Obama Picture. Release the dogs!

[dusred]

If I'm not mistaken that title reads "The Post American World"; and according to my knowledge it's a Muslim's view of defeating America from within.

Let the dogs upon the picture. Is it a real picture or a photochop? If it's real is that the kind of books we want our President reading? I think not.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

I own a copy of the Communist Manifesto. Know thy enemy.

That said, if that's real (doesn't look like it), it's a Biden-esque SNAFU.

[audtatious]

It's real but the book is not what you may think it is. It's a non-issue.

[marlin29311]

This doesn't phase me, even if its real. It's a good idea to read about the things that people want to try to do/would do if situations were different. That's more like background reading that it is "ZOMGWTFBBQ im taking over the world!"

[AZhitman]

Yeah, no biggie for me.

There. You damned libby crybabies can sit and spin on THAT statement, since we're all such a bunch of "non-issue-raising Right wing whackos".

I'm more concerned about what comes out of his mouth than what goes in through his eyes.

[Cold_Zero]

When he quotes Saul Alinksky's 'Rules for Radicals', that is a problem.

[Axel Grungy]

its probably a chop. The book looks a little too sharp at that distance.

[OriginalWheelman]

Assuming the book is what you say it is, reading ti is not an issue, agreeing with it would be.

[480sx]

its probably a chop. The book looks a little too sharp at that distance.

Gona agree with that.

Even if it isnt, still a non issue.

[dusred]

The book its self may be a Non-issue but that coupled with Obama's terrorlst friend(s) and other things like not holding his hand over his heart during the National Anthem, and refusing to wear a flag pin (which IMO shows dis-respect for the flag) makes me think it's not just a Non-Issue.

[takethewall]

I find that it's a good thing he would read a book like that.

Do we really want a president that only understands American thoughts? I feel like reading up on the enemies isn't a bad thing.

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So I read about what this book is...My bad for posting before being educated about the book...

This book is about the fall of America on the world stage. It's not about terrorlst groups trying to create a world without America, but rather how our slowing of progress and the great advancements of other nations are causing us to fall behind. It's about how we as Americans are creating a post American world.

Modified by takethewall at 12:13 PM 11/3/2008
Modified by takethewall at 12:18 PM 11/3/2008

[dusred]

I find that it's a good thing he would read a book like that.

Do we really want a president that only understands American thoughts? I feel like reading up on the enemies isn't a bad thing...

He does more then just read up on them. He makes friends with them and goes to their churches.

[barrigas14]

I have the Qur'an...am I a radical now?

[WDRacing]

I read all kinds of stuff, I even watch things online that are simply horrific in some peoples eyes.

In the end, who gives a crap.

Even if he was THE MUSLIM terrorlst, he couldn't destroy America in 4 years. He'd be impeached LONG before...don't think there aren't Conservatives watching his every move now and after he takes office...err if he takes office. You know what I mean...

[Cold_Zero]

Even if he was THE MUSLIM terrorlst, he couldn't destroy America in 4 years. He'd be impeached LONG before...don't think there aren't Conservatives watching his every move now and after he takes office...err if he takes office. You know what I mean...

Brian,I would like to think that you are spot on with your comment, if good American politicians and citizens exercise their civic duties. But looking back through history, outside of the United States you can see examples where just four years of one leader can be catastrophic for a country or the world. Hitler is an extreme example. He was elected amid a financial crisis. He was a very popular leader inside German and out, was even recognized as 'Time's Man of the Year' in 1938. An in his years prior to the annexation of Austria and the invasion of the Sudetenland, he did a lot to destabilize German and Europe, consolidate power and pave the way for war.Now Obama is not national socialist and I am not implying that he is anything like Hitler. The brand of socialism that he is trained in and possible ascribes to is nothing near National Socialism. But the example does stand, under the right conditions and a lack of knowledge of history, a figure like Hitler can be put into power in the United States. Especially when good politicians and citizens fail to act to keep government accountable for their actions and remove such people when they are in office.

I guess the kick in the teeth is that my Opa fought socialism in the form of National Socialism in France/Germany and National/Military Socialism when he occupied Japan, and my father fought socialism in the form of Communism in Western Europe and Southeast Asia. And now we have the mentality here that the idea has not been successful because it has not been fully attempted by the United States of America.

[szh]

I have the Qur'an...am I a radical now?

I hope not! I'd be in deep s*** too.

Z

[dusred]

In the end, who gives a crap.

Me. I don't want my president reading material on how to destroy my country.

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Even if he was THE MUSLIM terrorlst, he couldn't destroy America in 4 years. [/quote]*AHEM*

4 years is ample time to totally destroy a country.

[Cold_Zero]

I have the Qur'an...am I a radical now?

