Non ricer body kits?

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chevelle100
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Hey, I'm looking at getting a 240sx for my first car, and I like the way they look but I think it would be cool to add a little to it, but every body kit I see just looks to street racerish. Are there any that look really clean or give it an exotic car look? Thanks.


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brash boy and jaquemond

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nope. silvia s13 aero conversion is the best youre going to get as far as looks.

and dont do budget bodywork, if you cant afford to get it mounted right and painted, then dont put it on please.

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You'll find the 240 community is pretty anti-body kit in general, except for the JDM crowd, lovin' the sylvia stuff. I personally like BomexS13's ride if you're looking at an s13 (pre-1995). I like the r33 stuff alot on the s14's. Not very exotic though. More of an understated type of look. I've got a Veilside front that is pretty ricey. I only like it from certain angles.

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Stick with OEM,JDM Body mods,Nissan has alot of cool looking body parts you can add,That look very clean.

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i reread your post and i feel like i have some more to offer to you:

good job on the not wanting to look ricey, except you forgot the one simple equation that we all live by, body kits = rice.

if you decide to put a body kit on your car now, you will end up regretting it bigtime down the road. every single ricer will want to race at lights, no matter how crappy their car is. it gets embarassing. the body parts that you will put time and money into getting fitted and painted will inevitably crack, warp, star, etc... because there arent body kits manufactured to standards as high as oem pieces. more than likely you will be treated as rice by everyone except the actual rice themselves, no matter how subtle you go. you will hate your body kit.

so you can save yourself some "go" money and skip that entirely. you can save up for parts to make your car faster, or you can save for a silvia conversion, probly the only worthwhile extensive body modification you can do to our cars.

if you DO decide to get a body kit, save yourold parts because you will end up wanting to put them back on when your tastes have matured.

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9240sx wrote:Stick with OEM,JDM Body mods,Nissan has alot of cool looking body parts you can add,That look very clean.
where can you find the body parts you speak of?

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Jspec.com,Ebay,Here in the classifileds.

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d!ck wrote:good job on the not wanting to look ricey, except you forgot the one simple equation that we all live by, body kits = rice.
i dont agree with that. if your body kit could impale somebody, then yes it is rice. but ive seen PLENTY of nice, clean kits that look like they belong on the car. not all body kits are ricey, it depends on which one you pick and what you do with it.

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obviously its a matter of opinion, but please show me one body kit that has quality construction and NO fitment issues, will stand the test of time and use like the oem parts will, and benefits function as well as form.

these would be my qaulifications for a non-rice bodykit, i.e. some really nice high-quality peices with ducting for brakes or improved cooling efficiency. stillen makes kits like this for the 350z that look pretty good.

aerodynamics is out of the question. show me where having a lip spoiler on a street-legal (not going to be going 120mph+ for long enough to do anything constructive) 240sx does something positive as far as downforce.

btw if youre looking for oem body upgrades try http://www.japanparts.com if you have the cash. they only carry stuff from high-end aftermarket distributors and the manufacturer's motorsport stuff.

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What is a silvia conversion? The jaquemond kits actually look pretty good.

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Also, before a body kit, I'm going to do an IAP kit and coilovers, and probably some interior stuff like racing seats. The body kit would probably be last.

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good job. do a search on a silvia, our generation is s13.

alternately, look around at the cars on this site. you should be able to find out pretty quickly what a silvia is.

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All right. I had just assumed the silvia was another name for the s13.

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d!ck wrote:i reread your post and i feel like i have some more to offer to you:

good job on the not wanting to look ricey, except you forgot the one simple equation that we all live by, body kits = rice.

if you decide to put a body kit on your car now, you will end up regretting it bigtime down the road. every single ricer will want to race at lights, no matter how crappy their car is. it gets embarassing. the body parts that you will put time and money into getting fitted and painted will inevitably crack, warp, star, etc... because there arent body kits manufactured to standards as high as oem pieces. more than likely you will be treated as rice by everyone except the actual rice themselves, no matter how subtle you go. you will hate your body kit.

so you can save yourself some "go" money and skip that entirely. you can save up for parts to make your car faster, or you can save for a silvia conversion, probly the only worthwhile extensive body modification you can do to our cars.

if you DO decide to get a body kit, save yourold parts because you will end up wanting to put them back on when your tastes have matured.
Speak for yourself when you bring up that one simple equation you live by.

I have had my kit on since last October, and it has been through hell. However, it has not cracked, warped, or anything you listed. Yes, ricers rev at me at stoplights but thats going to happen to matter what. Ricers rev at me when Im driving my grandma's Mercury Grand Marquis. For every one ricer that has revved at me, there have been two intelligent car guys who have complimented my car.

A rice body kit is one that like someone else said, can impale someone, or it just looks rediculous. You can't really list the specifications of a ricer body kit, it's all about the look of the car with it on.

A Silvia conversion is all fine and good, but then you have a Silvia with the USDM engine. That's kind of misleading if you ask me. If you're gonna do the front end conversion, go ahead and swap in an SR too. Thats kinda like sticking a VTEC badge on your 240sx...alright you have a VTEC badge - but why?

No matter how you are modding your car, it is not going to come out good if you don't spend money. If you are trying to throw a body kit on and have it over with be prepared to spend some cash because to pull it off nicely it will take quite a bit.

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just add a lip and drop it.it already looks good as the cars are. 240sxs look nice stock.

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Yeah, it's a good looking car. I don't want to drop it though because I'm going to rallycross it.

