Official Altima Coupe Projector GB

[statik83]

Bina, interesting story. But dude... if your going to spend that much money on a custom made product you need to do your research. As soon as you noticed a problem with the product after recieving it you contact the maker. It was ok that you sent them back to get repaired but doing your homework prior, and maybe playing around with the lights would of helped prevent the headache. But again, you made a big mistake in not testing them after you recieved them from being "repaired". Sorry man, I feel your pain, but its all on you.

Brandon... don't disappoint me. jk lol

[brandonbeeb]

haha dont worry i wont, im actually working on a set as we speak ill make sure tons of pics are put up and you guys can see for yourself what im doing over here ill even show you the wiring. if you guys want more angles let me know, from now on any light that leaves here im going to ask you guys for input so there isnt any issues

[bina12834]

Bina, interesting story. But dude... if your going to spend that much money on a custom made product you need to do your research. As soon as you noticed a problem with the product after recieving it you contact the maker. It was ok that you sent them back to get repaired but doing your homework prior, and maybe playing around with the lights would of helped prevent the headache. But again, you made a big mistake in not testing them after you recieved them from being "repaired". Sorry man, I feel your pain, but its all on you.

Brandon... don't disappoint me. jk lol

i didnt feel the need to test them because he claimed that there was nothing wrong with them. plus they werent going back on my car anyways, so i didnt worry about it. and i dont understand why my playing around with my lights would have prevented said "headache." They still dont work for someone else, so it obviously wasnt just me.

and before you start telling me what i should and shouldnt have done before getting involved in this custom project, check you post count dude.

good luck with your lights if you ordered them through Brandon....youre going to need it.

[statik83]

lol I didnt know the amount of posts I have made determines how much I have modded my car. I have been in Iraq for the last 5 months first of all. My car is worth more then yours, so dont worry about my post count.

[LongBeachCoupe]

Fellas, lets not get in a bickering match...

A comment from someone who has the product in hand is a lot more reliable than someone whose never seen it in person.

The reliable commentary IMO is from people who ALREADY HAVE the headlights in hand... Once you have them, you can judge for yourself and post your feedback!

[statik83]

toshay LBC.

[Miss_Lanaya]

Ok so after reading the b*llsh*T back and forth... How come it took this long to state your opinion of the quality? I am part of this group buy and have been sitting here waiting for opinions etc. mean while fellow nico members who have their lights are not satisfied just sit on the side lines and dont speak up?WTF is up with this.

[bina12834]

Ok so after reading the b*llsh*T back and forth... How come it took this long to state your opinion of the quality? I am part of this group buy and have been sitting here waiting for opinions etc. mean while fellow nico members who have their lights are not satisfied just sit on the side lines and dont speak up?WTF is up with this.

you should have known something was up after there were not one but TWO outbursts from people about his products before i made this one.

[brandonbeeb]

is that so bina? the peole you said that had issues one of them has his lights here with me getting redone and supports me even sent me an email today saying so. the other one is comming in, mikes got a spare set i sent him, hes sending his other ones in for touch ups hopefully hes feeling better. i asked you many times if you where happy and you said yes. you even made a thread about them saying you liked them then all of a sudden your not happy with them and start bashing me, like grow up and send me an email and tell me you arnt happy so i can fix them before you go and sell them then start bashing me in public and make me look like the bad guy even though i offered to make any fixed. your telling me my wiring isnt great. i went out and got you plugs so you could run everything without any splicing yet it still isnt good enough. then you lie to me and tell me you need to sell your lights cause your broke but now it changes to your not happy. the sad part is i still offered to fix this even for the new buyer and there isnt anything in this for me, no extra money or nothing, just making sure someone is happy with there product. if the lights where that bad the guy wouldnt have bought them so something doesnt sound right here

[Miss_Lanaya]

did you post saying what you thought in the projector review thread, all I recall is angel eyes not working properly and condensation/seal issues - from what I gathered brandon was working with all of you guys to get sh*t cleared up.....then hush hush no one makes a peep....leaving me to think everything must have been resolved. Its not just you...yes other ppl spoke up but I dont know how anything played out after those outbursts, because no one really did a solid follow up with pics or anything.

