Stay away from the Fram, Honeywell and Quaker State oil filters (Honeywell owns Fram; Fram now manufactures oil filters for Quaker State, which are basically re-labelled Fram/Honeywell filters), they have very poor construction, everything is held with glue and often the glue separates parts and leak oil contaminents back into the engine).Gerardjg wrote:Nissan 15208-55Y00K&N HP2008Fram PH3682Mobil 1 M1-208Mobil 1 M1-110
DominickJ30 wrote:I usually go to autozone, look at the book, find the valuecraft equivilant which is about $2.60, then I find the mobil 1 and simply switch the box.
Nothin better than a mobil 1 for less than 3 dollars.
That is a smart move I will be checking every Mobil filter I get not to get into the Dominick's trap.DominickJ30 wrote:I usually go to autozone, look at the book, find the valuecraft equivilant which is about $2.60, then I find the mobil 1 and simply switch the box.
Nothin better than a mobil 1 for less than 3 dollars.
I've heard these Fram stories for years, but have yet to meet anyone who's actually had a problem with them. I guess my mileage varied. I've heard the horrors of Pennzoil forever as well, but yet to see or meet anyone who's experienced them. Just tales. Yes, I've seen the oil filter dissection site. I've read lots on Bobistheoilguy.I tend to use WalMart's house brand. Both oil and filters.Funny how all those Volkswagens (and, many other cars of the era) lasted all those years without filters. Then again, if modern 3000-miles-between-oil-change drivers ever realized how much of their oil skips the filter by going out the bypass valve, they'd probably faint dead away.Modern oil additive packages are amongst the greatest progress of technology that most of us ever encounter.driverdriver wrote:Stay away from the Fram, Honeywell and Quaker State oil filters (Honeywell owns Fram; Fram now manufactures oil filters for Quaker State, which are basically re-labelled Fram/Honeywell filters), they have very poor construction, everything is held with glue and often the glue separates parts and leak oil contaminents back into the engine).
So you admit to shoplifting?DominickJ30 wrote:I usually go to autozone, look at the book, find the valuecraft equivilant which is about $2.60, then I find the mobil 1 and simply switch the box.
Nothin better than a mobil 1 for less than 3 dollars.
True, Ontario and most of the other habitable Canadian provinces/territories usually have an extreme range of temperatures that can fluctuate qyite a bit. You can have a cold day where its 45 degrees fahrenheit and a extreme cold day the next where the temperature is well below in the minus fahernheit scale. Same deal in summer, a hot day followed by a very cold night.elan wrote:Defiant,
Besides the problem that driverdriver tells about (glue problem) may not be that big in california as it is in ontario. When it's getting colder and oil is freezing there are much more chances that it will tear off the stuff in the filter. I believe the temperature does not go that low in CA as it does in Ontario. In a colder climat it can happen often.
Without umbrage, this is the wrong place and time to start yet another extended, semi-imformed internet oil debate. Which they all seem to be.Quote »Besides the problem that driverdriver tells about (glue problem) may not be that big in california as it is in ontario. When it's getting colder and oil is freezing there are much more chances that it will tear off the stuff in the filter. I believe the temperature does not go that low in CA as it does in Ontario. In a colder climat it can happen often.[/quote]What? There's someone there who doesn't have a block heater?I'm sure even WIX filters fail. I just have nothing but rumor. Overnighters to Donner have been routine, although I wasn't up there for a party. Maybe I have filter luck to make up for the casinos.elan wrote:Defiant,
I believe it's not about additives only. As the engine get's older more and more exhaust producs trash the oil.
Block heaters aren't the norm. The manufacturers don't include them and very few people have them. I don't know any friends, family or colleagues at work with them. Most people simply switch to a 5w viscosity oil or lower or to a synthetic.Defiant wrote:What? There's someone there who doesn't have a block heater?
Actually no, shoplifting would be stealing the item alltogether, I just get it at a discount, lol.gr8scott72 wrote:So you admit to shoplifting?
Funny thing is last time I went there was already a valuecraft filter in the box! lolsyodawill2000 wrote:Bet the guy that gets the Valuecraft for the price of the Mobil1 would love to find you.
Shame.
Stealing is stealing, whatever way you do it. You might as well just stuff it down your pants and get it for free cause in my book it's the same thing.DominickJ30 wrote:Actually no, shoplifting would be stealing the item alltogether, I just get it at a discount, lol.
Ok, dad...gr8scott72 wrote:Stealing is stealing, whatever way you do it. You might as well just stuff it down your pants and get it for free cause in my book it's the same thing.
You need to grow up and get some character and integrity.
Please, do not start it then.Defiant wrote:Without umbrage, this is the wrong place and time to start yet another extended, semi-imformed internet oil debate. Which they all seem to be.
As it is said above most people do not have them. And none of my few friends in Ontario have them either.Defiant wrote:What? There's someone there who doesn't have a block heater?
After this thread, maybe we should insist on seeing inside the box.....93j30t wrote:just in case you want it... if you buy it use code NICO IS AWESOME for 1.00 off the auction