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gibbo80
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didnt motor trend hit 12.8 with the zo6. I thought that was a ls1. THey hit 12.9 with new cobra i am pretty sure so repo you might want to check stats agin. They hit 13.1 with the convert. svt and 13.0 with the stock c5 corvette. chevy has ford so far, and they are naturally aspirated. Give them a super charger and watch out


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The LS1 in the vette squeezes out a bit more HP than whats in the TAs and Camaros, the z06 squeezes out even more.

It might be faster still than the s/c stang on the 1/4 mile track, but if you really want to see the colours take both cars to a road course. Thats where the vette will clearly outshine ;)

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gibbo80 wrote:didnt motor trend hit 12.8 with the zo6. I thought that was a ls1. THey hit 12.9 with new cobra i am pretty sure so repo you might want to check stats agin. They hit 13.1 with the convert. svt and 13.0 with the stock c5 corvette. chevy has ford so far, and they are naturally aspirated. Give them a super charger and watch out


I didn't say no one hit a 12.9 with the Cobra, I said they have a hard time doing better than 13.0, which is true. Fords make no power without a blower.

The Z06 is an LS6, not an LS1.

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er sorry, LS6. I honestly knew that and will now smack my head off the desk :)

Its the same basic design as the LS1 from what i remember, much like the LT1 to the LT4.

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wahhh you people dont know what you talking about choosing a TA over a camaro... I'll get a IROC Camaro anyday over any other domestics..

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Your Trans Am kicks ***, looks very nice!! Trans Am or Camaro, Ill take both!!!

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I think my LS1 has plenty of power, low-end or otherwise.

Disparaging comments about my engine can be sent care of my tailights, don't mind that cloud of smoke.

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I'll have to agree with the guys, your T/A looks nice. and its nice to meet a T/A owner who isnt a total azzhole. all the guys i know who own F-Bodies at my school are jerk-offs. 1 POS white Formula, 1 POS, LOUD AS HELL T/A, and a couple of Camaros. the guy with the formula used to drive a Protege and claimed all domestics suck, now hes driving a Formula and claiming how much imports suck. and the T/A guy is just a c***munch, i really want to take him on a twisty road and see whos car survives. but anyway, back to the thread, again great looking T/A. the wheels look pretty good on it and i think ANY black car is just mean as hell looking.

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Im coming back in defense of the mustang here. Queamore those cars were STOCK let me repeat that Stock. No modifications except the cobra had springs and a tri-ax shifter but those wont help the time. The engines you were referring to dont exist so i dunno if your bull ****ting or you dont know crap. Ibrowne actually has a 348 but people refer to it as the 350. All those time were done by a professional driver / editor of 5.0 mustang and fast ford magazine. A normal person would most likely never hit those numbers all im sayingis they have the capability. If ford used a v8 with more displacement they could make just as much power as the ls1. The 5.4 litre in the cobra r made 385 but it was modded pretty nicely. All im saying is the cobra and the mach 1 are faster hands down the bullitt and 01 cobra are closer to the ls1 times but still slightly faster. But all engines come from the factory slightly different thats why some cars are faster than others. It also depends on how you break an engine in and the care of it. And then you compare the cobra to a vette. Those cars are in two different classes. The vette is a two seater sports car and the mustang is a pony car so naturally you would expect the mustang/camaro/ta to sacrifice handling and acceleration for a back seat and better all around comfort. Im done arguing and Ibrowne i know you werent flaming me its just the ignorant people in the world. The camaros are fast no doubt and id get one in a heart beat but i like the mustang more plain and simple.

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i like the hoods on the late ram air tas

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Not to flame, but show me times and records from any other source other than a Mustang magazine that states numberz lower in the 1/4 mile for the Bullit than an LS1.

Get the best times for both, because I know a Bullit Mustang will not hit 12s stock, whereas an LS1 has. I know definitely not every driver would be able to achieve this..but we'll put that aside. The times I've seen for the new s/c cobra stang are 12.9s

Yeah ford could have made just as much power if they had larger engines, but they never. Instead now they plunkked a supercharger on their v8 and now its plenty powerful.

Here is what i got for 2001 Mustang Bullit:

2001 Mustang Bullitt GT Engine : 4.6L v8 SOHC1/4 mile time : 14.1 seconds0-60 mph : 5.6 seconds

I found a few other pages that list high 13s for this car and I've read about them before so that 14.1 probably had a mediocre driver, so I would basically consider it a high 13 second 1/4 mile car. An LS1 would take that to lunch and back. Given equal good drivers. Mediocre times for an LS1 stock are 13.5 in the 1/4 mile.

Please give me sources other than a mustang magazine for the Bullit mustang. If you're going to quote times out of a Mustang magazine from a professional driver, you might as well quote the best times recorded for the LS1, which would be high 12s, with a professional driver of course, car in complete stock condition.

In fact a board I frequent quite often, theres a few fellas there who obtained 12.9s with a stock LS1, but most would be low to mid 13s.

I'm not flaming you. Just trying to look at the bigger picture. And yes a shifter could certainly help 1/4 mile times if it helps the driver engage gears a heck of a lot quicker, much like my shifter did for me in my TA. (man on the stock shifter did i ever hate the 2-3 shift!!! :angry7: )

You don't have to defend stangs to me, I like them, and the latest n greatest supercharged cobra stang has got it right on. I wasn't comparing a vette to a stang in in a serious comparison, people were talking about 1/4 mile times so I stated that the vette is a more thoroughbred sports car, and not a muscle car like the stang. It was all in good humor. I hope I never came across as ignorant because I like to keep up on the competition ;) Surprises are not always good surprises ;)

For those that took time to read all this jargon, awesome thanks! For the record I just beat a new Mach 1 stang the other day by a considerable margin, and yes he was racing. :)

Peace :)


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