Official 2011-13 M56/Q70 5.6L Timing Chain Recall Discussion

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Official 2011-13 M56/Q70 5.6L Timing Chain Recall Discussion

Postby biggie » Wed May 18, 2016 6:42 am

It is official as of May 5th, 2016 that there is a voluntary recall to replace the timing chain.

http://www.infinitiusa.com/recalls-vin#/

Infiniti ID: P6305



Just set up mine for next week. They said it will take a full week to make the repair.
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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby Debonair » Wed May 18, 2016 7:23 am

Yeah, we have been discussing it in the 2011 M56 Engine Noise thread. It's probably good you made a dedicated thread for it, though. Much easier for people to spot.

A week to finish huh, wow. I need to schedule mine for next month when my wife is out of town so I can use here car, assuming I get no loaner.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby lovemycarM35 » Wed May 18, 2016 7:49 am

is this only for certain vins for the M56?and does the affect the 2011 M37?

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby Debonair » Wed May 18, 2016 7:53 am

lovemycarM35 wrote:is this only for certain vins for the M56?and does the affect the 2011 M37?
5.6L in various models (M56, QX56, etc). You can check by VIN using the link Biggie posted above.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby biggie » Wed May 18, 2016 8:33 am

Believe it is all of the M56s though. And is for the same years of QX56.

I missed that other thread.

Had others say on the FB page that only took them a day to complete, so we'll see how long it takes on mine, dropping off on Monday. Have to have a loaner.

Currently have a Q70 3.7 as a loaner since wife's QX56 had both Cats go bad. She is driving my M56S, I miss it. When parked beside each other noticed how much lower the M56S is compared to base 3.7 Q70. The Q70 is very soft/floaty feeling.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby lovemycarM35 » Wed May 18, 2016 9:52 am

I have an M37 so maybe this doesn't apply but you would think the timing train assembly would be the same right

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby Debonair » Wed May 18, 2016 10:09 am

lovemycarM35 wrote:I have an M37 so maybe this doesn't apply but you would think the timing train assembly would be the same right
Both use timing chains but are not closely related engines; the VQ 3.7 is not based on the VK 5.6 or vice-versa. Also, the 3.7 is not known to experience the same issues that prompted Infiniti to issue a recall on the 5.6L timing chains and hardware.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby lovemycarM35 » Wed May 18, 2016 11:01 am

I see thank you for that information

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby jmissile » Wed May 18, 2016 6:25 pm

They're telling me 2-3 days, alternate transportation provided.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby armybrat » Wed May 18, 2016 6:26 pm

Debonair wrote:...I need to schedule mine for next month when my wife is out of town so I can use here car, assuming I get no loaner.
Your dealership should furnish you a loaner, if you schedue your timing chain service (or any service for that matter) in advance. My dealership furnished me a new Q70L to drive while I had my timimg chain recall work done.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby Ilya » Wed May 18, 2016 7:30 pm

Yep, I was told I'd get a Q70 to drive while mine was there. Waiting for an actual date to get scheduled.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby ibc » Fri May 20, 2016 9:13 am

Thanks to "biggie" for posting this. :-)

My M56x has an appointment to "meet its maker" in 2 weeks.
They're gonna fix the timing chain (ID: P6305) and
also fix the fuel rail pressure sensor (ID: R1202) at the same time.

FYI, Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor (ID: R1202) is a Voluntary Safety Recall = ITB12-010a (at no charge for P&L).

I didn't notice any other voluntary recalls that seemed important. Are there any?

I found 2 other Voluntary Service Campaigns that I'll probably ignore for now:
a) Call-Waiting Function Navigation Update = ITB11-046a (ID: P1235)
b) Bluetooth Sound Quality = ITB11047a (ID: P1239)

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby Ilya » Fri May 20, 2016 9:39 am

I'm having the following done if they are applicable:

o ITB11-047b (Bluetooth Sound Quality)
o ITB12-021B (for M37 ECU/TCU software but I seem to have some of the same lag and hesitation)
o ITB11-046a (Call Waiting Navigation Update)
o ITB12-010a/ITB15-017 (Fuel Rail Re-torque)
o ITB10-040 (Air/Fuel Ratio Sensor)

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby tlaspec » Fri May 20, 2016 7:19 pm

Does anyone know if this recall is the same as the timing chain whine tsb? I have heard conflicting information and my dealer in Canada does not have the parts list for the recall available yet.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby Ilya » Fri May 20, 2016 7:56 pm

I believe it should be the same as the whine is what most QX56 models experience...

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby ibc » Fri May 20, 2016 9:08 pm

Ilya, I can't find the TSB for ITB10-040 (Air/Fuel Ratio Sensor) anywhere. But I will ask Infiniti about it.
Is it a recall too? And is P&L covered?