[brandonbeeb]

well heres what bina wrote for everyone once he got the lights the first time which can be found in here. for you guys not to speak up after i send you something or tell me you like it when you really dont just hurts yourself in the end. when you get a product email me tell me how you like it ive said this a million times. if your not happy dont tell me you are, tell me the truth so we can fix it. here was bina posthey guys....got my lights today. upon initial inspection everything looks good. i would take some pics of them but they will look just like the pics in this thread....lol. if anyone wants any pics of anything different let me know and ill take it. ill take some more pics after the install.

http://forums.altimas.org/zerothread?id=384233

[brandonbeeb]

then another post by him

there was a small issue with the driver side angel eye, so i have to send that light back to brandon, but i can assure you it was not brandons fault. look at the pics above.....theyre of the driver side light with the angel eye working perfectly. when i got it the angel eye was flickering and wasnt lit up all the way. it seems like the wire connected to the angel eye got jostled lose somehow (im blaming USPS or the Canadian Post or maybe it was just a bad angel eye), because when i moved the one wire that was connected to the angel eye, it would act up. Besides that everything worked and looked perfect. i was disappointed when i saw the messed up angel eye because i put the passenger side light on first and had to take everything back off to put the stock headlights back on.

Once again....THIS IS NOT BRANDONS FAULT

[Coupeguy23]

did you post saying what you thought in the projector review thread, all I recall is angel eyes not working properly and condensation/seal issues - from what I gathered brandon was working with all of you guys to get sh*t cleared up.....then hush hush no one makes a peep....leaving me to think everything must have been resolved. Its not just you...yes other ppl spoke up but I dont know how anything played out after those outbursts, because no one really did a solid follow up with pics or anything.

Thats what im saying how come no one did a write up saying there unhappy. then when i post something asking for picture of ppls light i got nothing . i wise all ppl who all have the lights would just post picture and do a review of the lights and say if they are happy or not so we can clear the air

[brandonbeeb]

the guys that whernt happy have spoke up and asked me to correct the problems and i thank them for that. in the projector show of thread the people that have liked there lights have posted up pictures.

im just getting tired of people lieing and telling me they like it then finding out 3 months later they dont and that person bashing me. its like how many times do i have to tell you this, if you get something from me email me right away let me know your thoughts when it arrives instead of making some giant thread about it. email me tell me then well see what we can do, after that email me once you get it installed letting me know how the light patern is and if you have any questions on wiring or anything ive always been here to answer them.

the thing that bugs me is the band wagon jumpers i saw it happen to racingline, some guy bashed there part and went on and on and racing line appologized and offered to fix it for free but the guy still went after them even though he didnt even email them stating the problem he just made a thread about it, then other people jump on board and go after them aswell. at the start of this i had issues with surman and dangeris lights, there being corrected and i talk to dangeris every couple days. we had a rough start but where getting everything straightened out for him to make sure hes 100% happy with it, especially with all the money he has in his car and the upcomming shows he has, people will be able to see the lights from every angle so i want to make sure there perfect.

i want everyone to be happy with there lights, let me say this one more time I WANT EVERYONE TO BE HAPPY WITH THERE LIGHTS...... you guys are spending money for something and if you arnt happy tell me, dont hide it because in the end it will be you that ends up with something you dont like and an empty pocket. just send me an email ill even give you guys my cell number you can call me and talk to me if you like.

i still get emails every week to do lights about 5 a week even after guys have read the threads and seen people bashing on things and i ask them what they think about it and they say, its there fault for not speaking up when they got the part. we have new angel eyes, seals on lights are much better now then they where for the first couple sets, i have guys that got singles that are now comming back to me for dual setups so i guess with all the good comes some bad. i knew when we started this out of the 25 people there would be a few that whernt happy but for those few id make sure that it got resolved the best way we could and would do what ever i could to make sure they where happy at the end of the day

