Oklahoma bill to ban eyeball tattoos

[wawazat8402]

I would prefer that it be amended on the insurance side and not the legal side. As someone that enjoys various forms of body modification, I would be very disappointed if the government start feeling they had the power to tell me what I could do with my own body. I also think it would be stupid for an insurance company to be held responsible for the side effects, long term effects, and lack of research for such a modification.

I had read about eye tattooing a while back and thought it was stupid then. Eyes cannot be replaced and theyre kind of important for day to day activities, theres no way I would let someone thats not a trained ocular surgeon anywhere around them with a needle.

[AZhitman]

Eye art and contact lens are technically no different in terms of what one inserts into their eye. That one washes their hands before inserting their contact lens is no guarantee that ones eyes will be free of infections, and thus damage to ones eyes. So, are we supposed to blame the contact user for the infection of their own eyes, and thus, make them pay for fixing the eyes rather than burdeniing society with the bills? I am just wondering and curious.

Wrong.

One is invasive, one is not.

Getting a haircut does not require you to go to a practitioner with a medical degree. Getting liposuction does.

Sorry J, there's a diff.

[AZhitman]

Umhhhh, what can i say here to get under the skin of Azhitman?? What is Azhitman gonna do to me if I get deep enough under his skin??

Emmm..........................I thought Bruce Springstein was known as the boss? Correct me, if I am wrong.

NOTE: Its all in good fun.Hehehehehe!

Bigger, smarter, and wittier men than you have tried.

And failed.

My life experiences alone give me an unfair advantage over you in the "thick skin" department, and my well-wish for you is that it stays that way.

[Jacko3]

Wrong.

One is invasive, one is not.

Getting a haircut does not require you to go to a practitioner with a medical degree. Getting liposuction does.

Sorry J, there's a diff.

So, how is sticking one's finger in their eye to insert a contact lens anymore invasive than sticking a needle to create art on one's eyeball? Certainly, there is the issue of degree of invasion. I wanna hear your logic on this matter.

[AZhitman]

So, how is sticking one's finger in their eye to insert a contact lens anymore invasive than sticking a needle to create art on one's eyeball? Certainly, there is the issue of degree of invasion. I wanna hear your logic on this matter.

You just answered your own question.

If you don't know the difference between an "Invasive procedure" and a "non-invasive procedure", look it up.

By your logic, picking your nose = brain surgery.

You don't "stick your finger IN your eye". You're doing it wrong, if you do.

Seriously, J - This is elementary and beneath BOTH our intellects.

[Jacko3]

Bigger, smarter, and wittier men than you have tried.

And failed.

My life experiences alone give me an unfair advantage over you in the "thick skin" department, and my well-wish for you is that it stays that way.

Gregg:

How would one define bigger, smarter, and wittier? I recently learned that a 9 year old kid, somewhere in the US, wrote a program for an i-pod. I was impressed. Would you consider such a kid bigger, smarter, and wittier?

How would one define failure? Is failure a function of a single event or is it a function of multiple events or is it a function of diminishing returns in specified activities over time?

What is a life experience? In what context and dminesions do we perceive this phenomenon? What life experiences do you suppose gives one an unfair advantage over another?

[Jacko3]

You just answered your own question.

If you don't know the difference between an "Invasive procedure" and a "non-invasive procedure", look it up.

By your logic, picking your nose = brain surgery.

You don't "stick your finger IN your eye". You're doing it wrong, if you do.

Seriously, J - This is elementary and beneath BOTH our intellects.

Actually and theoretically, the degree of invasion may actually differ from say, invasion and non-invasion. I doubt that invasion and non-invasion are elements of the same spectrum. What do you think. For example, a person who is less satisfied with their job does notnecessarily mean they are dissatisfied with their job. Less of an element does not technically imply a new concept. What do you think?

[AZhitman]

Gregg:

How would one define bigger, smarter, and wittier? I recently learned that a 9 year old kid, somewhere in the US, wrote a program for an i-pod. I was impressed. Would you consider such a kid bigger, smarter, and wittier?

I'm glad you were impressed. Perhaps you can have that kid define the words "bigger", "smarter" and "wittier" to you.

How would one define failure? Is failure a function of a single event or is it a function of multiple events or is it a function of diminishing returns in specified activities over time?

After reading your posts, I would define failure as the inability to maintain a cohesive train of thought and remain focused on the task at hand.

What is a life experience? In what context and dminesions do we perceive this phenomenon? What life experiences do you suppose gives one an unfair advantage over another?

I'm not one for bellybutton-gazing or meaningless introspection. You'll have to play philosopher with someone who doesn't work for a living.

Please refrain from posting in this thread unless you can contribute meaningfully to the issue at hand.

Thx!

[Jacko3]

I'm glad you were impressed. Perhaps you can have that kid define the words "bigger", "smarter" and "wittier" to you.

After reading your posts, I would define failure as the inability to maintain a cohesive train of thought and remain focused on the task at hand.

I'm not one for bellybutton-gazing or meaningless introspection. You'll have to play philosopher with someone who doesn't work for a living.

Please refrain from posting in this thread unless you can contribute meaningfully to the issue at hand.

Thx!

Interesting!

[AZhitman]

Glad you think so. I try to be interesting so as to keep your attention.

More reading, more comprehending, less navel-gazing.

[bobotech]

I would prefer that it be amended on the insurance side and not the legal side. As someone that enjoys various forms of body modification, I would be very disappointed if the government start feeling they had the power to tell me what I could do with my own body. I also think it would be stupid for an insurance company to be held responsible for the side effects, long term effects, and lack of research for such a modification.