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby Ilya » Fri May 20, 2016 9:39 pm

Not sure what's covered but I found it on some site when searching for stuff to have them do while I'm there lol. Forget which site. I don't think it's a TSB...it's an ITB which I guess is a little different. Not sure what they pay for, etc.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby Debonair » Fri May 20, 2016 10:35 pm

Ilya wrote:Not sure what's covered but I found it on some site when searching for stuff to have them do while I'm there lol. Forget which site. I don't think it's a TSB...it's an ITB which I guess is a little different. Not sure what they pay for, etc.
This is for all 2011's and its just a reflash for the ECM. They check if it has the new flash, if not they flash it. It pays .4 hours.

  • Due to a software irregularity on certain model year 2011 M56 vehicles, the Engine Control Module (ECM) may incorrectly store a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC P0133 and/or P0153) for the Air Fuel Ratio Sensor and turn ON the Service Engine Soon light on the instrument panel. To remedy this potential condition, Infiniti is conducting this voluntary service campaign to reprogram the Engine Control Module (ECM) at no charge for parts or labor.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby Ilya » Sat May 21, 2016 8:05 am

Yeah I'll need to flash my UpRev back to my stock tune so it looks OEM to them.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby adeedpb » Sat May 21, 2016 11:32 am

Ilya wrote:Yeah I'll need to flash my UpRev back to my stock tune so it looks OEM to them.
Me too, don't want them catching wind of that.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby Ilya » Sat May 21, 2016 11:43 am

If someone was to go in there with an edited ECU software, they'd deny warranty so quick it'd make our head spin hahah even though this issue is strictly mechanical.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby BlackCat81 » Sat May 21, 2016 7:11 pm

Just for you UpRev guys, there's absolutely no way to tell what program is in the car. Don't worry about having it flashed back stock. The only way to tell what programming is in the car is by viewing the current ECM/TCM/whatever module is being programmed part number. I'd assume UpRev doesn't change part numbers.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby BlackCat81 » Sat May 21, 2016 7:15 pm

Debonair wrote:Yeah, we have been discussing it in the 2011 M56 Engine Noise thread. It's probably good you made a dedicated thread for it, though. Much easier for people to spot.

A week to finish huh, wow. I need to schedule mine for next month when my wife is out of town so I can use here car, assuming I get no loaner.
A week seems excessive. Most of us can get them done in about a day and a half or so. And the M56's are much easier to do than the QX56's.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby armybrat » Sun May 22, 2016 6:31 pm

BlackCat81 wrote:A week seems excessive. Most of us can get them done in about a day and a half or so. And the M56's are much easier to do than the QX56's.
I dropped mine off on a late Wednesday afternoon, and it was done the next Tuesday around lunchtime. My understanding is that the front sub frame was dropped and driveshaft disconnected. There was about 58 parts total that was replaced, including the fluids (rear diff, trans, transfer case since mine was an X, PS, engine oil and coolant) which is why mine took as long as it did. The video I saw of the QX56 being done didn't required the engine being dropped.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby Ilya » Sun May 22, 2016 7:17 pm

Wow, they change all those fluids? NICE! Even better lol. I just had mine done 15kmi or so ago but I didn't do the PS.

Steve, do you know if I brought in Mobil 1 and a filter they'd use that instead of Nissan genuine oil?

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby Frog » Sun May 22, 2016 9:15 pm

Since so many parts are changed compared to the service bulletin some one needs to ask if we have had the SB should we get the recall ? Or do we need the recall to be done?

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby biggie » Mon May 23, 2016 5:52 am

Knew they were changing some fluids, I confirmed they'd have to change the oil since I was due for a change and would normally do it myself.

They had to change my appt to this coming Friday due to another M56 being there for the recall, shocking since there is only 1-2 other M56 in my area.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby BlackCat81 » Mon May 23, 2016 6:59 am

Frog wrote:Since so many parts are changed compared to the service bulletin some one needs to ask if we have had the SB should we get the recall ? Or do we need the recall to be done?
The cars/trucks that have had the service bulletin done are going to need to be redone.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby BlackCat81 » Mon May 23, 2016 7:01 am

Ilya wrote:Wow, they change all those fluids? NICE! Even better lol. I just had mine done 15kmi or so ago but I didn't do the PS.

Steve, do you know if I brought in Mobil 1 and a filter they'd use that instead of Nissan genuine oil?
Shouldn't be an issue.

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Re: 2011-13 M56 timing chain recall

Postby Ilya » Mon May 23, 2016 8:12 am

BlackCat81 wrote:
Ilya wrote:Wow, they change all those fluids? NICE! Even better lol. I just had mine done 15kmi or so ago but I didn't do the PS.

Steve, do you know if I brought in Mobil 1 and a filter they'd use that instead of Nissan genuine oil?
Shouldn't be an issue.
Cool. I'll bring in my own stuff for that then, all others I let them use the OEM stuff.


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