OMG! TAIL LIGHTS!

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Hello, im kind of new to 240's. Iv been a 300zx addict for about 2 years now, but i cant afford it anymore. So im selling my Z. My friend turned me on to the s15 conversions for the s14 , but I really want a full conversion. Has anyone seen anything about tail light conversions (s14 to s15) or anything about tail light conversions for the s14 in general. Cause i cant find crap.

*edit* ok i finished a search and realize it was a lame question. But iv seen like 6 guys with supra tail light conversions, does anyone know where to find any information about any tail lights?
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Tail light mods are that, tail light mods. There is no how-to for any mod of that. Most consider swaping lights to be very rice, I have to agree. Performance > Look In the end your modded tail lights do the same thing as your stock ones. So why not just leave it? Don't rice out your car with JDM conversion/big rims/muffler section/cold air intake. Choose a body style. S13 Coupe or Fastback / S14 and then stick with it. Do all the performance mods first then the body mods with new paint last. If your going for big looks, get a honda.

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Why does everyone who gets an s14 always want to do a damn s15 front end. I think that front end is so overdone that I'm already sick of it . And a big thumbs down to the tailight conversion. But if you do want to pursue it your gonna have to go a GOOD body shop so they can cut out the space needed and then bondo all around it, then sand, prime, paint, etc.If your going to do any type of body work make sure you get some one that knows what their doing cause it can make or break your car

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Because of the construction of all the S-chassis cars, swapping tails is not as straightforward as front ends.

In a front end swap, you just unbolt the fenders, the facia, the headlights and the hood. Then, you replace each with the parts with S15 stuff. Pretty easy.

The rear fenders are welded to the frame. No taking those off, and the rear end is the same. You'd have to cut, place and mold any big mods like tails. The problem with the S15 tails specifically is that they are designed to flow with the S15 chassis. Unless you have one of THOSE, it won't work aethetically.

Tail mods, like lee. said, are not the kind of thing anyone can write a step-by-step guide on. Each mod will be custom.

Anyway, thanks for searching and welcome to NICO.

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i really dont think the s15 tail lights look good at all.

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^they don't look nice at all, I prefer The stock s14 tails over the s15's anyday

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Zenki Tails with Kouki Fronts!

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JimmyMethod wrote:Zenki Tails with Kouki Fronts!
haha, whats up with you, and that? I want some pics, then i'll consider.

(edit: dumb question, for pics, haha duh!)
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JimmyMethod your the first person I've heard that switched from kouki tails to Zenki tails. hah I love stock kouki tails

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lower and wheels before any other cosmetics... stock heighted, blackies with +40 offset with an s15 front will look even worst than a stock car

check out all the s14.5 converted car galleys.. no one has shots of the car from the side it's always front or rear because looking at the car from the side is disturbing.

here's a shot: http://store1.yimg.com/I/jspec_1832_13024650 s15's headlights makes the taillights look iddy bitty

and heres a s14 stinky: http://www.versionselect.com/images/greens14b.jpg not the best one but it proves the point.
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just get some alltezas...NOT lol

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personally, I think you can do custom work to a car and have it not look like rice, but there is a fine line to ride there. The S14 body looks so good just like it comes, zenki or kouki, front or rear. The S15 front looks good only when done right, and the other front ends look so good, it seems pointless to me unless you have a damaged front end and even still the cost of changing to another front end is prohibitive in my book. If you're going to change an S14, just lower it, give it wheels with a nice offset, pick out a nice front grill, and maybe a mild body kit if you aren't happy with that. Anything else will take money away from an engine swap, and other things that will make owning a 240 so worth it.

I do think the S13 body lends itself well to front end conversions though. The S15 front looks really good on a hatch and the silvia front is mandatory for a coupe. For the hatch, maybe a wide body and some 180sx tails, but not even a noticeable wide body, just enough to accent the s15 front, then for the coupe, that silvia front is plenty.

In theory, the price difference between an s13 and an s14 should be enough to offset the cost of the front end conversion on an s13, so if you're with my way of thinking it all evens out.

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AAAARGHHH!!! No more S14.5's, IMO it does not flow at all! If there is any car with s15 lights it should be an s13 hatch with rear overfenders or an actual s15. Im sick of s14's with s15 fronts....

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That was so BIAS ^^.. the S14.5 flows alot better then the S13.5 .

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GEO wrote:That was so BIAS ^^.. the S14.5 flows alot better then the S13.5 .
yeah most def.

