omg!!!! why do these look different?! driveshaft abs-non abs

[costa_rican13]

so i got a an abs driveshaft from a local guy for my abs j30 dif i swapped in and well the part of the shaft that slides into the transmission, looks quiet abit different from the one my car which is non abs... can someone tell me why they are different?? or if its ok and to just stick the abs one on.
this is the one on my car.

this is the "new" abs one.

[srraptor]

not sure whats different about them but according to driveshaft shop an abs driveshaft wont work on a non abs car, idk if maybe the diff is a little closer to the front or maybe the transmission is a little bit longer. i do know that when i ordered my driveshaft it was a big deal on wether it had abs or not.

[costa_rican13]

not sure whats different about them but according to driveshaft shop an abs driveshaft wont work on a non abs car, idk if maybe the diff is a little closer to the front or maybe the transmission is a little bit longer. i do know that when i ordered my driveshaft it was a big deal on wether it had abs or not.

its for my j30 dif i swapped in but i more concerned about why the abs shaft part that slides into the transmission is different than the one my car now

[srraptor]

let me look at mine and ill see what i can figure out

[OutToWinPAHC]

swap the front sections, there rear half is the shorter section.

[costa_rican13]

swap the front sections, there rear half is the shorter section.

would i make a difference if the shaft was automatic? cause i just found out from the guy that sold it to me that it was automatic. and he knew it was to. but didnt mind not telling me. would i still be able to swap the rear sections??

[costa_rican13]

nobody know??

[OutToWinPAHC]

Auto and manual are different, but I think its only the front half. Try just using the new shorter rear section with your old 5 speed front section.

[costa_rican13]

Auto and manual are different, but I think its only the front half. Try just using the new shorter rear section with your old 5 speed front section.

ok so i did that. and it still feels as if there was no change in the feeling of everything bolted up. like it was just as tight and snug as before with the old rear section.

[Dittoz7]

So it worked? Why where you swapping out the drives haft in the first place?

[costa_rican13]

So it worked? Why where you swapping out the drives haft in the first place?

yes but it was just as easy of a fit as my shaft was before i changed anything. it almost as if the parts were identical and didnt change the shaft length at all. cause i put it on as easily as i took the original shaft off. idk what the deal is. but reason for me changing shafts was because my j30 dif is an ABS UNIT. so it supposed to mean i need the ABS shaft as well. which i find this not to be true. or well in my case. but i also dont know what and abs shaft feels like when its all bolted up. i mean like how snug and how much play is in the shaft.

[CA18Magic]

So it worked? Why where you swapping out the drives haft in the first place?

yes but it was just as easy of a fit as my shaft was before i changed anything. it almost as if the parts were identical and didnt change the shaft length at all. cause i put it on as easily as i took the original shaft off. idk what the deal is. but reason for me changing shafts was because my j30 dif is an ABS UNIT. so it supposed to mean i need the ABS shaft as well. which i find this not to be true. or well in my case. but i also dont know what and abs shaft feels like when its all bolted up. i mean like how snug and how much play is in the shaft.

The reason why you need an ABS shaft is because it is slightly shorter than a non abs shaft. And since the J30 diff is about 1/4 inch closer forward, the shorter shaft (by also about 1/4 inch) works perfectly.

Just as a clarification, the difference between an auto or manual drive shaft is not necessarily the length... or where the center joint bolts up. Its the inner teeth that dont match up when mated to the transmission.

As for the feel of the abs driveshaft, well it feels identical. Wouldnt really be able to tell. I have the same setup on my RB s13. The reason for the high strength rubber material on the ABS shaft is for the rapid cease and continuation when ABS is engaged. A slight play so the shaft itself doesnt break.

Just my 2 cents..

[costa_rican13]

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The reason why you need an ABS shaft is because it is slightly shorter than a non abs shaft. And since the J30 diff is about 1/4 inch closer forward, the shorter shaft (by also about 1/4 inch) works perfectly.

Just as a clarification, the difference between an auto or manual drive shaft is not necessarily the length... or where the center joint bolts up. Its the inner teeth that dont match up when mated to the transmission.

As for the feel of the abs driveshaft, well it feels identical. Wouldnt really be able to tell. I have the same setup on my RB s13. The reason for the high strength rubber material on the ABS shaft is for the rapid cease and continuation when ABS is engaged. A slight play so the shaft itself doesnt break.

Just my 2 cents.. [/quote]


so youre saying the picture with all those rubber things with the bolts on it connected to the transmission is an abs shaft? because thats my original one thats been on the car since i bought it which my car is non abs. the abs shaft is the pic with the red circle on it.

[CA18Magic]

[/qoute]
The reason why you need an ABS shaft is because it is slightly shorter than a non abs shaft. And since the J30 diff is about 1/4 inch closer forward, the shorter shaft (by also about 1/4 inch) works perfectly.

