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Im quite sure many of you have heard about the captured American that was beheaded. When I heard about it on the news I said "That's ****ed up," but it wasnt like it would be on my mind when I woke up in the morning. Im also pretty sure that many of you know that the video of his brutal killing is on the web for viewing. Well it was last period in school, about 20 minutes before the bell rang. My Natural Disasters class is held in one of the computer labs. Well while everone was either working or pretending to work on their projects, one of my friends found a site with that video on it and watched the video with the two girls that were next to him. Even they were right next to me I wasnt aware of what they were watching. Then they started to talk about it, but I just assumed that he showed them pictures of the diseases he was doing his project on. So I went over to him and asked what they were looking that. Then they told me. I was like WTF!? I kinda didnt want to see it, but I decided that the two girls with weak stomachs can watch it so can I. He didnt want to play it again, we went to another computer near me and got 6 people including me and one of the girls to load it up while the teacher was helping another student. The video played and it started with the masked men talking behind the guy, who was handcuffed and on his knees. I wish I knew what they were saying, but there were no subtitles. Anyway, after a couple of minutes it began. They threw him to the floor and began to decapitate him with a knife. He was screaming until he died. Even after that they kept sawing at his neck with the knife wile pulling his hair. Eventually they cut all the way through and held his head up where the camera could see it. The look on his face was horrifying. Then either the video ended or my friend just hit the X, but I cant remember. We were all in shock esppecially the girl that gave us the web address because that was the second time she saw it within 10 minutes. It still pains me just to think about it. It was only the night before that I told my mother that I wanted to see it, not knowing the horror I was in store for. My heart is beating rapidly as I type this, but I had to vent. I didnt tell my parents yet and Im not sure if I will anytime soon. I just want to forget it all, but I know that is not going to happen. I will also say that in spite of this, nobody should hate the natives of the Middle East. Not all of them are savages like these people. So now I will end this long post. My heart goes out to all the families of the men and women over seas, especially the family of that poor man. Live life the best you can cuz our time may be up at any time.

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I saw it...senseless act by absolute dumbasses.

Its sad that I've been desensitized to the point where it didn't phase me as much as I thought it would though...

Edit: And to tell you the truth, when I saw that he was being beheaded, I didn't think it would be something of torture. I mean, when I think beheading I think guillotine, not swiss army knife.

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When Hezbullah condemns it for being disgusting and inhuman, you know its gonna be bad.

I had it, but watched until they threw him down, and I realized i had no desire to watch a man's life end.

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hezbolla condemned it? really was it in the papers? I didn't see it

well I could see that, hezebollah is only concerned with israel/palestine

I haven't seen it as of yet, and don't particularily want to.

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No, no you don't. That was horrible in every aspect of the word.

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Quote »Its sad that I've been desensitized to the point where it didn't phase me as much as I thought it would though...[/quote]Same here, ive been wayy desensitized with the video's ive seen being an internet geek. Are they sure its real, I didn't know a head could be chopped off that easily with all the spinal cord and muscles in there. Sorry if this offends anyone, it's not meant to.

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The thing is that they kept sawing at it. It wasnt easy for them, but they dug pretty hard. As of right now it still affects me even though Im desensitized as well. I have seen countless amounts of torture and killing with a large variety of weapons in movies and cartoons. The only reason that it's having any effect on me is because this man was real. Nothing I have ever seen has amounted to this. Now when I told my other friends and classmates how I felt, most of them couldnt believe how I was not affected like everyone else. I love weapons of all kinds, but that was some hard core ****. Its sad though if you really think about it. I and many others are at the point where this stuff doesnt affect us too much. Im the only one of my friends that I know of that are like this. Some of them think Im crazy and I dont blame them even though they are wrong.

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Toahk didn't mean in movies and cartoons, there are videos of people dying and being tortured online. There's a black and white one of this russian guy cutting off a guys head with a knife, but it's even worse. It's pretty bad what happened, but there are a lot sicker videos on the internet. :(

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Just a question for the people who've seen it.

Have any of you ever watched any of the Faces of death/ Banned from TV videos? I have, and I would like to think that having seen so many disgusting things, I would be able to watch it without too much care.

Not that Im proud of that... but yeah.

I havent seen it yet, and I have no desire to. Im just wondering if theres something ESPESCIALLY terrible about this, when Ive seen people hit by trains, rolled over by cars, shot in the chest/ head, etc.

