs, no lows. Sounds like Bose! says:for real?

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:yeah, they work with the refineries in Lousiana

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:they all do

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:conocophillips

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:shell, veco, texaco

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:all of those ****ers..use the same refineries

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:cept chevron that moves it to detroit to get refined

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:that's why it's usually a few more cents per gallon, it's a higher octane

Jesda - No highs, no lows. Sounds like Bose! says:Oh

Jesda - No highs, no lows. Sounds like Bose! says:well I'll be

Jesda - No highs, no lows. Sounds like Bose! says:Im going to post that on the forum now...

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:can't **** with techron either

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:hahahahaha

Jesda - No highs, no lows. Sounds like Bose! says:Techron rocks my world.

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:now i'm i'm not SURE if they refine alaska oil in lousiana

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:I know they pump it to valdez and it get's refined, and pumped into big *** oil tankers...it takes as long as TWO DAYS to fill those mother****ers up

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:but mostly a full day I heard if things are running smoothly

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:our oil rig is small...we only pump out 55,000 barrels a day

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:and because russia and venezeul are **** faces, our boys have to work 16-18 hour shifts instead of 12 to pick up the slack

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:it isn't much more, but all the camps have to increase output

1 million man hours without a DAFWC! says:and it's only maybe a 5,000 barrels more a day tops

-Jesda

[VimyJ]

Alaskan oil destined for the States is refined primarily in Washington.

See what you can learn by reading the locked "Petro Energy" thread.

[texasoil]

ANS crude is refined in 3 Puget Sound Washingotn refineries, 3 or 4 SF Bay area refineries, and several in Los Angeles area. At one time, Goodyear built a heated pipeline to move it to Texas! (Never used for that service, lead to Goodyear's collapse.)Some ANS gets all the way to the Texas and Louisiana gulf coast refineries by tanker through the Panama canal.

[Bigrolla]

I always use shell gas. My cars ive had always seemed to run better with it than chevron. Also now i use the new shell v power gas which is 93 octane here. Ive never used anything other than shell in my 240 so i dont know what the diff is.

[BigBodyQ45]

I always use shell gas.

Did you have that problem a few months back that shell had that bad gas and had to buy everyone new gas tanks and fuel gauge systems? It was all over the news/papers for about a week. Not sure if that was nationwide or just in this area.

[Bigrolla]

not mentioned here as far as i know.