NRA needs to be labeled a terrorlst organization.

A place for intelligent and well-thought-out discussion involving politics and associated topics. No nonsense will be tolerated at all.
User avatar
R/T Hemi
Posts: 404
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:11 am
Car: 2010 Challenger R/T
2012 TSX
Location: Sandy Eggo.

Post

I used to get worked up at innocent people being slaughtered by jerkwads with guns. Columbine, Sandy Hook, Charleston church bible study, Fort Hood, Virginia Tech, Luby's Cafeteria, Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, Washington Navy Yard and probably more I can't recall. It's so common that the shock value is gone. America doesn't want to fix it, or accept that the system is broken. How many innocent people is that? I don't remember the totals.

Gotta protect that 2nd Amendment. Got to have my Acme 10,000 round magazine on my assault rifle because it's my Constitutional right to do so. One day it will be one of those NRA ***holes who has a family member slaughtered for attending school, or sitting in a bible study class, or eating at a cafe or possibly partying at a LGTB night club with their friends. One day the NRA ***hole will see that their precious guns have another side to them. One day it will cost one of those bastards someone they love. One day a gun owner might realize that just because he's sane and responsible, multitudes of gun owners enjoying the same rights aren't. But give me bigger guns capable of killing more people in less time. It's my right. Never mind it's also the right of the moron with a few wires loose in his head. Wonder when someone from their family will be in the news? Wonder how they will feel about their arsenal when it happens.

I know the vast majority of gun owners are responsible, mature adults. But it's time those adults became part of the solution and worked to find a middle ground where it's safe for a child to go to elementary school or a cafe for a meal. Where people can attend bible study, or party with friends without being shot. Screw the NRA.

Until then, it's just a matter of time until the next shooting. Or, following the NRA logic (as Trump, their endorsee says), it's the fault of Obama for not chanting the magic words "Radical Islamic terrorlst" and making this all go away. How could Obama not have known that. Birds of a feather, NRA and Trump.


ArmedAviator
Posts: 526
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:28 pm
Car: 2012 Infiniti M37x
Location: SW Ohio

Post

At first you were amusing, but now you're really starting to piss me off.

Last I checked it wasn't called the "Bill of Needs."

People like you are why the NRA exists and has the funds to do the good that it does. People like you, who are not educated to the facts want things done based on emotions and no (or extremely weak) evidence to support your beliefs want us to change because you an feel good about something that actually makes things worse. We and the NRA must step in to prevent uneducated retards from trampling our rights. Not rights given by the State but rights guaranteed at birth. The 2nd Amendment is only an acknowledgement that these rights exist. That goes for all of the rights expressed in the Constitution I causing your right of free speech (as unfortunate as that is).

Do us all a favor and go take an evening swim at the Disney World beach. Remember to be sure that nobody with super scary, lead flinging, death machines are around first.

By the way, short of you actually removing yourself from the gene pool, you are free to leave this country to be free from the scary guns at your leisure.

My rights outweigh your opinions every time and I'd be willing to kill or die fighting to keep the same rights.

P.S. ammoseek.com has some good deals on bulk 5.56 and 9mm now. I just ordered 5,000 of the death pills for my fully automatic 30 caliber magazine clip and only had to give them my credit card number. Thanks NRA!!

And remember, have nice day.

User avatar
themadscientist
Posts: 26254
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:30 pm
Car: R32 GTR, DR30 RS Turbo, BRZ, Lunchbox, NSR50 Sportster 883 Iron
Location: Staring down at you with disdain from the spooky mountaintop castle.

Post

Hemi, people like you are the problem. You avoid the disease and focus on the symptoms. Americans are increasingly idiotic. Rather than address things like failing public education, poor civic pride and sense of responsibility, the breakdown of the family unit, exponentially increasing legal overprescription of mind-altering drugs on the one hand while criminalizing recreational use of other drugs that have shown themselves to be responsible for terrible things like increased fast food consumption and discussions of Bruce Li movies, the complete failure of elected officials to make political and economic decisions for the future and sustainability of our country nor of the electorate to hold them to account for the same which results in an unemployed and poverty-stricken populace with no outlook for the future, you blame a gun. Dumbass.