Nah, reading the Bible and ascribing to its principals make you a radical.bud

[smockers83]

And I have Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler. I am not a Nazi nor do I approve of Hitler, Nazis, or even neo-Nazis. Its just interesting to know what's going on with the other side, and as a leader, it would be good to educate yourself to understand where people are coming from that hate you.

[szh]

Me. I don't want my president reading material on how to destroy my country.

Hmmm ... I will play Devil's advocate here for a moment - even though the book is not what it is purported to be.

If it had been, though, why not? I think it is okay for Obama (or any other POTUS, for that matter) to learn and understand how other people believe that they can destroy my country. This particular thing - even if it had been the case that it was what was originally believed - would not be an important issue for me.

My thoughts:

1. "Know thy enemy and know thy self and you will win a hundred battles". The Art of War, by Sun Tsu Wu.

2. "Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer". Origin unknown (usually mis-attributed to Sun Tsu).

Z

[dusred]

Okay, Okay. He may have business reading such books but the reason (as I've already said) that it looks stupid (is that the right word?) is because of his terrorlst ties and his ties with the American hating Pastor.

[WDRacing]

Me. I don't want my president reading material on how to destroy my country.

*AHEM*

4 years is ample time to totally destroy a country.

I don't wanna argue the minutia with you, but at the Air War college they would prefer you read everything there is to read about your enemy, to include their doctrine. There is a long list of recommended reading, and by that I mean mandatory.

Also, don't pretend to explain to me how long it takes to destroy a Nation. I've witnessed many bombs drop in my day and I've dropped of CIA operators in bad places with big guns only to later read about the assassination of some rogue threat. I KNOW what can be done.

My point was that we aren't sitting around blind folded, we aren't some all trusting Nation that will sit back and watch our Country destroyed. There will be people that will act, there are rules/laws/regulations in order to pass further rules/laws/regulations. Which would have to be done in order to truly destroy the Nation. He isn't going to open up the flood gates so that Al Qaeda can just stroll in here and blow up the entire United States.

Is he "possibly" holding a bad book? Yup, but it really depends on the person. You obviously think it's detrimental to our well being, and that is your right. Someone has to keep an eye on this type of thing. I'm to busy to give a crap about something I feel is inconsequential.

Peace I'm OUT

[AZhitman]

Yeah, no biggie for me.

There. You damned libby crybabies can sit and spin on THAT statement, since we're all such a bunch of "non-issue-raising Right wing whackos".

I'm more concerned about what comes out of his mouth than what goes in through his eyes.

[dusred]

I don't wanna argue the minutia with you, but at the Air War college they would prefer you read everything there is to read about your enemy, to include their doctrine. There is a long list of recommended reading, and by that I mean mandatory.

Also, don't pretend to explain to me how long it takes to destroy a Nation. I've witnessed many bombs drop in my day and I've dropped of CIA operators in bad places with big guns only to later read about the assassination of some rogue threat. I KNOW what can be done.

My point was that we aren't sitting around blind folded, we aren't some all trusting Nation that will sit back and watch our Country destroyed. There will be people that will act, there are rules/laws/regulations in order to pass further rules/laws/regulations. Which would have to be done in order to truly destroy the Nation. He isn't going to open up the flood gates so that Al Qaeda can just stroll in here and blow up the entire United States.

Is he "possibly" holding a bad book? Yup, but it really depends on the person. You obviously think it's detrimental to our well being, and that is your right. Someone has to keep an eye on this type of thing. I'm to busy to give a crap about something I feel is inconsequential.

Peace I'm OUT

I too, rest my case.

[WDRacing]

I too, rest my case.

[Vista Sucks!]

I agree with everyone else in this thread. BFD.

I'm glad you're not allowed to vote for the President of the United States today, dusred. Maybe you'll be more mature in four more years.

[rjdmmfl1]

I agree with everyone else in this thread. BFD.

I'm glad you're not allowed to vote for the President of the United States today, dusred. Maybe you'll be more mature in four more years.

We shouldn't be glad he can't vote... these forums, while politically charged, can be a source of knowledge also. I'm sure this ytoung man has never read Shogun or Art of War, but in reading books about dealing with foes, you become more aware of what your enemy may try. WD racing expressed this same thing in his comments. And now, dsured has learned something!

[WDRacing]

Knowledge is power...

[Vista Sucks!]

Just look through his postings in the Politics forum and you'll see why I made such a statement. He's a poster who calls members "little yellow chickens." nuff said.

[rjdmmfl1]

Just look through his postings in the Politics forum and you'll see why I made such a statement. He's a poster who calls members "little yellow chickens." nuff said.

oh ok, i gotcha... but again, I do hope he learns something from all these verbal butt whoopings ya'll are giving him