[dangeris]

Ok guys,..I've been monitoring this post but I had to come on here and say something. I haven't been feeling well these last couple of days but like LBC said, the only people who can actually comment on these headlights are the people who actually got them done and has seen them first hand. Yes Brandon and I got off on a rocky start but like he's said we've been communicating every couple of days and he statuses me with what's happening with my lights. I have to admit when I first got the lights i was disappointed although I told Brandon that I was happy with them. I guess I thought I was going to be able to "live" with the product but if you think about it, We're paying a lot of $$ for these lights to be done by Brandon and Brandon has to rely on us on feedback. Telling him that the lights look great when we get them then posting up the opposite is not helping anyone out. Truth in the matter, it feeds fuel to the fire.

My biggest concern of the lights were the seals. I know that Brandon was pressed for time when he did my lights. Yes he had them for three weeks but 2 of them were shipping time. Since I've voiced my concerns to Brandon, he's doing the best he can to resolve them. Keep in mind, I went and bought a new set of lights so I wouldn't be without. So since I have lights, I told Brandon to take his time. He's actually replaced almost everything on my lights and he's promised me that they will be "perfect". I know that word is relative but lets remember that he's had to crack these lights open so achieving a factory seal will not be possible. But in the same time, I don't expect to get my lights back with silicone all goobed and smeared all over the place. I thought the seal job he did on Mhedaddai lights looked great but everything looks good in pictures. it's when you have the product in your hand is when you can make an honest feedback and opinion.

I should be receiving my lights back soon but I've also told Brandon to take his time and get it close to perfect as he can. Once I get them, i will post up my initial inspection of the lights as well as install.

[mcheddadi]

Hey Guys, I know lots of peep have been waiting for my words.

This is for those who had their retrofit done and for the ones that are going to have theirs soon.

Projector retrofits really are a delicate thing to make and lond distance retrofits arn't the best thing to do. I can understand the frustration of some members if they have to send their lights back for service. When I had to send mine back for servicing it was sooo frustrating for me you have no idea. but it's the nature of the thing. I think we all have a better idea of all the variable in this. most people had really high expectation ( and I mean crazy high ) they expected better than OEM. and that can't be attained. the hype was too big. people don't realise that this is a HANDMADE product, that is made by a guy and not on a chain with molded plastics and computer controlled machines. with each retrofit Brandon got better and that is the normal process for this. he does great things but I think this was destined to be what it is with a high percentage of breaking and miss***s because no one was prepared for this. The lights are awesome, but I think the lesson I learned from all of this is to TAKE MAXIMUM CARE with long distance retrofits. I really hope you guys understand my point and see it as constructive and not as a negative review of brandon's work. Everyone should open their eyes to the fact that these are the factors involved in this and that in no way it could be otherwise.

Everyone should also try to minimise the hickups by buying a spare set of lights in case anything goes bad, to pack the box the best they can and to go get comfortable with the idea that the seal will be different and that the back side will have wire hanging from it.

The more prepared everyone is the better it will go for them.

Splicing is required, spending money on boxes, shipping and packing material is required, bumper removal is required, and finally, downtime is going to happen if you don't buy a spare set of headlights or if you need servicing. If you are PREPARED and you do what you have to do, there will be No probs at all and the lights you will recive will work and you will be happy. Don't expect OEM seals or plug and play, it's not going to be OEM.

I'd like anyone to ask all the questions or give all the constructive comments they want since this is our forum and we can talk all we want about anything. Speak up guys!

[dangeris]

Well Said Mcheddadi!

There's always some risks involve no matter what it pertains to. These are handmade so each one is unique and that's what we were all paying for. A lot of the frustrations came form sending the lights back for servicing thus leaving the user with no lights in the interim. I suggested to Brandon that he should offer a spare set of lights when we he does a retro, of course not for free but with a core charge which the customer would get back once Brandon gets the spare lights back. That would alleviate some frustrations. Of course they can opt out of the extra set of lights but the consumer needs to know the risks and if they are willing to take on that risk it is on them, not Brandon and they can't be rushing Brandon to get the job done; hence the reason for offering the extra set of lights.

