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I emailed and asked 300 Degrees these qusetions. (which was responded to quickly)

"I am inquiring about the nProbe.

Will this product run all Nissan tests?

I have a 1994 Q45a that has Active Suspension Package

In order to work on this system you need the Consult to perform certain test like:

Evacuating Hydraulic lines, Flushing Active system, Air bleeding, and many other Active Tests .

Have you checked if the nProbe will run these tests on a Q45a?"

The nest day Damon Serkland "President of 300 Degrees"emailed this back:

nProbe will do engine functions and airbag functions and I think auto climate control functions for you, it will not do the active suspension functions.

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GreenQ45a
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Is there any way to run these tests with a PC?I want a Q45 Consult Emulator with Active and HICAS tests.Does any one know of one or have any plans in the works?

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Welcome GreenQ45a! We all want the same thing. Thank you very much for sharing the feedback from 300degree...I have been considering getting one of those as well. This thread may be of interest to you if you haven't seen it already:http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....26291

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Even the Consult requires a separate data card [software] to test active.

What you really want is $500 worth of software that will emulate the $3,000 Consult plus $1,000 worth of cards.

Then people want it for free.

Based on the 14% actives [86% non actives] sold there might have been 8,600 actives sold considering wrecks and abuse and the dead ones and those sitting on used car lots awaiting a sucker.

The total universe might be 4,000 running in US today. Three quarters of those need recharging.

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Q45tech wrote:The total universe might be 4,000 running in US today. Three quarters of those need recharging.


So true...

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Q45tech wrote:Even the Consult requires a separate data card [software] to test active.
if someone had the data card that they could borrow and an active Q in the dallas area they should be able to add it to the nprobe pretty easily, but who's got the card?

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I understand people want to do there own work.I understand shops invest alot of money in equipment.

Because there are to many shops that have no clue when you ask them can you work on active Q45's they all say "Of course " assuming that all Nissans are created the same.When you ask them if they have a "Consult" they say there shop computers have Nissan Programs not haveing a clue. My local Infiniti dealer can never do any of the proper work on my car with out being told "Exactly" what to do.

I would love to take my car to T3 or somebody that has a clue however I live in New Mexico and find myself explaining the car and its systems to every shop I talk to.

none of the small pro shop know Infiniti they do Honda and Mits.the ones that know Nissan only know the 300ZX TT HICAS systems.

I was an Aerospace Propulsion tech (Jet Mech) in the AirForce and am now a computer tech\ system designer. so I fell I can handle the work on a Q and all of its most adv systems.I just need the tools to make sure the job gets done right.It's to easy to make mistakes and take shortcuts when working on somthing so adv.

I just don't trust work being done on if I have to to the tech whats going on. AND I hate fighting with the dealers.

I will be happy to do my part I will supply a full PC or 2 for R & D of this system.I'm not good @ Programming but I'm great @ custom Hardware configs and software\hardware Trouble shooting.

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Quote »My local Infiniti dealer can never do any of the proper work on my car with out being told "Exactly" what to do. [/quote]

Quote »I just don't trust work being done on if I have to to the tech whats going on. AND I hate fighting with the dealers.[/quote]

I feel your pain....I have the same problems here in Miami and I have 2 different dealers to choose from. My latest top ten comment that I received from a dealer tech which was last week is "I don't know why your rpms would drop by 250rpms and then start rising again under hard acceleration....maybe it is normal for these cars. You know I usually don't work on Q45's"

Seriously...this is exactly what he told me while we went on a drive around the block to show him what the car was doing after I just got done spending over $3,000 in parts and labor to have the car perfect doing a bunch of preventative maintenance and specifically telling this tech that I want everything checked over and the car running perfect...and the car had no problems like the rpms dropping before I took it in there. After arguing politely with the dealer...I told them that I would take the car back in Thursday...so this Thursday is round 2 with the dealer and the mechanic. I wish you best of luck on building your ECU reader.

BTW...If it is the knocksensors I am making the 800 mile drive to the one and only T3 to make sure everything is done right as I just had the sensors replaced 30K ago and I don't trust that the dealer installed them correctly or took care while doing it.

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Kind of unique in that T3 own's 4 Qs and 2 tech's fathers each have one plus mine and the few hundred regulars. Not a single day passes when there is not at least 2 [or 4] on the lifts.

Dealerships just don't see the old ones much, plus they get divided up amongst more techs, whereas at T3 anything unusual gets assigned to 1 tech at each shop location as the others tend to be Lexus specialists.

We are getting significant shifts towards Lexus as the old Q die and people trade.

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Q45tech wrote:and those sitting on used car lots awaiting a sucker.
LOL! Ain't that the truth!

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Q45tech wrote:Kind of unique in that T3 own's 4 Qs and 2 tech's fathers each have one plus mine and the few hundred regulars. Not a single day passes when there is not at least 2 [or 4] on the lifts.


That's why I'm willing to save up the money, take time off work and crash in a hotel to drive on down to T-3 to have the work done on my 92 Q45a that needs to be done. The work that I would have to do myself because the super high cost and not very honest about what they really know dealer is so far away.

I am seriously considering it. This is my only ride and it would make my life so much easier. But I'm not rich and I do love this car. I need the Chains and Guides looked at. The Active suspension actuators replaced(all four, which I would provide) and everything under the Plenum looked at and replaced if need be. O2, Knock scensors fuel injectors..Spark plugs... The whole nine yards...

You see all the work that this wireless telecom guy would need to do by myself. I'm not a mechanic, but always wind up doing it anyway. What kind of deal in terms of cash am I looking at if I were to do this all at once?

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maybe we could share a hotel room together as my car will be probably going up there soon as well for some major work. I find out on Thursday if it goes up there for major work (knock sensors).

I like to do a bunch of preventative maintenance and I have not touched my car in 18 months so I am getting whipped on repairs right now. Mostly just routine maintenane and a few other parts here and there that have gone to the $hitter. Yes...it will cost a pretty penny to do everything at once, but you should end up with a car that will be running smoothly and hopefully trouble free for several months to come. Also doing everything at once will save huge $$ in labor charges later such as with knocksensors...you can do so many other things while replacing these little sensors to help reduce future labor costs.

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Not many shops can discuss the: 802.11 protocol and EDGE plus ODFM and tree/free space attenuation by species.......or Current 1.9 Nextel data test in Raleigh Durham..........I spent 2 FULL years driving around NC.

My other life.

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Exactly and those who have the first gen cars would love to keep them running! It has that sexy no front grill look, which I love and it runs good now. Why not get this done and keep it rolling. To me it's worth keeping this car untill it's an antique.... I'll cash in some of my stocks to get stuff done so it keeps running.. Just need to know how much.

Maybe T-3 can run an out of town discount or something. If I am willing to drive across a few states and get major work done maybe others are too. Just a matter of when the money can be grubbed together. Might as well have a meet their as well... Maybe plan a T-3 week or something. ....... hmmm......

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Q45tech wrote:Not many shops can discuss the: 802.11 protocol and EDGE plus ODFM and tree/free space attenuation by species.......or Current 1.9 Nextel data test in Raleigh Durham..........I spent 2 FULL years driving around NC.


Does that mean the Raleigh dealer has an edge over others? That's my closest dealer and I actually lived there for 3 years. I heard stories and frankly don't trust them. If you can ease my mind I might reconsider and have them check my Q out.

This "other life" sounds like a familiar NC story....... Nuff said.

redmanfx92 Q45a


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