I did an experiment once. I pulled one of my evil bloodthirsty Satan-spawn demon guns out of the safe. This one.

Image

That's a 12 gauge shotgun with a 20 round drum magazine. That's pretty scary, ain't it? I mean look at that evilness!

Image

I had to say the magic words. It is evil after all and only the power of my ancient gun control spell could keep it from wiping out humanity.

Image

I loaded it and set it on the dining room table and watched from a safe distance.

Image

I was sure it would attack me. It never happened. I then realized it was because it's an inanimate object that can't do anything without human intervention. Now, if there was some jackass with no respect for humanity in the room I would be in danger. perhaps HE'S the problem?

At any rate, F you. You don't like it here with our rights and all, GTFO. Go to Australia. I hear their taking rights. Let me help you.

https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Citi/pat ... -residence

User avatar
R/T Hemi
Posts: 404
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:11 am
Car: 2010 Challenger R/T
2012 TSX
Location: Sandy Eggo.

Post

TMS.

Think about this. This is a really big world. Really big world. One country in this really big world does something that the rest of the world shakes their head at and wonders how f'ing insane can a first world country be? It's not a symptom of anything, People are here. Many people are defective. Many People own guns. Logic then, allows that many defective people will own guns. Now, it's obvious there are two ways to eliminate the problem. 1. Eliminate people, (that'll get the defective ones too) or 2. Eliminate guns. But wait, bleeding heart liberals will scream at option #1, and Gun Totin' Republicans will scream at #2. Perhaps there's something in the middle? The NRA refuses to think that maybe the fix is removing part of the problem? Not the guns of those responsible enough to realize guns have become a problem. Not guns from those who understand what trigger locks and locking gun cabinets are for. But who needs an assault rifle with a large capacity magazine? Ah, a soldier defending his country probably.

Look at this chit...
A Tennessee state lawmaker is defending his plans Friday to give away firearms closely following the terror attack in Orlando, arguing that "a crazed Muslim terrorlst" shouldn't "change the plans or activities that we have as Americans.
How effing retarded is this Republican to give away 2 AR-15 rifles at this time? (somewhat redundant I agree, Tennessee, republican and retarded)


It really comes down to the NRA creed.
If we let them take ANY of our guns, we'll have nothing but our jacked-up Diesel crew cabs. If we let them take our jacked-up diesel crew cabs, we'll be left with our small penises and we're afraid to face that option alone.

Look at ArmedAviator. He's actually bragging that he found someone dumb enough to accepted his credit card? They'll learn. But in the mean time, he'll have 5000 reasons to avoid thinking how tough life as an under-endowed, bullet-collecting NRA member longing to reclaim his repossessed Duramax.

NRA, take a step to the left. The day is near when you and your money will fail against the will of the people. If you don't find a solution, we will. Won't be too many more massacres until we're past the tipping point.

User avatar
R/T Hemi
Posts: 404
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:11 am
Car: 2010 Challenger R/T
2012 TSX
Location: Sandy Eggo.

Post

Instead of pictures. I'll post one of my favorite NRA suggestions.

During a seminar on “home defense concepts” at the National Rifle Association’s annual meeting in Louisville, an instructor encouraged gun owners to store firearms in their children’s bedrooms.

Rob Pincus, who owns the popular firearm instruction company I.C.E. Training, paced across a conference room stage as he repeatedly warned against the threat of violent home invasions. After establishing that filling one’s home with weapons is the only solution, he then recommended that gun owners store firearms in their kids’ rooms for easy access.


I guess NRA membership and a room temperature IQ is the norm.

I really fear for a child with this idiot as a parent.

He doubles down with...
“So I’m going to say we have an obligation to try to prevent unauthorized access.” He added that hidden, instead of locked or secured, is a perfectly appropriate way to secure a gun.

Hide something from a child in their room? Mind boggling stupidity from an NRA spoksman.