As for wiring, this is a 12V positive and negative connection but to some, who has never done any kind of automotive wiring, this may be a project for them. I know that a member who had their lights done had Brandon do the install for them since they were reluctant of doing it themselves. Some people expect plug and play but sometimes that's not feasible and requires a little bit of auto-electrical knowledge.

As for bina selling his lights to someone else well that's bina's call. Perhaps he didn't want to deal with the lights anymore and like he said needed the money but I think it was very stand up of Brandon to have Bina forward his info so he can continue his warranty to a second party buyer. I ask you, how many retrofitters do you know would do that? Usually the warranty only applies to the original purchaser.

I think Brandon is doing the best he can and is improving with every light he's doing. He's only human and thus is prone to some imperfection. You don't know how many compliments I've gotten about the lights either form locals or people seeing them on cardomain. To me I think the lights look awesome when i had them and can't wait to get them back from Brandon.

[bina12834]

lol I didnt know the amount of posts I have made determines how much I have modded my car. I have been in Iraq for the last 5 months first of all. My car is worth more then yours, so dont worry about my post count.

i dont care how much your car costs. i was with this project from the beginning and you hop in now and try to tell me what to do. know your place dude.

[gli liphon]

gli liphon. According to what you said. In this case, ground kit would help to maintain the 12 voltage ?

Honestly, I don't know. The first thing people need to realize is that 12v is just an average and most cars (especially imports) put out around 14.4v most of the time. I have a grounding kit and will be installing it this spring so I can do some tests. Or if there's anyone else out there that has a grounding kit installed, throw a voltmeter on a few different light sockets and see what you get. Although I haven't tested it I'd guess that the grounding kit isn't really going to make a difference when it comes to voltage regulation. I think it would make more of a difference with current regulation. Having a "cleaner" path to ground is going to allow for an improved current output. This makes sense with what people have reported after installing the kit. Specifically things like louder radio and faster HID ignite time would be caused by an increase in current, not an increase in voltage.

The only reason I mentioned this is because part of the issue between bina and brandon could be in the way they are testing. If brandon is using a standard 12v source, its entirely possible that bina hooking up to his car he would get different results.

I'll be the first to admit that when I started my projects I really had the same thoughts that this is just a 12v power supply. Its not. Its not supposed to be. You're dealing with a complex portable electrical system that adjusts to changing operating environments and inputs. Meh, I don't need to clog up brandons thread with electrical discussions, if people have questions or want other info, just contact me directly.

I did want to link the power supply that I picked for testing that can accurately replicate the changing voltage of the car. This isn't something everyone needs to have, but if you're producing mods like this, I've found it to be invaluable as well as time saving since I don't have to go out and hook things up to my car a bunch of times. This will do 0-18v and 0-3A, both of which are independently adjustable. Plus it just looks fancy with those digital readouts.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CSQK5E

[bina12834]

the sad part is i still offered to fix this even for the new buyer and there isnt anything in this for me, no extra money or nothing, just making sure someone is happy with there product. if the lights where that bad the guy wouldnt have bought them so something doesnt sound right here

yea the guy is half way across the world. he doesnt want to spend the time to send them all the way back here and wait for everything. What i dont understand is that when i sent them to you the first time, you said there was nothing wrong with the angel eyes. now youre asking to have the lights back so you can figure out the problem? It seems to me like you should have found out the problem THE FIRST TIME they were sent to you. i gave him your email, and told him to email you if he wanted. Im not going to pester him about emailing you. He has your email....thats it. If he wants to contact you fine, but obviously if he hasnt already, he doesnt care enough to email you. He said hes going to try to get the issue fixed by a shop around him, so drop it.

and yea, hes really happy with the lights with the exception of the halo. i never said that no other person wouldnt be happy with them....i just said that I wasnt happy with them. Personally i think that if im spending this much money on a product, i shouldnt have to send back the product for it to get fixed. It should be perfect the first time i get it. I wouldnt expect to have to send back a product that i spent that much money on. i dont understand what the big problem with these halos are. apparently you knew that the batch was bad, but yet you still were putting them in peoples lights. and its crap that these halos are getting broken durring shipping....all of these aftermarket companies that make headlights with projectors and halos for other cars never have an issue with shipping.....why do you?