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Well I hate to dissapoint you but I was not saying that just because I have a hatch. I clearly said IMO (IN MY OPINION) so if you don't like it you can piss off or state your own opinion. So how is your opinion not biased... you have an s14. Stop bothering me because of my opinion. KTHNXBYE
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ok kids its not worth fighting about. We've all seen S15 conversions that do not work. Personally I think they mostly don't work on s14s because they don't follow the lines of the car very well. I think this is pretty much the fault of the fender manufacturers. However, next time you watch drifting, take a look at Casper Canul's S14.5 (that is if it is back in one piece, I think he crashed it pretty good). I think he has the good fenders. And on S13s, if I remember correctly last time I looked at one, the body line or crease down the side is not as defined as on an S14 so they seem to flow better naturally.

Bottom line, if you do this conversion, S13 or S14, do your research and spend some money on the fenders cause if they don't line up your car will look like a$$.

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Not the biggest fan of headlight swaps between the years but tail lights should be left alone. I can understand switching tail lights if they fit or modifying them. Also front S13.5 and S14.5 conversions look fine if you have the cash to make it happen properly.

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OMG tail lights.......really dude pay a little more close attention to the s15 tail lights. They look all to familar imo because I see them on the road everyday. They look exactly like the tail lights on a pontiac grand prix so if you want people to think you have an s15 front on a 2 door grand prix be my guest but IMO keep the s14 the way it is and if is a zenki be different put the glass european headlights in it. I would find that more intresting then another strawberry face conversion

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i know this isn't a pic of S15 tails on an S14... but with the right amount of money, anything is possible... skyline tails on an S14... looks decent

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heres the front of the above car if anyone was wondering what it looked like

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^^^Another poor S14 hidden behind laughable graphics, a huge spoiler, and an R34 tail conversion. Under all that rice, an awesome looking s14 once was.....in stock form

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That S14 reminds me of an usual american sedan, large with pointless bulges that look terrible.

The hood gave me a laugh though, reminds me of the Afrocentric days of the 80's

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TOPSECRT88 wrote:^^^Another poor S14 hidden behind laughable graphics, a huge spoiler, and an R34 tail conversion. Under all that rice, an awesome looking s14 once was.....in stock form
thats not another poor s14, it's a Acura Integra with a s14 conversion with a R34 tail conversion.

you guys have got to know your cars!!!

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haha that is exactly what I was thinking. Check out the tiny rear wheels, and hatch, not coupe. Wide rear fenders on fwd cars are completely pointless.

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naed240sx wrote:haha that is exactly what I was thinking. Check out the tiny rear wheels, and hatch, not coupe. Wide rear fenders on fwd cars are completely pointless.
i second this.. i mean its dumb.. why would they even want to enlarge the rear tires. all they do is trail. my .o2

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My friend had a civic and bought a S14 front end conversion for it. He didn't put the kit on because you had to cut a giant portion of the core support out and he didn't want to make a custom core support.

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eh, that does sound like a royal PITA...

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i dont think it's an integra but ok.. it's just a demented azz pic because the fenders are wayyyy too wide for the dinky wheels. the tail lights would be ok if it wasn't borderline transformer. and i wouldn't be dumb enough to look at my tail lights and want to change them to another car.

i tend to agree. i bought my S14 kouki because it looks BEAUTIFUL. the only reason people change it is because they are stuck in JDM land. the headlights are both nice-yes, an S14 is beautiful-yes, an S15 is beautiful-yes, but attempting to mix them is kind of lame and it's just putting the parts where they don't belong.

don't get me wrong, some can do it REEAL nice.

ie. the S14 zenki head lights are kind of bland to me... since they are more similar looking to a skyline (note stress on "similar" flamers) so a skyline front end usually looks kind of nice... but not preferred on an S14 kouki. and the zenki lights are also nice and smooth.

as far as the grand prix lights are concerned, i would probably kill you if you bought an S15 and changed the tail lights. S15's are all around beautiful cars and it's not japan's fault that we made a retarded ugly car.

as far as S13's are concerned, 180sx conversions are definitely beautiful.

whatever you do, if you change something in your looks, don't do something else that will make it looks RETARDED. for example, don't do S15 lights and then primer your car. if you wanna primer your car, do a free similar mod to your head and tail lights---just smash them.

[edit: if you can't afford the Z, then you shouldn't be able to afford a conversion, or at least a good one.... so plz leave it be]

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0wn3r wrote:i dont think it's an integra but ok.. ]
...well it is acura integra, I had a 94.....I'll teach you a trick I taught myself to recognize almost any car, study the back quarter window of a car and you can tell right away what car it is, even if they changed the front and back bumper to something complety differnt( if they change the quarter window too then it will be harder.).....here I'll give you proof, look at this integra back quarter window and look at the one posted, they are the same!!!


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