User avatar
telcoman
Posts: 5762
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:30 am
Car: Tesla 2022 Model Y, 2016 Q70 Bye 2012 G37S 6 MT w Nav 94444 mi bye 2006 Infiniti G35 Sedan 6 MT @171796 mi.
Location: Central NJ

Post

R/T Hemi wrote:I used to get worked up at innocent people being slaughtered by jerkwads with guns. Columbine, Sandy Hook, Charleston church bible study, Fort Hood, Virginia Tech, Luby's Cafeteria, Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, Washington Navy Yard and probably more I can't recall. It's so common that the shock value is gone. America doesn't want to fix it, or accept that the system is broken. How many innocent people is that? I don't remember the totals.

Gotta protect that 2nd Amendment. Got to have my Acme 10,000 round magazine on my assault rifle because it's my Constitutional right to do so. One day it will be one of those NRA ***holes who has a family member slaughtered for attending school, or sitting in a bible study class, or eating at a cafe or possibly partying at a LGTB night club with their friends. One day the NRA ***hole will see that their precious guns have another side to them. One day it will cost one of those bastards someone they love. One day a gun owner might realize that just because he's sane and responsible, multitudes of gun owners enjoying the same rights aren't. But give me bigger guns capable of killing more people in less time. It's my right. Never mind it's also the right of the moron with a few wires loose in his head. Wonder when someone from their family will be in the news? Wonder how they will feel about their arsenal when it happens.

I know the vast majority of gun owners are responsible, mature adults. But it's time those adults became part of the solution and worked to find a middle ground where it's safe for a child to go to elementary school or a cafe for a meal. Where people can attend bible study, or party with friends without being shot. Screw the NRA.

Until then, it's just a matter of time until the next shooting. Or, following the NRA logic (as Trump, their endorsee says), it's the fault of Obama for not chanting the magic words "Radical Islamic terrorlst" and making this all go away. How could Obama not have known that. Birds of a feather, NRA and Trump.
Ultimately the NRA will be destroyed

When I was in basic training I received instruction on the use of a M16
Why are these weapons of war being sold with no training, mental,no fly lists, and complete background checks?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/comedy/s ... vp-AAhgOLl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Am ... nstitution

"2. Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller's holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those "in common use at the time" finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp. 54–56.[189][190]"

Telcoman



Telcoman

ArmedAviator
Posts: 526
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:28 pm
Car: 2012 Infiniti M37x
Location: SW Ohio

Post

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

You're all talk anyway. What're you gonna do? Take my guns with your cold dead hands?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)

ArmedAviator
Posts: 526
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:28 pm
Car: 2012 Infiniti M37x
Location: SW Ohio

Post

And with that, I am not going to return to this topic, or really any topic started by either R/T Hemi or telcoman. It is a waste of my time trying to argue with closed minded idiots. I made the points I'd like to make for any future, reasonable persons to interpret as they'd like and make their own decision as to which side of the muzzle they'd like to be on.

Good luck in your endeavors on this tiny rock floating through space, gentlemen.

User avatar
themadscientist
Posts: 26254
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:30 pm
Car: R32 GTR, DR30 RS Turbo, BRZ, Lunchbox, NSR50 Sportster 883 Iron
Location: Staring down at you with disdain from the spooky mountaintop castle.

Post

First, I don't give a f*** what other countries think about our internal use of our freedoms. Hell, I don't even care what you, another American, thinks. Irrelevant, moving on.

Secondly, as always with people like you, argument to definition escapes you, it's not an assault rifle. These are not select fire weapons. By definition an assault rifle has select fire ie. fully automatic fire.