[bina12834]

As for bina selling his lights to someone else well that's bina's call. Perhaps he didn't want to deal with the lights anymore and like he said needed the money but I think it was very stand up of Brandon to have Bina forward his info so he can continue his warranty to a second party buyer. I ask you, how many retrofitters do you know would do that? Usually the warranty only applies to the original purchaser.

I sent the guy Brandons email address before i even posted on here yesterday. The guy doesnt want to have to deal with sending the lights half way around the world for something as little as a halo. I understand this because i was upset about having sending them from the US to mini-US, which is nothing compared to the lengths they would have to travel to get from my buyer to Brandon.

[bina12834]

i love how everyone is saying "what did you expect from a guy handmaking lights in his house? You cant expect OEM seals and plug and play." Compare a LightWerkz projector retrofit to one of Brandons retrofit. its like night and day. sure Lightwerkz is a little more expensive, but his work is quality. and in reality, i paid just as much for Brandons work so it woudl have cost me to get my lights done by Lightwerkz.

[brandonbeeb]

bina, you sit there and knock on quality then i offer to help the guy out and your making it seem like im doing it because i never did it in the first place, how did you pay more then lightwerkz. you covered shipping to and from me and had a low beam setup. your cost was under 600 bucks and yet you say you spent 1500? somethings a little off. then you say my quality is garbage and make it sound like no one would want it but the guy that bought them loves them and look at your posts i found up above, first you said you loved them and said the angel eye was from shipping now that youve sold them youve just decided to blame everything on me. seriously dude im sick of your 2 sided complaining. if offered to send the new guy a new ballast and angel eye free of charge, ive asked you hundreds of times when you had the lights what you thought and you lied to me, then you sit here and openly bash me online i guess its easy when your hiding behind a computer. dangeris said it best and hes not going to sit there and be one sided and favour me especially after the issue we had in the start, like is this ever going to end with you or am i going to have to come on here everyday, every hour to see what your going on about now. let it go ive offered to correct the problem, we get it you whernt happy. stop trying to get everyone to jump on board with your bandwagon. you whernt happy with the lights the guy you sold them to was. maybe you just pre judged everything from the start after the first incident and had it in your mind no matter how nice they where you wouldnt like them. this is all im writing, i dont have time to waste on you i got other things here i could do. you should have been truthful the first time i asked you about the lights, how can i fix something if you tell me your happy especially when you write things like this.

hey guys....got my lights today. upon initial inspection everything looks good. i would take some pics of them but they will look just like the pics in this thread....lol. if anyone wants any pics of anything different let me know and ill take it. ill take some more pics after the install.

and this

there was a small issue with the driver side angel eye, so i have to send that light back to brandon, but i can assure you it was not brandons fault. look at the pics above.....theyre of the driver side light with the angel eye working perfectly. when i got it the angel eye was flickering and wasnt lit up all the way. it seems like the wire connected to the angel eye got jostled lose somehow (im blaming USPS or the Canadian Post or maybe it was just a bad angel eye), because when i moved the one wire that was connected to the angel eye, it would act up. Besides that everything worked and looked perfect. i was disappointed when i saw the messed up angel eye because i put the passenger side light on first and had to take everything back off to put the stock headlights back on.

Once again....THIS IS NOT BRANDONS FAULT

[brandonbeeb]

and from now on anyone that wants to do a core exchange is more then welcome as i have a few sets of lights here. majority is 2.5 lights but the only thing different is the ballast mounting point and we can arrange something on the 2.5 lights for a mount. i wont even do a core charge just a shipping charge, if that doesnt show you how much i want these to work for you guys and the risk im taking, you could walk of with a set of lights and id be left with an empty pocket.

