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Is that look on Trump's face aimed at Howie ??? I dunno :lolling:

Watch out...............WHATCHOUT ! :rotflmao


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There are considerations that call into question the claim that Trump instigated an “insurrection” in the constitutional sense. If it were clear that Trump engaged in insurrection, the Justice Department should have acted on the Jan. 6 Committee’s referral for prosecution on that charge. Special Counsel Jack Smith should have indicted him for insurrection or seditious conspiracy, which remain federal crimes. If it were obvious that Trump had committed insurrection, Congress should have convicted him in the two weeks between Jan. 6 and Inauguration Day. Instead, the House impeached Trump for indictment to insurrection but the Senate acquitted him.

The Senate’s acquittal is the only official finding by a federal or state institution on the question of whether Trump committed insurrection. The failure of the special counsel to charge insurrection and the Senate to convict in the second impeachment highlights a serious flaw in the theory of disqualification.

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:picard: Palen to the rescue

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Rogue One wrote:
Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:00 pm
There are considerations that call into question the claim that Trump instigated an “insurrection” in the constitutional sense. If it were clear that Trump engaged in insurrection, the Justice Department should have acted on the Jan. 6 Committee’s referral for prosecution on that charge. Special Counsel Jack Smith should have indicted him for insurrection or seditious conspiracy, which remain federal crimes. If it were obvious that Trump had committed insurrection, Congress should have convicted him in the two weeks between Jan. 6 and Inauguration Day. Instead, the House impeached Trump for indictment to insurrection but the Senate acquitted him.

The Senate’s acquittal is the only official finding by a federal or state institution on the question of whether Trump committed insurrection. The failure of the special counsel to charge insurrection and the Senate to convict in the second impeachment highlights a serious flaw in the theory of disqualification.
This is a direct quote from the Supreme Court when they (utterly) rebuked Jack Smith in overturning the McDonnell conviction: "The uncontrolled power of criminal prosecutors is a threat to our separation of powers."
Period.

The fact is, none of these cases will stand up to legal or constitution scrutiny. Smith will end up rebuked again, and the New York and Georgia cases are embarrassments to the legal system which will be tossed the moment they reach higher courts. None of that is the problem. The problem is that prosecutions are occurring in the first place.
The way it looks at the moment, forget insurrection, it's entirely plausible that Uncle Joe has committed treason by literally selling out his country. He shouldn't be prosecuted either, regardless of whether his crackhead son goes up for life. This isn't Venezuela yet, and we shouldn't go there.

You're insane, Howie, and so is anyone who wants to prosecute Joe. That's what impeachment is for. Get over it.

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Now let's finish watching Colbert :spitout:
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Lawyers and Real Estate agents Howie :tisk: ...........................................Lawyers and Real Estate agents :spitout:

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macgiver wrote:
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Now let's finish watching Colbert
This was a (civics) test. This was only a (civics) test. We now return you to your regularly scheduled (apolitical) Nico programming.
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AND .................of Latin origin......................civics , without it .......you got NO civilization........C H A O S
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pssssssssst..............I'm under cover " Control Agent # 918 "....................shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :cool:

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I got just THE solution to ALL this thread ......an opening at the used car lot " Down by the river " ....ya know keep ya busy , focus time , regroup , rethink , research , re-evaluate , renew ! The ' Mind ' WILL come up from the ashes Like a PHOENIX (AZ) :rotflmao
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macgiver wrote:
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AND .................of Latin origin......................civics , without it .......you got NO civilization........C H A O S
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pssssssssst..............I'm under cover " Control Agent # 918 "....................shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :cool:
It can't be Latin, the Squad would be insisting we call it CivicsX.

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It will be FORCED on EVERY childs cerial box :lolling:

Other three sides will be ' plasterd ' with Trigger Warnings ! :facepalm:

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Joe may be old.
Joe may be a little slow.

