One Step too far? Palin takes on Michelle Obama

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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... irst-lady/


Without commenting on the actual substance of what she said, how smart is it to try to stirr up anger towards a woman who enjoys near 70% approval rating on both sides of the aisle?

i dunno, but it is slightly more grasping at straws than Palin ever did before, which says alot.

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Am I missing something or is this the whole article?

(CNN) – Former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin seemed to have the 2008 election – and, specifically, first lady Michelle Obama – on her mind during a speech at a conservative forum Thursday night.

"You know, when I hear people say, or had said during the campaign that they've never been proud of America, haven't they met anybody in uniform yet?" Palin opined during her remarks at a Liberty and Freedom Foundation forum in San Jose, California.

"I get tears in my eyes when I see that young man, that young woman, walking through the airport in uniform – you too – so proud to be American," Palin said to enthusiastic applause.

During her husband's presidential campaign, Michelle Obama sparked outrage among conservatives when she said at a campaign stop that, "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country, because it feels like hope is making a comeback… not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change."

After a media firestorm ensued, Obama sought to clarify her comments, saying, "What I was clearly talking about is that I am proud in how Americans are engaging in the political process. I mean everyone has said what I said, in that we haven't seen these record numbers of turnouts, people who are paying attention, going to rallies, watching debates."

"For the first time in my lifetime I am seeing people rolling up their sleeves in way that I haven't seen and really trying to figure this out, and that's the source of pride I was talking about," she continued.

The remarks nonetheless became a linchpin for conservative pundits, who accused Obama of being unpatriotic.

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thats what CNN had posted. other sites had more.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Palin say that shortly after that footage of Mrs. Obama came out?

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she said it again last night. per the article, which ill admit is a bit tricky with its wording. took me a while to figure out what its trying to say

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Palin?

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she said it again last night. per the article, which ill admit is a bit tricky with its wording. took me a while to figure out what its trying to say

Okay. Thanks for setting that straight because I remember Palin commenting on it WAYYY back.

So because Michelle is the First Lady she should be immune from attacks from outsiders? Is that what you're saying? Or should she just be immune from attacks from scum like Palin?

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Without commenting on the actual substance of what she said, how smart is it to try to stirr up anger towards a woman who enjoys near 70% approval rating on both sides of the aisle?

She blows the President.

Nothing more.

News flash: She's less relevant than Palin.

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she said it again last night. per the article, which ill admit is a bit tricky with its wording. took me a while to figure out what its trying to say

Okay. Thanks for setting that straight because I remember Palin commenting on it WAYYY back.

So because Michelle is the First Lady she should be immune from attacks from outsiders? Is that what you're saying? Or should she just be immune from attacks from scum like Palin?

i didnt say anything about her being immune. Palin is free to criticise. i just questioned the value of attacking a woman who is fairly popular amongst people on both ends of the political spectrum and across gender demographics. If you want to criticise, bring an actual argument.

its a cheap dig which plays to palin's fan base.

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News flash: She's less relevant than Palin.

of course not, she isnt exploiting her family at every turn to the aid of her political career.

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i just questioned the value of attacking a woman who is fairly popular amongst people on both ends of the political spectrum and across gender demographics.

Actually, you said something a little different.

The thing is, consider how that polling would go:

"So, what do you think of MO?"

Left: "She's an amazing woman, a great role model, she inspires me, she's so strong and courageous and she's just so dreamy in her smart attire!" <checks APPROVE>

Right: "It's poor form to criticize the spouse or family of the POTUS. She seems to be a good person." <checks APPROVE>

The "approval rating" for a First Lady is meaningless.

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News flash: She's less relevant than Palin.

of course not, she isnt exploiting her family at every turn to the aid of her political career.

Subtract the partisanship and you'll understand what I'm saying.

She's less relevant. As in, she's irrelevant.

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sounds a bit conspiracy theory ish Greg. i honestly dont remember the last time anyone actually had an issue with a first lady, save for hillary, and even then, that was only up til 94.

can you name one first lady that drew national ire other than hillary? im not saying she is immune, im just saying why attack a woman who is generally liked? It makes one sound petulent.

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thats only if what i was saying was untrue. its a known fact that the vast majority of her career has been based off her family and its infamy.

a husband who is a vocal member of a sepratist movement

a daughter who was pregnant while her mother was championing family values

a mentally handicapped son

and a former son in law who modeled for playgirl.

go ahead and blame the main stream media, but its not like she has tried her hardest to hide her family from the eyes of the camera. that is unless we werent supposed to see Bristol on Dancing with the stars.

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i honestly dont remember the last time anyone actually had an issue with a first lady

Exactly my point.

The "70%" is a useless number.

why atttack a woman who is generally liked? It makes one sound petulent.

"Liked" is different from ""not disliked" / "indifferent". She's the latter, not the former.

And is "petulant" worse than "unpatriotic"? She said something stupid. Someone pointed it out. No biggie.

Besides, she should have been baking cookies, not speaking to the press.

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i honestly dont remember the last time anyone actually had an issue with a first lady

Exactly my point.

The "70%" is a useless number.

why atttack a woman who is generally liked? It makes one sound petulent.

"Liked" is different from ""not disliked" / "indifferent". She's the latter, not the former.

And is "petulant" worse than "unpatriotic"? She said something stupid. Someone pointed it out. No biggie.

Besides, she should have been baking cookies, not speaking to the press.

she wasnt pregnant at the time. Barry Obamz wasnt doing his job properly. A shocker to you, I know

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its a known fact that the vast majority of her career has been based off her family and its infamy.