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[QUOTE=d!ck]obviously its a matter of opinion, but please show me one body kit that has quality construction and NO fitment issues, will stand the test of time and use like the oem parts will, and benefits function as well as form.

how about this one, boy you just got into this whole silvia thing and are already deciding what is rice and not.. there are many many many aerokits that have form and function and look good. not all kits are junk.

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I'm just getting into it but it doesnt take experience with a particular car to know what you think about the looks of cars. I just don't like cars that would make people think I go around street racing. Also, that kit you posted looks pretty nice. I'd like to get an old classic chevelle muscle car, but insurance would be through the roof.

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i was joking on the jaquemond kit, its totally gross crazy riceness. r33 bumpers are also hella rice. OEM JDM body parts are freaking lame and cost a million dollars and dont lower the car at all.

you want

vertexurasoriginvsgpsportsingswise sportsbnsportsworks9vanquishaero palace

etc etc.

fk or msports arent great, but they are better than r33 bumpers lol. they arent a bad design but the car has to be completely slammed to get the kit low, its just not a very low body kit. which can be good for some, but not for ol' chmercer.

**chmercer's rice dictionary**

note -the stuff in the parenthesis is the negatives.

hella sweet - stock body category

hella sweet - mild widebody category

reasonably sweet - full widebody category(sticker scheme is kindof spocom style, gay hoodpins)

average(nothing special, wheels, kit, blah blah. "clean". this is the type of car that most people with no style will sackride the hardest, "omg its so clean". its nice, but plain)

fairly ricey(body kit sucks, zenki turn signals are kindof jankey, crackerjack wheels)

bad decisions mobile(sil 80 completly blows in all situations, absolutley no way to make it look anywhere near as good as a decent 180/onevia. also 4 lug hanabis are a poor mans bandaid for not doing 5 lug. SEs on a s13 are cooler than ANY 4 lug wheel)

expensive total crap(anything with s15 face minus masa car is always total crap, s15 is the fastest way to **** up a car. side markers, moulded rear overfenders also didnt post the pics but it has a moulded fiberglass subwoofer/amp mess in the trunk, s15 steering wheel, crappy floor mats, and matching mild buckets with stock seatbelts and the rear seats still left in)

not factored into this list(stock car, who cares, woo hoo, its not *clean*, its STOCK. )

also there are the cars that are just cheap junker trash. some pep boys alloys, maybe a poorly installed body kit ex. sideskirts riveted to the body, most likley different colored panels, never has any action pics, either not lowered at all, or totally slammed on 15s with big profile m/s tires. engine mods ALWAYS include spark plug wires, interior - seatbelt pads, cf ebrake handle, etc. also anything with a sub box. subs = complete and total failure at all times, the only exception being if you are blasting drum and bass while drifting and you have neon ziptied to the sub box.

some of you may think this is a joke, but im 100% serious.

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Thanks. I actually kinda liked the jacquemond, gave it an exotic car look.

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chevelle100 wrote:Thanks. I actually kinda liked the jacquemond, gave it an exotic car look.
nope, it gives it the "i put 3000$ worth of fiberglass onto a 1500$ car without adding any functionality" look.

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chevelle100 wrote:Yeah, it's a good looking car. I don't want to drop it though because I'm going to rallycross it.
i dont know what RALLYCROSS means, but i suppose, basically like autocross, meaning.. you will be rallying in a 240sx.. um?anyone see a big flaw in this? whats the point of getting a body kit when you're going to rally cross (wtf is this? i assume its rallying)?get an undercar cover or something.....

and chmer, how is an s15 conversion ****? i wanted to do an s15 conversion on my hatch after the suspension and turbocharger.. why would you say such a cruel thing

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WOW! I didn't know the jacquemond kit cost so much. That's incredible. I actually liked the average car that was posted. Which kit was that? Rallycross is basically autocross on dirt, and I know it could do some damage to the car, but it's fairly car friendly, and like I said, a body kit would be the final thing.

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Because he's 100% RIGHT! I'm soooooooooooooo sick of this stupid s14.5 strawberry face crap. crap crap crap. It's even worse when homeboys throw them on their accords and integras to be jdm tizzyte . But he is sadly mistaken about the sil80 comment, espescially since it has not only asthetic but nostalgic value for what it was. Also the clean look is cool, don't hate.

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you guys are haters..the s13.5(?)s looks so good on the hatch.. like it was meant to be its nice! no matter what you say

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have you taken a look at the kouki 180sx style kits? I like those the best... different from the everyday 240sx face, but not too extravagant.

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Body Kit + dirt roads =stupid looking cracked body kit.

rally cross sounds awsome but no matter how "car friendly" it is its bound to be bumpy as well.Leave the body stock and focus on keeping the car up to the beating it will take. Spend wasted body kit money on beefy suspension links. I wanna rally cross I miss sliding cars in the dirt. I wonder if they have somethen like that around here.

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chevelle100 wrote:Hey, I'm looking at getting a 240sx for my first car, and I like the way they look but I think it would be cool to add a little to it, but every body kit I see just looks to street racerish. Are there any that look really clean or give it an exotic car look? Thanks.
Lucky for you, the 240sx is a sweet car without body kits. Think of it this way... you could go get a different (ugly) car and spend a grip of cash making it halfway decent to look at OR you could get a nice looking car and spend a grip of cash making it perform better.

Riceness aside, here's the formula I go by:Bodykit = Wasted Time + Wasted Money

Build your car to MOVE like you want it to. Bodykits are great on parked cars.

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masticatingcow wrote: Bodykits are great on parked cars.
nah, they suck on thoes.



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