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http://news.yahoo.com/s/politi...25445

Quick recap - Pelosi's approval AND trust numbers tank - her response: "I don't care."

While it's one thing for people to no like someone in office, but shouldn't it affect an incumbant in some manner? I mean, these are the people you should be representing, no?


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About time the public is seeing her incompetence.

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marlin29311 wrote:While it's one thing for people to no like someone in office, but shouldn't it affect an incumbant in some manner? I mean, these are the people you should be representing, no?
Cmon, that was a rhetorical question right? I hope her constituents remember her nonchalance and give her a pink slip.

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themadscientist wrote:Cmon, that was a rhetorical question right? I hope her constituents remember her nonchalance and give her a pink slip.
San Francisco? I seriously doubt it!

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She's a clown, and an embarassment to women in elected positions everywhere.

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AZhitman wrote:She's a clown, and an embarassment to women in elected positions everywhere.
Why only those in elected positions? Why limit yourself so?

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I don't know. I know that Jesda really likes strong powerful intelligent woman so Pelosi is probably still on the top of his "need to shoot my load in their eye" list.

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IMHO, Pelosi fails Jesda's intelligence requirement ...

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If I had to look at her, I'd shoot MYSELF in the eye.

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In this case "I don't care" is the appropriate answer for her. Once you've amassed your power and intimidated your opposition, what you have to worry about is reelection within your district. What others think about her is irrelevant to her reelection.

Once a district has an elected official that rises to such a position of power, do you honestly think they would throw her out in favor of someone else who won't have nearly the clout?

Everybody talks about "throwing the bums out," but what they are really encouraging is for everyone else to throw their bums out. Once an elected official has amassed the money and power, their constituency is not going to give it up.

Power doesn't just corrupt the politicians. It corrupts their constituencies, too.

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AZhitman wrote:If I had to look at her, I'd shoot MYSELF in the eye.
Hey, but who hasn't done that before? Right?Anybody?

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srellim234 wrote:In this case "I don't care" is the appropriate answer for her. Once you've amassed your power and intimidated your opposition, what you have to worry about is reelection within your district. What others think about her is irrelevant to her reelection.

Once a district has an elected official that rises to such a position of power, do you honestly think they would throw her out in favor of someone else who won't have nearly the clout?

Everybody talks about "throwing the bums out," but what they are really encouraging is for everyone else to throw their bums out. Once an elected official has amassed the money and power, their constituency is not going to give it up.

Power doesn't just corrupt the politicians. It corrupts their constituencies, too.
what a great post. honestly.

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Thank you.

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Once again, Steve drills it home.

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I agree with everything you said except for this part:
srellim234 wrote:What others think about her is irrelevant to her reelection.
Do you think that if she is a toolbag to everyone but her own district they will still love her? It seems to me like many would realize that she's being a toolbag and not want her representing them - I mean I wouldn't want the neighborhood bully representing me because it would make the neighborhood look down on me.

Just a thought.

Other than that it was a great post.

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She's amassed the power and the money. As long as she keeps winning in her district and pulls off providing enough pork to fellow congressmen to maintain her Speakers position it doesn't matter.

An example would be the Senate vote that just occurred on the F-22. The military was publicly against the funding, the POTUS didn't want it, national public sentiment was against it, yet 40 senators voted in favor of it because the possibility of maintaining jobs in their home states related to it was more important to their reelections than anything else. To those 40 people, common sense, the good of the country, the military's wants and needs, national political opinion, etc. made absolutely no difference. Reelection within their states and amassing $$$ from lobbyists did.

Nationally hated toolbag or not, as long as Pelosi is Speaker they are not going to vote her out.

I realize that the F-22 funding didn't pass in it's entirety and was a Senate vote but it's still an example of how various districts (or states) see things differentlly.

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dusred wrote:Do you think that if she is a toolbag to everyone but her own district they will still love her? It seems to me like many would realize that she's being a toolbag and not want her representing them - I mean I wouldn't want the neighborhood bully representing me because it would make the neighborhood look down on me.
Unfortunately, you are underestimating the irrationality of San Franciscans. Or overestimating their rationality. Whichever phrase makes it clearer as to what I am trying to say.

They would continue to vote her in, regardless of how silly she has been in office.

Power has gone to Pelosi's head and she thinks she can direct the country and the President in whatever direction she personally believes is best.

Almost as bad as Barney Frank thinking he knows economics and finance well enough to be able to make change from a dollar on a fifty cent purchase.

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szhosain wrote:
Almost as bad as Barney Frank thinking he knows economics and finance well enough to be able to make change from a dollar on a fifty cent purchase.

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You phrased that incorrectly.

Barney Frank thinks he knows economics and finance well enough to be able to make change from fifty cents on a dollar purchase!

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srellim234 wrote:You phrased that incorrectly.

Barney Frank thinks he knows economics and finance well enough to be able to make change from fifty cents on a dollar purchase!


You are right ... I stand corrected!


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bobotech wrote:I don't know. I know that Jesda really likes strong powerful intelligent woman so Pelosi is probably still on the top of his "need to shoot my load in their eye" list.
terrorlst!

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But probably true


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themadscientist wrote:
Hey, but who hasn't done that before? Right?Anybody?

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I'm surprised this thread wasn't near the top today given the recent news on Pelosi today.

The wicked witch from the west said today that people who protest big government and its spending are un-American. Given, some of the people who protest are ill informed, but so is all of Congress, especially her. Just a taste of their own medicine in hot, steamy, smelly, bad breath from their constituents.

She did cut the jets the Dems are ordering from 8 to 4 ($550 million to $220 million). Didn't she and Congress shame corporate America for corporate jets? I was pretty sure she/they/we did and then she goes and does this, especially given that situation and the economic times?



At least the Senate said they would not vote that through by any means.

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Well, after 9/11 there was a similar "un-American" slant against those against us going after countries which harbor terrorists. So in a way, this could be "tit for tat".


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This is just more proof that the Audit the Fed bill is gaining ground and big government is scared.

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Nancy Pelosi wrote:people who protest big government and its spending are un-American.
Yeah, Jefferson and some of those other Founding Fathers of ours were pretty damned un-patriotic, eh Nance?
Thomas Jefferson wrote:When all government, domestic and foreign, in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another, and will become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we separated.
Congress needs to push through some funding some this woman can buy a damned clue.

Nance, dear...wipe the scary off your face and read this.



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