Next. Option one. I guess you didn't read my post. I am 100% behind option 1. Here I am trying to help that along.
You don't like it here with our rights and all, GTFO. Go to Australia. I hear their taking rights. Let me help you.

https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Citi/pat ... -residence
Let me help again. I've afforded you a week to pack your s*** and if you don't have the 6 bills I would normally suggest you ask the government to pay for it. Realizing how that actually works I figured I'd just cut out the middle man and pay for it myself. :facepalm:

https://www.expedia.com/Flight-SearchRe ... a7dNRSkuTh

Take your vice president with you, too. His weapons handling is very unsafe and completely illegal. :eek:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... -the-door/
“just fire the shotgun through the door”
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/201 ... en-in-jail
"I said, 'Jill, if there's ever a problem, just walk out on the balcony here, walk out and put that double-barrel shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house,'"

User avatar
AZhitman
Administrator
Posts: 54545
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:04 am
Car: 58 L210, 63 Bluebird RHD, 64 NL320, 65 SPL310, 66 411 RHD, 67 WRL411, 68 510 SR20, 75 280Z RB25, 77 620 SR20, 79 B310, 90 Z32, 91 GTi-R, 92 Silvia Qs, 98 S14, 23 Z.
Location: Surprise, Arizona
Contact:

Post

Good Lord. Who ties your shoes for you, R/T?

I'll bet you're afraid of the Boy Scouts, too. God forbid you should lay the blame where it belongs - on the radicalized goatf***ers who actually commit these offenses. Do you wet yourself every time a car backfires? It must suck to be so terrified of an organization that you know nothing about.

Ooga booga. Go hide under the bed - you're certifiable.

I'm beginning to think R/T is actually Michael Moore posting incognito and telcoman is his gay lover.

User avatar
themadscientist
Posts: 26254
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:30 pm
Car: R32 GTR, DR30 RS Turbo, BRZ, Lunchbox, NSR50 Sportster 883 Iron
Location: Staring down at you with disdain from the spooky mountaintop castle.

Post

Meanwhile, in Japan, where there are like, 8 guns, a whack job goes on a stabbing spree.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/0 ... ping-mall/
SAPPORO – A knife-wielding man went on a stabbing spree in a shopping mall Tuesday in Kushiro, Hokkaido, that left one woman dead and three others injured, police said.
There are a couple of takeaways from this.

Of course, the gun-blaming left will say "see how few people were killed." That's true, only one dead. He must not have had an "assault" knife, but that ignores the real problem; crazy mother%$#@ers. i understand, actually trying to fix problems is hard. It's much easier to pretend to be doing something with reactionary BS. Alright, then, WE NEED TO CONTROL THESE DEADLY KNIVES! :rolleyes:

I see a crazy person who wants to hurt people and will do whatever he can do. That is the common denominator in all these kinds of things. If anything, we need crazy people control. My reactionary friends, however, would rather blame inanimate objects for the the actions of their wielders. Fine. It's not Howie's fault for the dumb things he writes, it's his computer. Lets start rounding those laptops up before more people get slightly offended. :dblthumb:

User avatar
AZhitman
Administrator
Posts: 54545
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:04 am
Car: 58 L210, 63 Bluebird RHD, 64 NL320, 65 SPL310, 66 411 RHD, 67 WRL411, 68 510 SR20, 75 280Z RB25, 77 620 SR20, 79 B310, 90 Z32, 91 GTi-R, 92 Silvia Qs, 98 S14, 23 Z.
Location: Surprise, Arizona
Contact:

Post

By the way, R/T, while you were busy beating off to pictures of Elizabeth Warren, your beloved lefties voted down common sense gun control.

You and Hooo-wieeee might need to have words with your elected political heroes. How you gonna blame this one on the NRA? I'll wait... :)

User avatar
biggie
Moderator
Posts: 8302
Joined: Wed Jul 24, 2002 2:31 am
Car: '16 Q70L/'14 Q60S Vert/'19 Armada/'09 FX35
Location: Clemmons, NC

Post

Thanks for the laugh on this one.

