One month with an Electric Car.

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OriginalWheelman
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Well I've had the Focus for about a month now. It's been a great car. Though I'd share my thoughts on living with it.

1. I've never been in a situation where a lack of charge has prevented me from going anywhere.

I'm a good planner and we don't go too far out of town. If I know I've got a lot of driving to do, I charge it up. I drove around town to pawn shops / Goodwill all day Monday looking for a bike. (I found it Tuesday) I still only used half a charge on 70 miles. The stop and go traffic isn't better for economy, but with goo regen braking habits it isn't much worse.

2. A car that doesn't shift has a lot of advantages.

I literally never have to shift, and I'm always in the powerband. Around town it's great, and the acceleration is smooth, predicable, and dependable. I don't wait for a downshift to pass, even one I do myself. I don't have to upshift to get back into the powerband. It's just nice. The power is always there.

3. Regen braking feels just like engine braking.

It pretty much is. The engine switches to a generator, and charges the battery. If you don't know a motor can switch to a generator, don't ask. It's magic. :crazy: Not really, but the regen braking is really easy to get used to. Also, since it never has to downshift, I can engine brake all the way down from 55 to 0. My real brakes grind from the rust that is forming on them.

4. I get about 20% of my miles back on any given trip.

The car tracks Miles Traveled / Regen Miles / Braking Score for each trip, and a lifetime average. I don't watch the meter anymore and I get 95-100% of possible regen. So free fuel! I'd love to see a gas car do that.

5. I lust after Tesla's supercharger network.

20 mins to fill a Tesla. I can't even plug into the thing. Soon™

6. This is a car community, just a kinda weird one.

Everyone in it is very nice to each other. They talk about their cars, the differences, the similarities. There isn't any real cross brand hate. Although, the pure electrics like to lol at the hybrids for obvious reasons. People share the chargers at Pam's office. They have a mailing list, and share their emails and phone numbers. They even hang signs in their windows that say "You can unplug me after XX:XX time. It's kinda nice.

7. Low Rolling resistance means no traction.

I waste more watts spinning these s*** tires than they save me. And they have the added bonus of making the ABS freak out when one hits a wet manhole cover. That's an issue when you live in Portland, OR... These things have to go. They are my biggest gripe about the car.

8. It's so damned quiet.

I can't drive with the windows up. All you hear is tire and road droning. You can have a quiet chat at 50 on good pavement. Kids don't see it at all. I'm constantly looking for pedestrians and bicyclists. Around here they are pretty good about it. There are a lot of electric cars.

9. Other than that it's a Focus, and that's good.

I draw no attention. People are always surprised when I zip past them and there is no noise. A slammed civic with a fart can in the left lane tried to dart in front of me to make a right as we were taking off from a light. He made his turn from behind me, with a very,very confused look on his face.

10. I hope Ford is getting my telemetry.

Cause I'm going to make some engineers laugh. If you attempt to correct for oversteer the thrust vectoring shifts power to the inside wheel as though you are turning, even with small wheel movements. Without correction, the thrust vectoring makes powering through a corner not only possible, but quite easy. It does however require 0 correction because of how sensitive the torque vectoring is. I'm getting it down. It's a bit of a change from my last daily.


All in all I'm very happy with the car. I enjoy driving it. It's a fun little sleeper. Well maybe a napper. It's not that fast, well, you get my point. Thanks for reading. :)

*I found the bike Tuesday at a used bike store.
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darylzero
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Sounds like you charge it at your wife's office the most. I would like to know how much your electric bill changes.

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Holy crap, $99 for that old Klein?
Seems steep. Then again, Portland.

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OriginalWheelman
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darylzero wrote:Sounds like you charge it at your wife's office the most. I would like to know how much your electric bill changes.
We've actually been charging it at home. It's not a big deal to charge ti on the 110. Last month the heatwave broke and we stopped using the AC everyday, so it's hard to judge. But the electric bill still went down.
PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:Holy crap, $99 for that old Klein?
Seems steep. Then again, Portland.
Just the frames go for $300-500 on Craigslist here. I was excited to get that for $99 so I didn't have to ride a Mongoose.

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Nothing wrong with old Mongoose.
When did they sell out? ~2003?

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OriginalWheelman
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Yeah I meant a new one lol. They're like $100 Walmart specials now. Haven't seen an old one in a long time. My crappy Magna 20 that some old woman at a yard sale made me take has 1 mongoose wheel on it, does that count?

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Ha. Certainly not.
I used to have an 01 Mongoose Villain. That damn thing was indestructible.

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Good read. The wife's next vehicle will most likely be a Tesla...

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nchopp wrote:Good read. The wife's next vehicle will most likely be a Tesla...
If I could afford one. We would own it. Ironically, the Focus payment + her student loans is enough to pay for it. -.-

Got the tires on the Redline and did 3.5 miles. 3 on road 3 off. Feels great. I missed this.

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Oh s***, that's a redline? It looked like Klein to me (it wont let me zoom in for some reason).

Btw, your math doesn't add up.

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.5 off lol

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OriginalWheelman wrote: Got the tires on the Redline and did 3.5 miles. 3 on road 3 off.
OriginalWheelman wrote:.5 off lol
3 on road + 3 off road = 6 miles :facepalm:

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OriginalWheelman
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Hey I was tired. Long day. 3 on, .5 off = 3.5 .

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If I could afford one, I would quite happily rock a Tesla. My daily communte is only about 15 miles each way, and most of my driving is within 100 miles easily. A full tank in the LS8 is about 340 miles if I'm driving like normal (i.e. maximizing available torque vs mpg) which is good for ~2 weeks of everyday driving, so Tesla range is fine for that.

However, I do make regular 500 mile round trips to Idaho and I could not confidently do that in a Tesla without stopping to charge. 250 miles is not a long drive at 80, so I really prefer to make the trip without stopping. Having to stop to charge would be a real killer, even with a supercharger available at the most ideal locations (start, end, midpoint). The LS8 would probably make the round trip on a single tank (since I gain an easy 8+ mpg on the highway vs mixed conditions), though I've never dared try since it would be close--but the point is a quick refuel of less than half a tank before the return trip is far more convenient than having to stop for ~40+ minutes each way assuming you departed fully charged in the first place.

All that noted, I really have the same basic requirements of electric cars that I have of gasoline cars, though:
RWD (I would make an exception for electric AWD)
Real suspension
4 doors
Not tiny
Not cheap

So the Focus, leaf, and every other converted compact is out for the same reasons their gasoline originators are out. Not enough car.
As soon as somebody builds a Q45/LS/STS caliber electric sedan and it's old enough to depreciate enough that I'm willing to pay what it's worth, I'll buy an electric. Until then, they're not really an option.

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OriginalWheelman
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They just put a 10 Tesla superchargers in Boise, and 10 more in Twin Falls. 20 mins to charge. I spend more than that messing around at a truck stop anyways.

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Wrong side of the state for me, unfortunately.

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I'd buy a Tesla Roadster.


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