NOS or Turbo?

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kris nissan for life
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hey guy i 'm 16 and got a 240 sx nicenicenice car will keep it for ever i have 500 to spend should i put a trubo or nos or somthink else ?

thanks kris
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kris nissan for life wrote:hey guy i 'm 16 and got a 240 sx nicenicenice car will keep it for ever i have 500 to spend should i put a trubo or nos or somthink else ? i can get like a nos kit for like 500 but trubo are like 2000 $ arent they ?

thanks kris

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use the big a$$ red SEACH button next time. and dont email me your saracastic remarks, put them here for all to enjoy.

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ok dude i'm 16 and worked 50 hours week this summer at auto body shop and made 2000$ car sosting me 1200 $ i have left over after i put new rods and sildders ok so i thout that you guy coude point me in the rgiht way save up for turbo or buy nos ok ?

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ok dude i'm 16 and worked 50 week this summer at auto body shop and made 2000$ car sosting me 1200 $ i have left over after i put new rods and sildders ok so i thout that you guy coude point me in the rgiht way save up for turbo or buy nos ok ?

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this is not your forum man............be careful what you say, if not people here will make you wish that i dint even post a thread on this forum! so be careful! and yeah ur question is a dumb *** one!!!

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turbo is better, but our of your budgeted $.

first I would reccomend getting used to drive your car before you "supe it up". although I'm sure you think you are a good drive, since you are 16 that is highly unlikely.

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word. fix all the broken stuff on your ride first. if you've got a '40, you've got alot of work ahead of you. I'd suggest bushings and brake work before getting in the sack with either turbo or nos.

Now folks, lets keep it cool, the guy's only got 3 posts total I mean come on. We were all noobs once.

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You need NOS. 1 of the big ones. No make it 2. and you need them by tonight.

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Go with NoS if you hate your motor and you are thinking about an SRswap.

If you only have $500; get a Filter Charger and some Wal-Mart hub caps, then with the rest you can take your woman out for a night on the town wooohooo


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Hey im 16! But I can acually talk, and i dont put NOS on cars!

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Hey man, I hate to be the person with bad news, but learn to REALLY drive well then do those kinds of modifications. In reality 240s in general have a few problems, basic things that you are going to want to fix. I have a friend (19yrs old) who bought his 240sx and did all this stuff to make it go faster and faster and blew his engine. Since he has a low paying job (like yourself) he couldnt afford to replace it and is now driving an old Mazda Protege... Its *** compared to what he had, and he had to part out his car and ended up selling off the shell for about $500

I always see all these young guys come out with their new cars with Nitrous or a turbo and never think about how the car drives and either get killed or have the car for about a year.

The guys who really have done a good job to their cars work on them for YEARS b4 they are worthwhile. I have been working on mine for about 2yrs now. This one guy at a show had his 94 240, bought it when it was NEW and is STILL working on it. And hes in tons of magazines and such.Another friend of mine turbo'd his car and took it out on the street then realized he hadnt done anything with the brakes and they failed on him pretty bad. He had to downshift like CRAZY then ended up in the middle of an intersection on a red light, got LUCKY, didnt get hit, but stopped in a ditch.... These are the kinds of things you are looking at if you go down this path.

Just dont be a total newb man and throw in mods just b/c youve seen it done. Get your ride to work right first, then do those things. Hell a stock KA will only hold about 250HP and will blow at about 300HP. More than a shot of Nitrous even will blow your rods through your engine block

Man, you dont want to be driving the '93 Protege...

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get the rsr bushings kit and cheap used suspension. you search hard enough you could find some cheap starter coilovers. well thats what I would do in your place. and thats only if the car runs perfectly and cleanly.

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hey guy i bot a 240 it sost meh 1000 dollrs i wunt noooooossss and go kwik.

LEARN TO DRIVE FIRST!!!!!!!

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I agree with most posts, start with suspension. It's after all the most important aspect of the car.

If you want to go KA-T expect to spend several thousand. Even for the most simple which would be a T25. KA's are good engines that hold good boost.

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kris nissan for life wrote:ok dude i'm 16 and worked 50 hours week this summer at auto body shop and made 2000$ car sosting me 1200 $ i have left over after i put new rods and sildders ok so i thout that you guy coude point me in the rgiht way save up for turbo or buy nos ok ?
You need to get a better job ... I sit at a desk and authorize credit cards and make $2,000 in about 1 1/2 months -- also goin to school too --

seems like someone in an autobody shop should be makin more than that considering cost of repairs, labor, paint, etc.

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yeah seriously do be careful because alot of people can be d!ck about stupid questions i have learned that when i had my 93 civic hb in the hondatech forums so ya watch out but id go with the turbo but thats just me

chris

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kris nissan for life wrote:hey guy i 'm 16 and got a 240 sx nicenicenice car will keep it for ever i have 500 to spend should i put a trubo or nos or somthink else ?

thanks kris
Kris, congrats on the car but really man please, please learn how to correctly type and punctuate your sentences. It makes it really hard to understand what you want and makes you look incompetent also. You're 16 so I'm sure you can speak and write pretty good english.