User avatar
Rogue One
Administrator
Posts: 7951
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:15 pm
Car: 2011 Nissan Rogue SL
2012 Nissan Rogue SL
2022 Honda Pilot SE
2025 Honda CR-V Sport L
Location: Florida, USA

Post

Image

User avatar
Bubba1
Moderator
Posts: 16083
Joined: Wed Oct 30, 2002 1:42 pm
Car: 2003 Nissan 350z
2024 Honda HR-V
2008 Toyota Corolla S
2001 Toyota Avalon XLS

Post

John Oliver had an interesting perspective on the NRA on his show

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtTHzegMWA0[/youtube]

User avatar
biggie
Moderator
Posts: 8302
Joined: Wed Jul 24, 2002 2:31 am
Car: '16 Q70L/'14 Q60S Vert/'19 Armada/'09 FX35
Location: Clemmons, NC

Post

Bubba1 wrote:John Oliver had an interesting perspective on the NRA on his show

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtTHzegMWA0[/youtube]
It has been proved, gun control has done nothing to stop violence. The 'assault weapons' ban did nothing.

And yes no good gun owner wants a gun registration, registration leads to confiscation. We will see that soon in HI.

And true that NRA is out spent by a lot of lobby groups.

Another Brit that thinks they know this country... it is a large cultural difference in how you grow up. Same can be said for a lot of people wanting gun control.

User avatar
AZhitman
Administrator
Posts: 54545
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:04 am
Car: 58 L210, 63 Bluebird RHD, 64 NL320, 65 SPL310, 66 411 RHD, 67 WRL411, 68 510 SR20, 75 280Z RB25, 77 620 SR20, 79 B310, 90 Z32, 91 GTi-R, 92 Silvia Qs, 98 S14, 23 Z.
Location: Surprise, Arizona
Contact:

Post

R/T Hemi wrote:One day it will be one of those NRA ***holes who has a family member slaughtered for attending school
Y'know what, jackwad? It already has happened. Countless times. HOw can you even think that it hasn't? How did you make it through school without taking a Statistics class.

BTW, I'm one of those ***holes - Last I checked, I hadn't shot anyone, helped anyone shoot anyone, or made excuses for religious loons.

I thought you liberal twats tried not to judge people based on their color, religion, or affiliation. Hypocrite.

User avatar
telcoman
Posts: 5762
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:30 am
Car: Tesla 2022 Model Y, 2016 Q70 Bye 2012 G37S 6 MT w Nav 94444 mi bye 2006 Infiniti G35 Sedan 6 MT @171796 mi.
Location: Central NJ

Post

AZhitman wrote:
R/T Hemi wrote:One day it will be one of those NRA ***holes who has a family member slaughtered for attending school
Y'know what, jackwad? It already has happened. Countless times. HOw can you even think that it hasn't? How did you make it through school without taking a Statistics class.

BTW, I'm one of those ***holes - Last I checked, I hadn't shot anyone, helped anyone shoot anyone, or made excuses for religious loons.

I thought you liberal twats tried not to judge people based on their color, religion, or affiliation. Hypocrite.
Yes RT one day Gregg may end up with a changed mind.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/26/opini ... inion&_r=0

"According to reporting by Mother Jones, since 9/11, there have been 49 mass shootings in this country, and more than half of those were perpetrated by white males. I doubt we’ll hear Mr. Trump make a speech asking his fellow white males to tell authorities “who the bad ones are,” or call for restricting white males’ freedoms."

"One way to decrease the risk of terrorism is clear: Keep military-grade weaponry out of the hands of mentally unstable people, those with a history of violence, and those on F.B.I. watch lists. But, despite sit-ins and filibusters, our lawmakers are failing us on this front and choose instead to side with the National Rifle Association. Suspected terrorists can buy assault rifles, but we’re still carrying tiny bottles of shampoo to the airport. If we’re going to use the “they’ll just find another way” argument, let’s use that to let us keep our shoes on."

Telcoman

User avatar
Rogue One
Administrator
Posts: 7951
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:15 pm
Car: 2011 Nissan Rogue SL
2012 Nissan Rogue SL
2022 Honda Pilot SE
2025 Honda CR-V Sport L
Location: Florida, USA

Post

There is no universally accepted definition of a mass shooting, and different organizations use different criteria. The number of ‘mass shootings’ in the U.S. depends on how you count

Image

Image

User avatar
telcoman
Posts: 5762
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:30 am
Car: Tesla 2022 Model Y, 2016 Q70 Bye 2012 G37S 6 MT w Nav 94444 mi bye 2006 Infiniti G35 Sedan 6 MT @171796 mi.
Location: Central NJ

Post

Guns R in the house.