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stray wrote:Just a question for the people who've seen it.

Have any of you ever watched any of the Faces of death/ Banned from TV videos? I have, and I would like to think that having seen so many disgusting things, I would be able to watch it without too much care.

Not that Im proud of that... but yeah.

I havent seen it yet, and I have no desire to. Im just wondering if theres something ESPESCIALLY terrible about this, when Ive seen people hit by trains, rolled over by cars, shot in the chest/ head, etc.


Yeah i was talking about the faces of death videos. There's one of a guy getting his arms ripped off by two jeeps, i haven't watched it, but i've heard from friends.

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Worse one I saw was the guys tied to the four horses. I never knew what drawn and quartered meant. All for not paying 20 dollars in tax in the old USSR. Faces of death IV.

I didnt watch the poor guy getting beheaded. I feel for his family. We should nuke what ever town or city they were in. And do that every time they do something like this. They will figure out we can kill more of them than they can of us.

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leftovercrizack wrote:Toahk didn't mean in movies and cartoons, there are videos of people dying and being tortured online. There's a black and white one of this russian guy cutting off a guys head with a knife, but it's even worse. It's pretty bad what happened, but there are a lot sicker videos on the internet. :(


Oh Im very aware of those videos, but I never paid much attention to them due to their content. Ive seen a couple things here and there, but I try to stay away from it. I was just saying that just by watching movies/documentaries, Anime, and I forgot to add video games like Manhunt I have greatly decreased the amount of sensitivity I have for things whether real of fake. It's like a drug. If you do enough of it, you build a tolerance to it and you wont really be affected much until you see something worse. Granted the real will always have more impact, but its still sad. Ya know what I mean?

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Quote »Im just wondering if theres something ESPESCIALLY terrible about this, when Ive seen people hit by trains, rolled over by cars, shot in the chest/ head, etc.[/quote]I think the only thing that makes this one different is that it hits so close to home. It's not any worse than any other you have probably seen. Most the faces of death, killing and other vid's I have seen are from third world countries happening to other cultures/people where this is their means of punishment, and I guess we have the mentality not to care because its not one of "us" dieing or being tortured.

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I agree.

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All I can say....is :(

Let's make sure this thread stays away from the political aspect of this event.

As a guy who's a little older, I feel sad when i think of some of the stuff you guys have been exposed to and viewed in your young lives because of the 'Net. I pray for all my NICO bro's daily.

Be safe out there and don't let the sick stuff of the world make you ctynical - There's a lot more good than bad out there. :)

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i'm still interested to see the video, i am yet to have seen it but i'm very curious now...from what i hear it's terrible...but i kinda want to witness it first hand

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Curiousity killed the cat... or in this case, your youth.

I saw one of those faces of death videos.. and I decided that I didn't want to adulterate my mind with that junk. I'd rather be ignorant and pure-minded than see the kind of **** that goes on in the world.

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MainEvent212 wrote:i'm still interested to see the video, i am yet to have seen it but i'm very curious now...from what i hear it's terrible...but i kinda want to witness it first hand


yeah i was the same way, i saw it and wish i didnt. i mean i have seen far worse things on the internet but man this one hit home. i closed the vid before they got it all the way off i just didnt want to see it. i dont understand how another human being could cut a fuggin head off of someone else. its just horrible. just dont watch it. take my word for it.

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Yea I also advise you not to watch it. I sure as hell does hit home. I really wish I hadn't seen it at all. Ive basically gotten over it now, but the image of them removing the head and holding it up in front of the camera does run across my mind from time to time. I hate it, but I made the choice to watch it. I just gotta cope with it.

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crzycav86 wrote:Curiousity killed the cat... or in this case, your youth.

I saw one of those faces of death videos.. and I decided that I didn't want to adulterate my mind with that junk. I'd rather be ignorant and pure-minded than see the kind of **** that goes on in the world.


Quite possibly one of the most insightful and mature things i've read in my 2+ years at NICO.

Protect your minds just like you (hopefully) protect your bodies.

Good stuff, cav.

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I HATE seeing gruesome things. They give me nightmares. The media ensured that I had to see this one though.

They kept playing it to the point where the guy draws the knife, and my mind was creating disturbing endings that were making me very uneasy.