I think you're getting carts and horses all mixed up. She was a politician before you (or most of America) knew her family. Seriously, you don't have to like her position, but you're stretching - her career hasn't been "based off her family". That's the Ativan talking.

its not like she has tried her hardest to hide her family from the eyes of the camera

LOL - I hope you never go into politics... You'll see how easy it is to "hide" anything. My next door neighbors are from SP's town (they split time between Wasilla and here)... the media paralyzed that place after she was announced as J-Mac's RM. It was a madhouse - more press than residents.

I don't think she paraded anyone before the cameras - Those of you who read the tabloids were the ones generating interest in her family. Follow the money, yo.

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she wasnt pregnant at the time. Barry Obamz wasnt doing his job properly. A shocker to you, I know

If she'da been white, she'da stayed knocked up fo sho.

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on a side note, im sorry, but i have to say, i really have to take issue with the position that you seem to have taken that she was unpatriotic. Since when was criticism unpatriotic? if anything, its the most patriotic thing you can do. Why? Because when you criticize you point out flaws, in order for some sort of fix to be implemented. Did we not criticize the King of England, back way back when? I believe those criticisms were called the Declaration of Independence.

im being 100% serious. i honestly take great issue that what she said was "Unamerican." We live in this great country. If people are not allowed to criticize the state, then the blood of all those soldiers will have been spilt for nothing. She did not propgate hate speech, which is something that can't be said of great patriots like Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Glenn Beck, and Rush Limbaugh. If michelle Obama is unamerican, then neither am i.

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That's the Ativan talking.

yum.

its not like she has tried her hardest to hide her family from the eyes of the camera

LOL - I hope you never go into politics... You'll see how easy it is to "hide" anything. My next door neighbors are from SP's town (they split time between Wasilla and here)... the media paralyzed that place after she was announced as J-Mac's RM. It was a madhouse - more press than residents.

I don't think she paraded anyone before the cameras - Those of you who read the tabloids were the ones generating interest in her family. Follow the money, yo.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/200 ... _pregnant/


So this is what privacy looks like.

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That was heartwarming. *sniff*

Here's the difference: I'm proud of my country, regardless of its flaws. So are those other patriots.

MO said, "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country" . That's VERY different.

In other words, "Up until this point, I have been ashamed to be an American." Right? Right.

Misinterpreted? Maybe. Maybe not.

Doesn't help that she qualified that statement by pointing out that she's "proud" of her country only now that it's accepted her hubby as its leader. The perception is that it may have been kind of a "Finally, you knuckleheads see it my way" type moment for her, which doesn't sit well with folks.

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folks huh.

you forget that she was born into a country where she had to use colored faucets...

its a bit of a difference from the america you grew up with.

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So this is what privacy looks like.

Dude, you're delusional.

I can show you pics of every politician since the camera was invented, standing in front of an adoring crowd, with their family members. What's your point?

I think you just wanna see her naked. It's ok, I kinda do too.

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That was heartwarming. *sniff*

Here's the difference: I'm proud of my country, regardless of its flaws. So are those other patriots.

MO said, "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country" . That's VERY different.

In other words, "Up until this point, I have been ashamed to be an American." Right? Right.

Misinterpreted? Maybe. Maybe not.

Doesn't help that she qualified that statement by pointing out that she's "proud" of her country only now that it's accepted her hubby as its leader. The perception is that it may have been kind of a "Finally, you knuckleheads see it my way" type moment for her, which doesn't sit well with folks.

careful, im a heart breaker.

and soon, maybe a heart fixer.

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you forget that she was born into a country where she had to use colored faucets...

its a bit of a difference from the america you grew up with.

Yeah. That kept her down.

Besides, if you buy that tearjerker story, then you suck at math. She's not that old.

Perhaps she'd prefer to be born in her ancestral country of origin. She might be eating gruel out of a sheep's bladder in a mud hut.

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So this is what privacy looks like.

Dude, you're delusional.

I can show you pics of every politician since the camera was invented, standing in front of an adoring crowd, with their family members. What's your point?

I think you just wanna see her naked. It's ok, I kinda do too.

look, all im saying is that she plays the privacy victim card, yet she missed no opportunities to put her family in front of the camera. this isnt some voyeur picture, this is a picture as the caption in the link says, of bristol holding trigg at a campaign rally in ohio.

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you forget that she was born into a country where she had to use colored faucets...

its a bit of a difference from the america you grew up with.

Yeah. That kept her down.

Besides, if you buy that tearjerker story, then you suck at math. She's not that old.

Perhaps she'd prefer to be born in her ancestral country of origin. She might be eating gruel out of a sheep's bladder in a mud hut.

she was born in 64.

she is as old as my mom. civil rights was passed in the same year, but that doesnt mean cultural acceptance.

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look, all im saying is that she plays the privacy victim card, yet she missed no opportunities to put her family in front of the camera. this isnt some voyeur picture, this is a picture as the caption in the link says, of bristol holding trigg at a campaign rally in ohio.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. We're not talking about SP's privacy. You and the OP need to get on the same page. Oh, wait.

You bagged on SP for dissing MO, who said something retarded. MO don't need "Massa" defending her honor, she's a strong, independent woman. When that fell apart, you switched gears and made this about SP's family. But like I said, ALL pols show up with their families at campaign events. Why should SP be any different?

The REAL kicker here: You actually know the kids' names? Dude. You're, like, a stalker.

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i blame facebook.

and the jews.

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