But Joe is still functioning in contrast to the Republican Party that has our government at a standstill and is incapable of electing a speaker.
In other news the walls are continuing to close in on the previous incompetent president.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/20/us/p ... trump.html

"On Friday, Mr. Chesebro pleaded guilty to a single felony count of conspiring to file false documents in Georgia and agreed to cooperate with the local prosecutors who have charged Mr. Trump and 17 others in a sprawling racketeering indictment accusing them of tampering with the election in the state.

Word of his cooperation deal came one day after Sidney Powell, another lawyer who sought to help Mr. Trump remain in power, reached a similar arrangement with the authorities. Last month, an Atlanta bail bondsman with a minor role in the alleged conspiracy also agreed to plead guilty.

“The three folks who’ve pled guilty so far have all apparently avoided jail time and I think that’s an unmistakable signal to other defendants deciding whether or not they want to plead guilty and cooperate,” said Chuck Rosenberg, a former U.S. attorney and senior F.B.I. official."

When your lawyers start pleading guilty the end cannot be too far away.

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I can prove Brandon is capable of signing a $6B check. I guess you can call that "functioning".
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I can prove Brandon is capable of signing a $6B check. I guess you can call that "functioning".
:lolling: :lolling: :lolling:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ad5&ei=517

"Biden’s Feat Underplayed: Mary Trump also slammed the Republican’s obsession with President Joe Biden’s age, while entirely ignoring his accomplishments and making them seem “ordinary or somehow underwhelming.”

She noted that Biden, in the last two and a half years of his first term, has created over 13 million jobs, decreased the unemployment rate to a 50-year low, appointed over 145 judges to the federal bench, passed the first major piece of gun legislation in 30 years, signed the Inflation Reduction Act and enabled Medicare to negotiate prices with drug companies.

Biden’s first term, under normal circumstances, would have been considered “stellar,” but, considering what he inherited from the Trump administration, it has been “nothing short of extraordinary,” she said. The current president inherited “three intersecting and potentially democracy-destroying crises,” namely COVID-19, the economy and the “Big Lie” that led to the Jan. 6 insurrection, she added.

Mary Trump Moots New Plan: A handful of “sane, pro-democracy Republicans” would be enough to make Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) the speaker, Mary Trump said. A simple majority of 217 votes is required for a win in the House, which has 221 GOP members and 212 Democrats, with two seats vacant.

“But there are no sane, pro-democracy Republicans,” Mary Trump said.

“Turning to Democrats for help in keeping the government open is what got Kevin McCarthy fired in the first place,” she added. “Don't expect any Republican who wants to get re-elected to make the same mistake.”

“Hakeem Jeffries and the united Democratic caucus in the House have it exactly right—the Republicans, through their cynical, anti-government, policy-free agenda have brought this country to its knees rendering the U.S. that much weaker in the face of unfolding and complex international conflicts,” Mary Trump said. The conflicts between Ukraine and Russia and Israel and Hamas have “serious, far-reaching implications” for the future of U.S., she said.

“Steady, strong American leadership is more necessary than ever,” she added."

Mary Trump is much more informed than you.

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Yeah, go ahead and spin this. This is #Bidenomics
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Saving money to buy a house? Your dollar goes half as far as it did at the end of 2020, new data shows.

Housing affordability drops and buyers shed buying power as home prices climb and mortgage interest rates hit long-time highs.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/real-e ... rcna120801

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"Biden’s Feat Underplayed: Mary Trump also slammed the Republican’s obsession with President Joe Biden’s age, while entirely ignoring his accomplishments and making them seem “ordinary or somehow underwhelming.”

She noted that Biden, in the last two and a half years of his first term, has created over 13 million jobs, decreased the unemployment rate to a 50-year low, appointed over 145 judges to the federal bench, passed the first major piece of gun legislation in 30 years, signed the Inflation Reduction Act and enabled Medicare to negotiate prices with drug companies.

Biden’s first term, under normal circumstances, would have been considered “stellar,” but, considering what he inherited from the Trump administration, it has been “nothing short of extraordinary,” she said. The current president inherited “three intersecting and potentially democracy-destroying crises,” namely COVID-19, the economy and the “Big Lie” that led to the Jan. 6 insurrection, she added.