As for Nitrous Oxide or a Turbo I say go with the turbo but you aren't going to get a setup for $500. Spend the money replacing $hit that is broken and worn out... after all it is an 11 year old car. Then I would do the suspension and brakes before adding any serious HP modders.

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If you throw a turbo or a NOS system on a 240 with original internals the engine's gonna explode, and I hope I'm there to watch it. (Don't confuse original with stock, OEM is fine for low-boost as long as its in decent condition, which 10-15 year old parts probably wont be)

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give this poor kid a break

yo !!! stop watching fast and furious

be realistic


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NOS FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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first off..all you dumbass's that said the motor blows at 300hp are about the most stupid ****ers of all time...go to ka-t.org and go tell that to all those guys who are pushing over 300whp on their daily driver on stock internals...honestly i think nitrous is a great power adder when done correctly...do a compression and leakdown test on your motor and if everything is sound and within spec you could safely do a 50-75 shot and be just fine...yall are exactly the reason i rarely come to nico anymore because most of you dont know ****...ka-t.org FTW...

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It sounds to me like somebody needs some therapy. His car is a minimum of 12 years old I'm 100% sure that money could be better spent. ka-t.org is great and all, but its not nico. so far in my book Nico is the #1 nissan site.

hey Anand it kinda looks like your tire is about to fall off the rim in your sig.

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ka24detsx wrote:first off..all you dumbass's that said the motor blows at 300hp are about the most stupid ****ers of all time...go to ka-t.org and go tell that to all those guys who are pushing over 300whp on their daily driver on stock internals...honestly i think nitrous is a great power adder when done correctly...do a compression and leakdown test on your motor and if everything is sound and within spec you could safely do a 50-75 shot and be just fine...yall are exactly the reason i rarely come to nico anymore because most of you dont know ****...ka-t.org FTW...
Every shot of NOS, takes several hundred miles off of the life of the motor; period. I'm sure its possible to push any small displacement motor to the very edge of its limits but it wont last very long.

woohooo; and Ill bet you’ve seen a KA-T with 700rwhp on stock internals. The real story is, the motor blew after the second run. Or they tuned it for that much power, took it to the track, gassed it around the second turn and threw a rod.

ka-t.org = dyno queens

I would really like to be proven wrong on this, but 300+ Hp per Liter is only done by formula cars revving to 15k-rpm that have to be rebuilt after each race, or severely misguided people who don't realize what slamming a piston into a wall of 10x the pressure it was designed for, will do in a very short period of time.

Honestly, even if you could get gobs of power out of a ~2lt motor; why? Your TQ curve is going to look like an EKG spike. What practical purpose is that going to serve besides unfounded bragging rights?


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ka24detsx wrote:first off..all you dumbass's that said the motor blows at 300hp are about the most stupid ****ers of all time...go to ka-t.org and go tell that to all those guys who are pushing over 300whp on their daily driver on stock internals...honestly i think nitrous is a great power adder when done correctly...do a compression and leakdown test on your motor and if everything is sound and within spec you could safely do a 50-75 shot and be just fine...yall are exactly the reason i rarely come to nico anymore because most of you dont know ****...ka-t.org FTW...
well, wow... nice..

how many of those 300+hp KA-T's are still running on stock internals without blowing up???

how long have they been running???how many miles were on the stock motor before it was turbo'd?

lot of factors go into it... don't get me wrong... I know some people here that have daily driven KA-T's and they whoop me with my SR BUT, I have been going strong for almost 4 years with many many many many drift days under the belt and I drive mine every day like a bat out of hell..

but I don't care, I give credit where its due... whatever though.. if you decide to stay at kat.org or whatever, then so be it... good bye

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Well it looks like this thread's turning into another KA24(D)ET vs SR20DET thread. So get back on nos vs turbo otherwise it's gonna be lockdown city for this thread.

NOS on an engine in low amounts is ok. I don't really see a problem with it especially considering doing alterations from stock to gain power will ALWAYS decrease the life of any engine. So how valid a point is this? Next, time to be realistic on either option. You can turbo or jet any engine, either way you're risking blowing the whole thing apart when you put it on an old engine.

Plenty of fast cars out there, but they will all have a pretty rigorous maintainence routine otherwise they'll live a very short life. My own SR is a pretty good example, I've estimated I'd be lucky to get about 40k in terms of mileage before another major refreshing. Remember, the farther you deviate from stock, the less life your engine will have. The older it is, the less realistic a major upgrade in power will last in that engine. Bottom line.

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The 16yo who started this thread should do some research on what a nitrous system actually is; what a turbo actually is, what it does, and how it does it.The thing that I found is using a little nitro (like a 30 shot), works great in conjunction with turbo: nitrous is very cold, intercoolers are used to help turbo compress air, denser air + the nitrous reaching combustion after going through the intercooler = tons more power than just a turbo or just a nitrous system.

I could write up this big thing explaining all of it, but I doubt he would come back and have the attention span to read through it.


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