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i know that i need an oil feed line that goes to oil pan, but where does the other line that connects to turbo come from or goto? Also where is a good place to get all the supplies to do this? and How long should lines be if i have Ka24e? My next question is that if i have an internal wastegate, do i need to have a boost controller and bov? or just bov? and ive seen some bov's that have the outlet to make noise and ive seen some that look like a straight stick..which is better for my setup if im runing: T3 Super60, 8:1 FMU, Non intercooled, walbro 255...Any suggestion..Thanks


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you connect to the oil pressure sending unit under the oil filter. you need a T to tap into it. you can put together your own lines, but its much easier, and a little more expensive to get them through jgs. they have everything custom made to the right spec

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on that site..do i need to get the outlet and inlet set? there are different option for the two...so i get those too adapters and then the lines..how long u thnk ill need for sohc? and whats teh difference between the regular and gt type?

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I dont know the difference between gt and regular, I bought the long ones, and it was perfect for bottom mount turbo, I dont know which orientation you have, but the regular T3 kit should be fine. I got both inlet and outlet, as well as the 2 flanges, but I want to say that the return kit came with a flange, and the inlet kit didnt, but I cant remember quite right now.

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so ill need the inlet/outlet feed line flanges...and i have to get the lines for feed and drain? i mean if i look at the site there are those four options that i would need to buy..is taht correct...1 inlet flange, 1 outlet flange, 1 set for feed lines, 1 set for drain lines? just to be clear

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im gonna email u some pics of my turbo..and see what parts i need for the lines and hook ups...ur email from me clicking on ur profile

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well cant..whats ur email so i cna send pics

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you need a BOV. 1st gen eclipse/talons are a good deal, $30-50 on Ebay. They can be setup to vent to atmosphere or recirculated into the intake.

BOV has nothing to do with your wastegate or boost controller. The minimum amount of boost you can run is determined by the setting on the wastegate. The boost controller can only be used to increase the bosst level at which your wastegate opens.

And just so you know, the oil pan tap is for the oil return line, and the oil supply (or feed) line comes from that spot under the filter ftrs13 referred too.

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so there is already a T thing on my oil pan? all i have to do is install the return line and hook up line from that T that is already there?? or am i just not understanding completely?

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my email is [email protected] and you have to get a special T, but I think that comes with the oil feed kit.you need no T on the return line, just to tap your oil pan. the T is for the feed. so usually the oil pressure sensor just looks at the oil passage in the block, but you want to extend that and tap into it for oil to your turbo.

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You need to remove your oil pan, drill it, and attatch a bung of some sort. You cant tap it, or weld it. Personally, I welded a small piece of 3/4" pipe to the oil pan.

As far as the oil feed line, I used the JGS 3' line, and with a bottom mount turbo, it's almost too short. I had to run it across the top of the valve cover because it would barely reach. I recommend a 4' oil feed line.

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what do you recommend as far as length for the return oil line?

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its still kinda confusing with everyone stating something little by little..if someone could find or give me a picture link or email me pics of ur setup..my email is [email protected] and i would appreciate it so much...i need someone to break down which side of turbo is feed and return, where and how each line is done,

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if im running turbo...would it be ok to run the spark plug and wires that i can get off NOPI? not sure on spec of them but just curious..or do i need to get something more expensive?

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outlet is square I believe, at least it was on mine.

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the oil inlet/outlet is going to be different for each turbo. And the length will vary slightly depending on where you mount the turbo. Anyway I'd say get a 1/8 NPT Tee, thread it in, put the stock oil sender on one side, run a 1/8 to 4 an adaptor, run stainless from there to to the oil inlet on the turbo. and then run a large line from the oil drain to the oil pan. I'd say you wanna leave at least 5 feet for the feed line. that way you'll have freedom to run it the way you want. yeah.

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5 ft is good if you want to run it another route other than right over the valve cover. $ an is a good size, i agree. Anything oevr will cause too much oil pressure int he turbine and wear the seals out(push oil past them)Also-- The kits form jgs comes with everything--and if you are confused by the way to do it--then just get a kit. HAving one less thing to figure out will help, instead of trying to figure out how to install it and also to put it together.

the jgs kit is only like 85 shipped--not bad at all.itll costs you almost that much t make one from a shop..-Josh

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well i looked at prices from lgs shipped was like 113...but ill do that..does that give instructions with parts? if not then ill have my buddies ship do for me since i will need to tap into oil pan and weld some stuff in..thanks for info though guys..

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can you guys please read my other thread about bov...its new so help me out..its pretty much asking if the bov im looking at is good for my setup..the no intercooler..but i need to recirculate the air..so is this bov good? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...photo

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you can make your own lines for a lot less than 85. My brother makes kits and sells them and his cost per kit is something like 30 bucks. I am making my own for twin turbos, that uses AN tees and 6 hose ends (they are expensive) and mine should come out to around 60.

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do u think he can make me a kit for the ka24e...i have a T3 Super60 turbo...ill have the jgs cusom manifold...if that matters..but if he can make me one..

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I used a center punch on the oil pan, and then JB welded a piece of 3/4" pipe to it. Holds up just fine. No removal of oil pan that way.

I did just have my oil pan off recently though, to replace pistons, and I should have re-done the oil pan...but oh well.

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I dunno his email is [email protected] but he is mostly into domestics.

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hey i got confused with all the posts ive done today..but the jgs kit that is 113 shipped is all i need..the 2 flanges, lines for inlet/outlet..thats all i need right? other than installation right?? thanks

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sorry hope i'm not thread jacking, but what about using a sandwich spacer in front of the oil filter.is that for feed only or can i run my return there to so i don't have to weld the pan.or is weldin' the pan just the best and shortest route for the oil return?


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