I had read about eye tattooing a while back and thought it was stupid then. Eyes cannot be replaced and theyre kind of important for day to day activities, theres no way I would let someone thats not a trained ocular surgeon anywhere around them with a needle.

We need to make this a legal issue to prevent idiots who partake in practice a drain on society when they go blind and need to be on disability for the rest of their lives.

Even if we make it an insurance issue, doctors are bound by the Hippocratic oath to provide heathcare for people in need so even if the insurance company won't provide coverage for the person' eyes, they will still get help from the doctor.

We need to legislate hard core body modification out of existence such as amputation people, eye tattooing, etc. Stuff that has a good chance of causing major life long injuries that would make the person unable to be a fully functional supporting member of society.

I really don't want MY taxes paying for some moron's hard core body modification gone wrong.

[Jacko3]

Glad you think so. I try to be interesting so as to keep your attention.

More reading, more comprehending, less navel-gazing.

You said, "Please refrain from posting in this thread unless you can contribute meaningfully to the issue at hand." Is this the penultimate procedure for a potential and future extinction from "your website"?

Actually, my comment about interesting could mean anything from a modest sarcasm to a true heart-felt interest in your comment. What "interesting" really means can only be deciphered by moi. What do you think?

And what could one infer from this "More reading, more comprehending, less navel-gazing"? Could you help me out here? It could mean any number of things, don't you think?

[1unar3clipse]

We need to make this a legal issue to prevent idiots who partake in practice a drain on society when they go blind and need to be on disability for the rest of their lives.

When my dad has been out of work for almost 3 years due to Diabetic Retinopathy without disability I sure as hell do not want to support some dumbass who decided to tattoo his eye and can no longer cook fries and flip burgers for the rest of his life.

[1unar3clipse]

And what could one infer from this "More reading, more comprehending, less navel-gazing"? Could you help me out here? It could mean any number of things, don't you think?

My old English teacher would have put it with less hilarity: "less fat, more meat"

[AZhitman]

You said, "Please refrain from posting in this thread unless you can contribute meaningfully to the issue at hand." Is this the penultimate procedure for a potential and future extinction from "your website"?

What if it was?

Actually, my comment about interesting could mean anything from a modest sarcasm to a true heart-felt interest in your comment. What "interesting" really means can only be deciphered by moi. What do you think?

I think you waste my time, that's what I think.

And what could one infer from this "More reading, more comprehending, less navel-gazing"? Could you help me out here? It could mean any number of things, don't you think?

I think anyone with a grasp of the English language would get my meaning loud and clear.

I'm sorry it's a challenge for you.

It must be utter hell to have all your internal ponderings gush out onto your keyboard before they have a chance to evolve into fully-formed ideas.

Again, contribute to the discussion and refrain from trolling.

I can't be any more clear.

[AZhitman]

When my dad has been out of work for almost 3 years due to Diabetic Retinopathy without disability I sure as hell do not want to support some dumbass who decided to tattoo his eye and can no longer cook fries and flip burgers for the rest of his life.

Great point. Of all the afflictions that can befall us, blindness is one of the ones that frightens me the most.

My thoughts are with your Pops.

[Jacko3]

What if it was?

I think you waste my time, that's what I think.

I think anyone with a grasp of the English language would get my meaning loud and clear.

I'm sorry it's a challenge for you.

It must be utter hell to have all your internal ponderings gush out onto your keyboard before they have a chance to evolve into fully-formed ideas.

Again, contribute to the discussion and refrain from trolling.

I can't be any more clear.

Gregg, you are a lot of fun.

[AZhitman]

Thanks.

One G, please.

Rather, two. One at the beginning, one at the end.

[1unar3clipse]

Great point. Of all the afflictions that can befall us, blindness is one of the ones that frightens me the most.

My thoughts are with your Pops.

Thanks Greg.

My dad was heartbroken because his impairment came on so quickly, I don't think a day goes by without him saying something like "I miss being able to drive" "I miss being able to work" "I miss playing football with my nephews"

Going blind has made my dad feel useless and unwanted, definitely not what any hard worker ever wants to experience.

Thats why I can't understand intentionally endangering your ability to see.

it just seems..

[bobotech]

When my dad has been out of work for almost 3 years due to Diabetic Retinopathy without disability I sure as hell do not want to support some dumbass who decided to tattoo his eye and can no longer cook fries and flip burgers for the rest of his life.

I have no problem with my taxes going to help someone who is blind or handicapped though no fault of their own but I would be highly upset at someone modifying their body in the name of "art" and handicapping themselves to the point of becoming a drain on society.

[AZhitman]

My dad was heartbroken because his impairment came on so quickly, I don't think a day goes by without him saying something like "I miss being able to drive" "I miss being able to work" "I miss playing football with my nephews"

Going blind has made my dad feel useless and unwanted, definitely not what any hard worker ever wants to experience.

[wawazat8402]

We need to legislate hard core body modification out of existence such as amputation people, eye tattooing, etc. Stuff that has a good chance of causing major life long injuries that would make the person unable to be a fully functional supporting member of society.

I really don't want MY taxes paying for some moron's hard core body modification gone wrong.

I understand where you're coming from, however, I could easily see that being a slippery slope leading to forced conformity in society. Some may see the pieces of titanium implanted in my chest as a "hard core body modification". Perhaps it should be special coverage by those performing the modifications and a certain liability to not perform modifications with that level of risk.

I guess my apprehension for this bill is the possibility of average Americans being able to deem what is "hard core" modification. I dont think most people understand why these things are enjoyed by a few. Naturally, what is not understood is often frowned upon and attempts are made to suppress it.

[VersaMG08]

People can do whatever they want, the stupider the more unique. There shouldn't be a law to ban something as bizarre as this, that just makes the law moot. Something like this rarely ever happens, I think.