Parents thought what possibly could go wrong.

http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2016/ ... s_say.html

Telcoman

User avatar
biggie
Moderator
Posts: 8302
Joined: Wed Jul 24, 2002 2:31 am
Car: '16 Q70L/'14 Q60S Vert/'19 Armada/'09 FX35
Location: Clemmons, NC

Post

Don't go looking into most of those white male mass shooters, you'll find like most of the mass shooters, they are liberal. Don't think Trump can ban them from the country, maybe he could just ban liberals from getting a gun?

User avatar
telcoman
Posts: 5762
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:30 am
Car: Tesla 2022 Model Y, 2016 Q70 Bye 2012 G37S 6 MT w Nav 94444 mi bye 2006 Infiniti G35 Sedan 6 MT @171796 mi.
Location: Central NJ

Post

R/T Hemi wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:41 pm
I used to get worked up at innocent people being slaughtered by jerkwads with guns. Columbine, Sandy Hook, Charleston church bible study, Fort Hood, Virginia Tech, Luby's Cafeteria, Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, Washington Navy Yard and probably more I can't recall. It's so common that the shock value is gone. America doesn't want to fix it, or accept that the system is broken. How many innocent people is that? I don't remember the totals.

Gotta protect that 2nd Amendment. Got to have my Acme 10,000 round magazine on my assault rifle because it's my Constitutional right to do so. One day it will be one of those NRA ***holes who has a family member slaughtered for attending school, or sitting in a bible study class, or eating at a cafe or possibly partying at a LGTB night club with their friends. One day the NRA ***hole will see that their precious guns have another side to them. One day it will cost one of those bastards someone they love. One day a gun owner might realize that just because he's sane and responsible, multitudes of gun owners enjoying the same rights aren't. But give me bigger guns capable of killing more people in less time. It's my right. Never mind it's also the right of the moron with a few wires loose in his head. Wonder when someone from their family will be in the news? Wonder how they will feel about their arsenal when it happens.

I know the vast majority of gun owners are responsible, mature adults. But it's time those adults became part of the solution and worked to find a middle ground where it's safe for a child to go to elementary school or a cafe for a meal. Where people can attend bible study, or party with friends without being shot. Screw the NRA.

Until then, it's just a matter of time until the next shooting. Or, following the NRA logic (as Trump, their endorsee says), it's the fault of Obama for not chanting the magic words "Radical Islamic terrorlst" and making this all go away. How could Obama not have known that. Birds of a feather, NRA and Trump.
How many days until the next mass shooting?


18 school shootings in 45 days — Florida massacre is one of many tragedies in 2018

The attack on Florida's Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School is the 18th school shooting in the US within the first 45 days of 2018.
Several of the deadliest mass shootings in modern U.S. history have taken place in schools.


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/14/florida ... -2018.html

Image

Telcoman

User avatar
srellim234
Posts: 2710
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:12 am
Car: 2007 Nissan Versa SL hatch w/CVT
(sold 08/2011)
2008 Toyota Prius
(purchased 04/2016)
Location: Laughlin, NV

Post

You can slow them down with a program like they instituted in Australia but you will never stop them completely.

There have been 18 discharges of firearms on or into school grounds but not really 18 school shootings with intent to harm a lot of people. You're counting suicides in parking lots, an accidental discharge of a licensed law enforcement officer's gun, a bullet fired off campus that happened to strike a school building, etc. the same as a mass casualty incident. Put some perspective on it.

I agree something has to be done. As I said, gun laws similar to Australia's would help. People down there still have guns but "mass casualty incidents" and suicides have been greatly curtailed.

User avatar
biggie
Moderator
Posts: 8302
Joined: Wed Jul 24, 2002 2:31 am
Car: '16 Q70L/'14 Q60S Vert/'19 Armada/'09 FX35
Location: Clemmons, NC

Post

People in Australia don't really have guns. Shotguns mostly, stored in safes unloaded (believe ammo has to be separate).