Mary Trump Moots New Plan: A handful of “sane, pro-democracy Republicans” would be enough to make Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) the speaker, Mary Trump said. A simple majority of 217 votes is required for a win in the House, which has 221 GOP members and 212 Democrats, with two seats vacant.

“But there are no sane, pro-democracy Republicans,” Mary Trump said.

“Turning to Democrats for help in keeping the government open is what got Kevin McCarthy fired in the first place,” she added. “Don't expect any Republican who wants to get re-elected to make the same mistake.”

“Hakeem Jeffries and the united Democratic caucus in the House have it exactly right—the Republicans, through their cynical, anti-government, policy-free agenda have brought this country to its knees rendering the U.S. that much weaker in the face of unfolding and complex international conflicts,” Mary Trump said. The conflicts between Ukraine and Russia and Israel and Hamas have “serious, far-reaching implications” for the future of U.S., she said.

“Steady, strong American leadership is more necessary than ever,” she added."

Mary Trump is much more informed than you.
Only someone "informed" in a sheltered DC bubble could believe that kind of but spin, but please, my visibly thinner wallet is the least of the world's worries. Let's add setting the world on fire to that list of "accomplishments". When my president only knows how to throw money at a crisis and not how to avert one, that's a problem. When he throws money at mortal enemies and thinks it isn't a problem, that's beyond a problem. Come back and talk to us when the blood of your kids and ours are done paying for all that needless destruction, all of which was avoidable if our leader wasn't hopelessly weak and could see any consequences past the end of his political nose.

Enjoy your bubble while you can, Howie. None of us will be liking what happens when it pops.

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PS - Accusing other people of being "uninformed" when all your news sources are demonstrably slanted simply makes you misinformed. Unlike you, some of us get our news from both sides and decide for ourselves. When you call names and make personal accusations, the only purpose can be to end the debate. You've succeeded, I won't be responding to further to this thread and you can spout whatever misinformed baloney you please.

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Yeah, go ahead and spin this. This is #Bidenomics
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Saving money to buy a house? Your dollar goes half as far as it did at the end of 2020, new data shows.

Housing affordability drops and buyers shed buying power as home prices climb and mortgage interest rates hit long-time highs.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/real-e ... rcna120801

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Biden does not control interest rates.

New Home Sales Rise 12.3% in September as Prices Fall

The median sales price is now 12% below a year ago.
By Tim Smart
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Oct. 25, 2023, at 11:02 a.m.

https://www.usnews.com/news/economy/art ... rices-fall

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Tell me you know diddly squat about economics or how our government works without telling me that you know diddly squat. :facepalm:
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Biden does not control interest rates.

New Home Sales Rise 12.3% in September as Prices Fall

The median sales price is now 12% below a year ago.
By Tim Smart
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Oct. 25, 2023, at 11:02 a.m.

https://www.usnews.com/news/economy/art ... rices-fall

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Its about time!

Trump Fraud Trial Penalty Will Exceed $450 Million

The ruling in Donald J. Trump’s civil fraud case could cost him all his available cash. The judge said that the former president’s “complete lack of contrition” bordered on pathological.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/nyre ... uling.html

A jail cell is being reserved for him.

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Hardly.

This was a clear case of judicial overreach by a biased judge. It will be overturned on appeal. Bank on it.

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Rogue One wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:31 am
Hardly.

This was a clear case of judicial overreach by a biased judge. It will be overturned on appeal. Bank on it.
You can bet on it being overturned on appeal,
I wouldn't!
However in order to appeal he has 30 days for each appeal and must come up with 120% of each loss. Both cases along with the 9% finance charges come up close to a half a billion dollars.

You and his other supporters must send him higher amounts of money and buy his shoddy overpriced sneakers @$399.00 each.

Any condos in NYC buildings with a Trump name on them are now selling at sharply reduced real estate prices as few buyers want to be associated with a Trump name.
You should probably make an offer on one of those apartments. Might be a good deal for you?


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