[bina12834]

bina, you sit there and knock on quality then i offer to help the guy out and your making it seem like im doing it because i never did it in the first place, how did you pay more then lightwerkz. you covered shipping to and from me and had a low beam setup. your cost was under 600 bucks and yet you say you spent 1500? somethings a little off.

ok lets see...

$625 for the parts and labor$200 to pay for initial shipping to you and back to me$300 for a brand new spare set of headlights so i wouldnt have any down time (which were the ones that i sent you for the retrofit)$100 for a pair of Philips 85122+ D2S bulbs off of ebay$20 for a pair of harnesses to hook up the projectors to my aftermarket ballasts off of ebay$30 for the "split" shipping charge since "nothing was wrong with the halo"

sure i could have only spent the $625 for your parts and labor, but then i wouldnt have been able to ship the lights to you, i would have not had my car for MONTHS without a spare set of headlights, i wouldnt have had any bulbs or ways to hook up the headlights to my car. Sure you offered to sell me "aftermarket" bulbs and the harnesses to hook up the projectors to my aftermarket ballasts, but i bought better bulbs and the same harnesses for cheaper off of ebay.

and something that i havent mentioned is that throughout the whole entire process, you were trying to get me to change my mind about what i wanted. i wanted the FX bi-xenon projectors with the clear TSX lenses, but you kept trying to push BMW E38 or whatever they were projectors on me saying that they were better. please...i did my research and know that the "TFX" projectors are only beat by the S2000 projectors. its like every decision i made, you would try to get me to do something else.

[brandonbeeb]

hate to break it to you but i told you to go ebay route cause it would be faster and most likely cheaper then getting through me. the sad part is you over payed for the bulbs since i can get them through my guy at 40 a pair ask spock i got him a set of phillips and they where the + ones not the regular that colour shift quickly

[bina12834]

hate to break it to you but i told you to go ebay route cause it would be faster and most likely cheaper then getting through me. the sad part is you over payed for the bulbs since i can get them through my guy at 40 a pair ask spock i got him a set of phillips and they where the + ones not the regular that colour shift quickly

you didnt tell me SH*T about going to ebay!!!!! you kept trying to get me to buy your "aftermarket" bulbs saying that they were better than the Philips 85122+ bulbs, which everyone that knows anything about bulbs, knows that that is BS. Nothing can beat the Philips bulbs.

[bina12834]

im done with this thread....its like arguing with a 10 year old

ive voiced my opinion, and thats all i wanted to do.

[dangeris]

ok guys,..we can point the finger at each other all day long. Truth in the matter is Brandon is doing the best he can on these lights even going to the point of not even charging a core for spare lights so no one would get stranded without them.

Bina, I don't blame you or the guy you sold your lights to not wanting to deal with sending the lights back to Brandon all for just a halo. I'm sure the downtime was not appealing to him as it was with you. I am grateful though that you did give him Brandon's email and perhaps this can be resolved by Brandon sending him an inverter. A lot cheaper than sending lights and eliminates the possibilities of the halo being damaged in transit.

All I can say is guys, once you get your lights, inspect them closely and post up your findings upon initial inspection so everyone knows what to expect when they get their lights. Also, if there is deficiencies, let Brandon know and at least give him the benefit of trying to fix them before negative comments are posted. I think that's fair...what do you guys think?

[brandonbeeb]

dangeris well said. if someone has an issue send me an email and let me know whats up before making some giant post over something that can be solved. i have no problem sending him an angel eye and ballast so he can match them instead of having 2 different ones and the colours maybe being off aswell. it could be an inside connector on the angel eye that came off it could be anything but if they can fix it he has a spare angel eye and inverter for the future. i would never say an aftermarket bulb is better then a phillips. alot of people ask me which way to go for bulbs, i suggest aftermarket alot because you can choose the colour, there alot cheaper and you get warranty on a brand new bulb, sometimes lifetime warrantty on ddm bulbs. the problem with oem bulbs is you never know how long they where truley used for and could burn out after a week.