(Off Topic) I need a sci-fair project...

[nametakennow]

I'm desperate here, the idea and a few other things are due a week from today... It's gotta be at least remotely interesting and not hard. (Remember, I'm 15 and in High School, nothing crazy.)

[nametakennow]

: : Bangs head against desk : : This is one of those few times where I really hate High School...

[12second240]

a little vinegar a little baking soda a little colouring and a little paper mache, and you have one hell of a science fair project

[12second240]

oh yah that makes a volcano sorry

[`def-zero]

nametakenow: do somthing that you can research and that would not bore you out of your mind. heres a couple ideas:

-Relation between tq, hp, weight, and 1/2 mile time-Dynamics of drifting - from a physics and automotive aspect-If you have a NITRO ICE remotecontrol car or somthing with a small ICE you can do somthing about ICE's.

thats all that comes to mind right now.. i need to do senior projects next semester... im 16.

[12second240]

BOOOjuss make a huge mess and build your self one hell of a volcano!!

[nametakennow]

Thanks def', I was hoping someone would think of something automotive related. My friend just suggested building a model turbo (if you'll check myu sig, I have a thing for turbos) and explaining how it works and maybe I could show (but how?) how it improves performance... hmm... Now I'm having trouble remembering what ICE is... I feel stupid.Any more suggestions?

[sultan]

put nitrous on the volcano for an extra boost.

[nametakennow]

And call it the nawwwwssss volcano!

[`def-zero]

I say take the cheap route, somthing along the lines of a hair dryer with a air filter... maybe belt driven, you could use like a rollerskate wheel for the belt track, or you could make an electric one, as long as u have somthing to prove the performance gains of forced induction u should be fine. the scientific aspect of it is quite simple but you want to have some actual physical representation.

[nametakennow]

A visual is required, so I'd have to build something. Hmm... I'm starting to like this idea.

[`def-zero]

well if it doesent have to be actually implemented you could build just like a hair dryer demo turbo that WOULD work if u set it up right but i dont think it would be nessisary to actually set it up and run tests because dyno'ing isnt exactly cheap and practical. but as long as it would produce some sort of airflow out of one end your pretty much good to go. im sure it wouldent be super hard because hairdryers are similar in function to turbos only for much different applications.

[nametakennow]

My bro claims it can't be done, not sure why... anyone know why he would say that?

[`def-zero]

i know people that have done it before. ask your brother why he thinks it cant be done and ill prove him wrong =) if you open up one side of a hairdryer (the intake side) then put your air filter over it then on the other side of the turbine run metal rod out attatched to your mechanism for turning this thing (belt whatever) then when the turbo spins it will suck air in through the intake side let it out of the place where the air is supposed to come out of the hair dryer... of course you would take out all the mechanisms for heating the air and so on but the basis is still the same. it works.

[`def-zero]

im not saying your gonna gain a ton of HP (maybe like 5 if the thing even holds together) but its stll forced induction.

[nametakennow]

I'll talk to my sci teacher tomorrow and ask him what he thinks of it. I'll either end up with a fun project or still looking and probably end up with some crap I'm not really interested in...

[`def-zero]

just make sure u mention the science aspect like more CO into your engine bigger boom blah blah blah.

[`def-zero]

K-Car.. in order to determine the "Correlation Between Improved Airflow And Power Output In Internal Combustion Engines" you would need to do more than one trial. you said ICE's an thats a broad field.. sounds more like a college level automotive paper to me.

[TrueSlide]

How bout study the power improved from some honda stickers!! Dyno your car, throw a Type R sticker on it, dyno it again and do a report on the increased power it gave you! "Sticker and Power Output in Internal Combustion Engines"

[sultan]

you could also examine the effects of stickers on car performance. measure 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, put on some stickers and then measure again. call it the ricer effect if there is a change.

[sultan]

aww crap, you beat me to it trueslide.

[nametakennow]

I now have my mom's old hairdryer. If I removed the heating element, then opened it up a bit so it would be easier to see... hmmmm....

[nametakennow]

How bout study the power improved from some honda stickers!! Dyno your car, throw a Type R sticker on it, dyno it again and do a report on the increased power it gave you! "Sticker and Power Output in Internal Combustion Engines"

Had you read, you might have noticed that I'm 15, and thus don't have a car... yet...

[TrueSlide]

do it on a friends car. On a v8 then a honda then a gremlin and compare the results, or maybe try your neighbors minivan. Im just trying to help

[nametakennow]

It'd be funny, and thanks, but I don't think most people wouldlet me touch their cars. The rice count here is so high anyway, it wouldn't be considered an experiment, everyone knows stickers make you faster...

[nametakennow]

That's my point K, I don't. Doesn't mean I can't do something automotive related, just means I'm very limited in that field.

[`def-zero]

ICE = Internal Combustion Engine... thats basically every automotive engine... maybe if u said somthing like a specific engine or a type of engine, i always learned not to make my Thesis to broad.

[nametakennow]

Stupid hairdryer, It's a good setup, wheel in the back, heat in the front, but its got this stupid screen and its hard to take apart. Time to get something to pry it open, assuming my sci teacher approves it. My bro thinks I'm psycho-little-punk-with-too-broad/difficult-an-idea.

[`def-zero]

nah its not that hard its just u need to be able to engineer it so it actually looks like it will work.

[nametakennow]

So... I take the heating element out, then what? I wish I could find a diagram, but I can't.