I know this might sound wierd, but I had to see the ending to get closure.

Thank God it was quicker than my imagination was making it out to be.

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I've seen some bad things on the internet, but none of the Faces of Death videos that have been brought up in this thread. But, when I saw the news playing parts of the video on air (with the man on his knees and the terrorlst drawing the knife), I just got a sick feeling in my stomach, cause although I didn't see it, I've seen enough violent images in my life to visualize what it must have been like. I don't want to see the video, but perhaps it would be good to see it. Kind of like to build worldly awareness, or something. Although everyone would prefer to be ignorant and save themselves the gruesome images of this murder, its things like this that would only make us stronger, as an individual and as a society, in the end. Its things like this that kinda make you think about the things you take for granted, and I'm just glad that 99.3% of the people in the world are good, and would never take a man's life like the extremists in the Middle East. I guess what I just said was pretty cliche'd, preachy, sporadic and somewhat redundant, but...I don't know. I can at least say that I feel just as everyone else here on the boards, and my most sincere condolences go out to the families affected as well. Little by little, I know that us as a society are progressing day by day, so that I'm sure one day, needless deaths like this will be a thing of the past. In the words of the great Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., "I have seen the top of the mountain, and it is good", or something like that.

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death to american christians dogs. if you are not a muslim then this will most likey be your fate.i have been to that part of the world and thay will stabe you in the back the first chance thay get.the new tell you that thay are pice loveing . most of the one here in the u.s. are grate people. i know a few here in town.thay dont like us and that will never change.o thay like that dollar. but if they had to choose the dollar or blow you up . they blow you up. my point when i was thair i watch a 3 year old girl die just becouse she was not a muslim. lets do what it takes to stop them.

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I think it comes down to common sense on the whole "Protect your mind like you protect your body" issue.

You have every right to see those videos if you want to. But you shouldnt see them because they are so disturbing.

But in this case.... I think its better that people have access to it. As has been said before, it hits close to home. Some people dont need to see it to know how disgusting it is, but some people do.

In the interest of good journalism and reporting the WHOLE story, it needs to be out there, regardless of who may see it.

That doesnt mean you SHOULD go out and see it, but it does mean that you should be able to if you want to or feel you need to.

As for the media cramming the video down your throat all day, change the channel.

Even better, turn the TV off and read a book or go for a drive or listen to the radio. Dont blame the media for what they give you access to, when you could just as easily decide not to watch.

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Hurrikane wrote:death to american christians dogs. if you are not a muslim then this will most likey be your fate.i have been to that part of the world and thay will stabe you in the back the first chance thay get.the new tell you that thay are pice loveing . most of the one here in the u.s. are grate people. i know a few here in town.thay dont like us and that will never change.o thay like that dollar. but if they had to choose the dollar or blow you up . they blow you up. my point when i was thair i watch a 3 year old girl die just becouse she was not a muslim. lets do what it takes to stop them.


Werd.

My family comes from a bad history dealing with muslims. American muslims may say that their religion is peace-promoting, but how can that be? In their daily prayer(the one they're supposed to pray 5 times a day), the very end translates something like this: ...make us not like those who have gone astray[refering to the christians], and make us not like those who you are angry with[refering to the jews]. Now, wouldn't the prayer be much better if they actually PRAYED for the christians and jews, rather than pray for themselves so that they don't become like us? The Qu'ran also blatantly states how force should be used to take over a country and instill Islam. Their holy book also has some contradictions.... /end rant

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Well, to defend the people of the Islamic faith a bit...(I'm personally not Islamic), if you look through history, Muslims have had less than great experiences with Christians and Jews...whether it be the Crusades, relocation of Jews to Israel, etc...So it is a bit understandable for Muslims to be a bit ticked off by people of Christian and Jewish faiths. It doesn't justify the actions of the radicals in the Middle East, but you can't just say that all of Islam is a violent, evil religion. From what I know, Islam does promote peace, and I guess that is an interesting quote that you got there from the Koran crzycav86...but lets try and stay away from those kind of things...I'm not sure of the mods necessarily appreciate us getting any deeper into this.

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politics and religion are the sewers of human civilization

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Healing wrote:I'm not sure of the mods necessarily appreciate us getting any deeper into this.


Correct.

Thanks guys - back to the original topic. :)


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