Just as a clarification, the difference between an auto or manual drive shaft is not necessarily the length... or where the center joint bolts up. Its the inner teeth that dont match up when mated to the transmission.

As for the feel of the abs driveshaft, well it feels identical. Wouldnt really be able to tell. I have the same setup on my RB s13. The reason for the high strength rubber material on the ABS shaft is for the rapid cease and continuation when ABS is engaged. A slight play so the shaft itself doesnt break.

Just my 2 cents..

so youre saying the picture with all those rubber things with the bolts on it connected to the transmission is an abs shaft? because thats my original one thats been on the car since i bought it which my car is non abs. the abs shaft is the pic with the red circle on it.[/quote]

Yup, 100% its an ABS driveshaft. That is the setup for j30 to fit properly.

[costa_rican13]

Holy smokes. Then i just wasted 30 bucks on a shaft i didnt even need. Because i already had that shaft on my car. (the rubber thing one). Well thanks everyone for their input!

[motoman399]

Yup, 100% its an ABS driveshaft. That is the setup for j30 to fit properly.

your wrong 100%

the first pic is of an s13 shaft, and the second pic is of an s14 auto shaft.

all s13's had the rubber at the front.

[OutToWinPAHC]

You need an S13 ABS driveshaft for a manual trans...... dont be so quick to buy the wrong thing.

[costa_rican13]

You need an S13 ABS driveshaft for a manual trans...... dont be so quick to buy the wrong thing.

Well this is what happened. I bought it from a guy on CL. Which said it was for an s13. So i go to put the shaft in. Then doesnt fit. So i call him and he says its for a auto s13 then he bullishts me and says i cant get a refund since he lied to me. So then i was told to swap the rear sections, which i did. And it fits the exact same. So now im out 30 bucks. And i just got my stance bushings for the dif. So now im on the lookout for another abs 5speed shaft.

[RB25nURface]

Yup, 100% its an ABS driveshaft. That is the setup for j30 to fit properly.

your wrong 100%

the first pic is of an s13 shaft, and the second pic is of an s14 auto shaft.

all s13's had the rubber at the front.

Sorry bro, ive had 3 s13's in total. My first was an auto w/o abs. Didnt have that rubber piece. And my 2nd and 3rd were 5 spd's (non abs). Didnt have that rubber piece on those either. And if i remember correctly, i did a swap on a friends that DID have that rubber piece... at the time we werent sure why, and im positive that his was abs. I'll check with him for clarification...

Gonna go w/ CA on this one... 100%

[RB25nURface]

You need an S13 ABS driveshaft for a manual trans...... dont be so quick to buy the wrong thing.

Well this is what happened. I bought it from a guy on CL. Which said it was for an s13. So i go to put the shaft in. Then doesnt fit. So i call him and he says its for a auto s13 then he bullishts me and says i cant get a refund since he lied to me. So then i was told to swap the rear sections, which i did. And it fits the exact same. So now im out 30 bucks. And i just got my stance bushings for the dif. So now im on the lookout for another abs 5speed shaft.

Oh and to add one more thing MOTOMAN399
And your statement of the 2nd driveshaft pic being from an s14... I thought that was weird cause it looked similar to my s13 auto (collar). And costarican13 states the seller said it was from an auto s13. Guess your fail twice... 200%

[costa_rican13]

any of you guya know how to get the bushings out. cause i i tried and i pushed the metal tube and the rubber around it out. but the metal part around the rubber didnt come out..

[motoman399]

Oh and to add one more thing MOTOMAN399
And your statement of the 2nd driveshaft pic being from an s14... I thought that was weird cause it looked similar to my s13 auto (collar). And costarican13 states the seller said it was from an auto s13. Guess your fail twice... 200%

dont be a jackass

here is a pic from an s14 build. auto to manual swap.
http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq25 ... wap002.jpg

here is the guys build thread if you want to look for yourself.
project-sneak-attack-t458041.html

dont make me go and take a pic of mine. gah i will if i have to with a measurement.

[costa_rican13]

ok now that we've got that fixed. any how to on the removal of the bushings??

[costa_rican13]

nobody know??

[GhostDriver]

First of all J30 vlsd was a waste of my hard earned money. Second way way back when I did my swap I had a J30 vlsd in an S14 diff and all I needed was the S14 bushings to complete it. If my memory serves me, the bushings just unbolt from the diff (maybe with a little persuasion).

[costa_rican13]

ok well i've decided im cutting the Bi^%$ cause it aint be persuaded by my hammer and socket or my flat head screwdriver. so im gona force it out

[costa_rican13]

UPDATE*** i did not have to cut it instead i used a bigger socket from a socket wrench. it was 15/16. and just put that up to the bushing and then hammered it out. thanks for all the help guys! and i guess a mod could delete this thread or save it for other ppl in the future that may find it useful.