You won't get Americans to turn in guns. Look at anywhere that has had a ban on items/guns or required registration. Hardly anyone complies.

Guns still aren't the problem, mental health and warning signs of these things happening and no one says anything are the main issue.

Break down of the "18 school shootings":
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/no ... 5a813c05bb

User avatar
telcoman
Posts: 5762
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:30 am
Car: Tesla 2022 Model Y, 2016 Q70 Bye 2012 G37S 6 MT w Nav 94444 mi bye 2006 Infiniti G35 Sedan 6 MT @171796 mi.
Location: Central NJ

Post

telcoman wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:40 am
How many days until the next mass shooting?


18 school shootings in 45 days — Florida massacre is one of many tragedies in 2018

The attack on Florida's Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School is the 18th school shooting in the US within the first 45 days of 2018.
Several of the deadliest mass shootings in modern U.S. history have taken place in schools.


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/14/florida ... -2018.html

Image



Only one day!

Mall manager fatally shot, 3 in custody: police

https://nypost.com/2018/02/15/mall-mana ... dy-police/

Telcoman
[/quote]

User avatar
srellim234
Posts: 2710
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:12 am
Car: 2007 Nissan Versa SL hatch w/CVT
(sold 08/2011)
2008 Toyota Prius
(purchased 04/2016)
Location: Laughlin, NV

Post

telco - 1. What the h*ll does that have to do with schools? 2. Since when is two rival factions opening fire on each other that kills one innocent person a "massacre?

biggie - You'd be surprised how many guns will actually be turned in with a buyback program like Australia instituted. Many people won't turn their guns in but many will. Then put restrictions on guns in public and gun purchases like they did. Also, shotguns, mostly? I was of the understanding that in the less populated areas ranchers were mostly armed with rifles for protecting their property and animals from predators. I was also under the impression that some hunting with rifles is allowed.

As for your claim that people don't comply "anywhere" that has stiff restrictions, try Japan. Yes, there are major cultural differences but it it will work with a few generations of pounding the message home.

As I said before something HAS to be done. Yes, mental health has to be addressed. So does the fact that we allow guns whose sole design purpose is to kill people to be purchased by the general public. An AR-15 is not a hunting gun. A 100 clip magazine is not a hunting or personal protection tool. Reasonable people will accept some reasonable restrictions without giving up their second amendment rights.

User avatar
telcoman
Posts: 5762
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:30 am
Car: Tesla 2022 Model Y, 2016 Q70 Bye 2012 G37S 6 MT w Nav 94444 mi bye 2006 Infiniti G35 Sedan 6 MT @171796 mi.
Location: Central NJ

Post

White House refuses to release photo of Trump signing bill to weaken gun law

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... li=BBnb7Kz

"A little over a month after his inauguration, on Feb. 28, 2017, President Trump signed HJ Resolution 40, a bill that made it easier for people with mental illness to obtain guns. CBS News then asked the White House to release the photograph of Mr. Trump signing the bill, making the request a total of 12 times.

White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders finally responded to repeated emails and phone calls with a one-line note on April 19, 2017, writing to CBS News, "We don't plan to release the picture at this time."

A White House photographer confirmed to CBS News that there are photos of the bill signing. Those photos won't be seen unless the Trump administration releases them, though, because the White House is not subject to the Freedom of Information Act. "

Telcoman

User avatar
telcoman
Posts: 5762
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:30 am
Car: Tesla 2022 Model Y, 2016 Q70 Bye 2012 G37S 6 MT w Nav 94444 mi bye 2006 Infiniti G35 Sedan 6 MT @171796 mi.
Location: Central NJ

Post

One year ago!

Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...m_npd_nn_fb_ma

" President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.

Had the rule fully taken effect, the Obama administration predicted it would have added about 75,000 names to that database.

President Barack Obama recommended the now-nullified regulation in a 2013 memo following the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, which left 20 first graders and six others dead. The measure sought to block some people with severe mental health problems from buying guns.

Related: Assault Weapons Not Protected by Second Amendment, Federal Appeals Court Rules

The original rule was hotly contested by gun rights advocates who said it infringed on Americans’ Second Amendment rights. Gun control advocates, however, praised the rule for curbing the availability of firearms to those who may not use them with the right intentions. "

Telcoman

User avatar
srellim234
Posts: 2710
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:12 am
Car: 2007 Nissan Versa SL hatch w/CVT
(sold 08/2011)
2008 Toyota Prius
(purchased 04/2016)
Location: Laughlin, NV

Post

telco - As usual you completely ignore direct questions when asked. How about answering them before you post your next bit of propaganda? You, sir, are incredibly rude, alienating and you influence no one in a positive manner with your behavior.

User avatar
telcoman
Posts: 5762
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:30 am
Car: Tesla 2022 Model Y, 2016 Q70 Bye 2012 G37S 6 MT w Nav 94444 mi bye 2006 Infiniti G35 Sedan 6 MT @171796 mi.
Location: Central NJ

Post

srellim234 wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:23 pm
telco - As usual you completely ignore direct questions when asked. How about answering them before you post your next bit of propaganda? You, sir, are incredibly rude, alienating and you influence no one in a positive manner with your behavior.
Propaganda is what is being peddled on Fox and Russian trolls and being accepted by some poorly educated Americans including our incompetent president that has no leadership skills.


The N.R.A. Can Be Beat

It’s time to vote the gun lobby out of office.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/opin ... editorials

"Hundreds have been killed in mass shootings at a high school in Littleton, Colo., a church in Charleston, S.C., an office party in San Bernardino, Calif., a nightclub in Orlando, Fla., and elsewhere in the past 20 years. After 20 first graders and a half-dozen adults were slaughtered in Newtown, Conn., in 2012, it seemed that a line would be drawn in the sand. Enough was enough, people said. But nothing was done. People have been injured or killed in eight school shootings in the first seven weeks of 2018 alone.

Though many Americans, and some elected officials, have taken a stand to stanch the epidemic of gun violence, the National Rifle Association and its congressional servants have been an unyielding obstacle to sensible reform.
Opinion By MATTEEN MOKALLA 2:23
A G.O.P. Guide to Mass Shootings
Video
A G.O.P. Guide to Mass Shootings

The simple plan for the N.R.A's servants to follow if they want to avoid doing anything about gun violence. By MATTEEN MOKALLA on Publish Date February 16, 2018. Photo by Evan Vucci/Associated Press. Watch in Times Video »

embed

ShareTweet

But the gun lobby’s stranglehold on our elected officials does not need to continue, if candidates stand up to the lobby and voters demand that they commit themselves to the sorts of changes that a vast majority of Americans want.

With midterm elections coming up this fall, America has a chance to get that message across. Candidates must realize that reducing gun violence is a winning and moral issue. Aggressive turnout by voters who believe this can defeat the N.R.A. at the polls. Until then, the bloodshed will continue.
Continue reading the main story
Related Coverage

Suspect Confessed to Police That He Began Shooting Students ‘in the Hallways’ FEB. 15, 2018
Opinion Opinion
A G.O.P. Guide to Mass Shootings FEB. 16, 2018
graphic
Opinion Editorial
What Congress Has Accomplished Since the Sandy Hook Massacre FEB. 15, 2018
Opinion Op-Ed Contributor
The Things We Know About School Shooters FEB. 15, 2018
Opinion Contributing Op-Ed Writer
The Bad Parent Caucus FEB. 15, 2018"

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... ators.html


"Most Americans support stronger gun laws — laws that would reduce deaths. But Republicans in Congress stand in the way. They fear alienating their primary voters and the National Rifle Association.

Below are the top 10 career recipients of N.R.A. funding – through donations or spending to benefit the candidate – among both current House and Senate members, along with their statements about the Las Vegas massacre. These representatives have a lot to say about it. All the while, they refuse to do anything to avoid the next massacre."


Our current High school students are going to solve the Gun problem since we have a man/child in the White House that has no leadership skills

Telcoman


Return to “Politics Etc.”