no crank no start, gas leak, cas, battery, video inside

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entrapm3nt
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Ok so this is my project car. I just bought it recently for 900 bucks. When i bought it, it would crank but not start. Now its just clicking. Im thinking about just dishing out cash at the dealership to fix it. Any idea how much that would cost? All my mechanics dont want to touch it. I know a decent amount about these cars but no tools or much experience working on them.
Anyways here is my video. Please read description. Thanks for all your help guys. And sorry my voice is deep. Turn the sound up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yUMh_yT ... e=youtu.be

After this video i went outside and it seems to be another spot leaking under the car i saw the drip a few times. near the rear passenger side tire. i smell under the car in this spot smells like gas. As for the engine bay gas leak. its been dripping every 3 seconds for about 30 mins now :frown:


BlackWidowZ
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For 900 bucks dude just sell the car and buy another one. Its going to cost more than that to fix it at the stealer ship. I Cant see where its leaking from. I asked in the in the thread if the car was getting spark, and someone else there said how for you to check that. does it get spark or no? as far as the leaks are concerned were you sure that you don't have a broken fuel line? You also may have flooded your engine trying to star it with out 1st diagnosing if the car was getting spark or not. You should really get some tools if this is your project car. just saying.

Really I have no idea how much it would cost to fix it, but probably for more than you bought the car.

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um dude..... you are running your car when there is a known fuel leak?????????? :wtf2: dripping from some where? first dont start the car again until you find the broken gas line or fuel line clamp that is leaking . second i dont know what else to tell you until you start reading this forum religiously . so youve got multily gas leaks? , it shouldnt be that hard to find out where its coming from just by smell and looking.

tools are always a good investment. buy the best you can the first time.

maybe just let the car sit, read, learn about this car so can make an informed choice of what you should do.

GL my friend unfortunatly youve got a lot a lot to learn.\


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Have you at least checked this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGZjNv-zqSQ

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entrapm3nt
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Trimble Epic wrote:Have you at least checked this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGZjNv-zqSQ
Yes i have before and tightend them
Rager wrote:um dude..... you are running your car when there is a known fuel leak?????????? :wtf2: dripping from some where? first dont start the car again until you find the broken gas line or fuel line clamp that is leaking . second i dont know what else to tell you until you start reading this forum religiously . so youve got multily gas leaks? , it shouldnt be that hard to find out where its coming from just by smell and looking.

tools are always a good investment. buy the best you can the first time.

maybe just let the car sit, read, learn about this car so can make an informed choice of what you should do.

GL my friend unfortunatly youve got a lot a lot to learn./


rager
Pretty harsh. I asumed if its not cranking it wouldnt spark anyways. Im guessing its gotta be a fuel line and injector. I just wanted other peoples opinion. Like i said before i tightend the clamps on the fuel hoses. But its clearly dripping from under the manifold on the top left side near the battery. Just need to decide if im gonna do it myself or not.
BlackWidowZ wrote:For 900 bucks dude just sell the car and buy another one. Its going to cost more than that to fix it at the stealer ship. I Cant see where its leaking from. I asked in the in the thread if the car was getting spark, and someone else there said how for you to check that. does it get spark or no? as far as the leaks are concerned were you sure that you don't have a broken fuel line? You also may have flooded your engine trying to star it with out 1st diagnosing if the car was getting spark or not. You should really get some tools if this is your project car. just saying.

Really I have no idea how much it would cost to fix it, but probably for more than you bought the car.
900 to fix it is really not that much. Just wondering an estimate. Money is not really an issue but if its gonna be cheaper to get a swap obv i will. I need to do a compression test but was wanting to get it running at least. I have not checked spark yet because of the fuel leak.

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sry if this sounds cynical, but we told you could check if it was getting spark without it cranking. plus your talking about swaping the motor now. No it costs like 8-10 grand to swap to TT and thats with you doing all the wrenching. were all trying to help you you really need to check some basic things with this motor, like its getting spark, figure out where its leaking gas and correct the ecu code. Fix the starter. This car has a lot more wrong with it than a gas leak. Swaping a motor is going to be 100 times harder than fixing the car as it sits now. So I sugest to you if you are really serious about swaping you take the time and learn how to fix and diagnose now. Practice on what you got and fix it. Cuz this is really small compared to a motor swap. Now that your telling me your going to swap it and money is no issue I think you should cut your losses and just go buy a TT it will be cheaper and better condition and you wont have to worry about fixing something when it goes wrong.

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BlackWidowZ wrote:sry if this sounds cynical, but we told you could check if it was getting spark without it cranking. plus your talking about swaping the motor now. No it costs like 8-10 grand to swap to TT and thats with you doing all the wrenching. were all trying to help you you really need to check some basic things with this motor, like its getting spark, figure out where its leaking gas and correct the ecu code. Fix the starter. This car has a lot more wrong with it than a gas leak. Swaping a motor is going to be 100 times harder than fixing the car as it sits now. So I sugest to you if you are really serious about swaping you take the time and learn how to fix and diagnose now. Practice on what you got and fix it. Cuz this is really small compared to a motor swap. Now that your telling me your going to swap it and money is no issue I think you should cut your losses and just go buy a TT it will be cheaper and better condition and you wont have to worry about fixing something when it goes wrong.
I never said TT swap i got it quoted at 4200 swapped with labor here in my local town at NSP. Im sure a N/A would be even cheaper. I have like 5k to spend on it but no reason to waste money. Im gonna fix the fuel leak before even checking for spark. Then ill do a compression test and see if its worth it.

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Might as well compression test it first to see if it's even worth fixing the fuel leak.

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I agree with the above poster u won't get accurate readings though. It costs way more than 4500 to swap to TT properly. I think this isn't really a project car for you its someone eases project car.

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BlackWidowZ wrote:I agree with the above poster u won't get accurate readings though. It costs way more than 4500 to swap to TT properly. I think this isn't really a project car for you its someone eases project car.
it was lady drivin :confused:

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Doesn't matter. What that means is you bought it AS a project. Does it run? No. Hence, project.

Get a leakdown tester. You need to see if this thing is even worth putting money into. If you have a damaged valve or head, or blown piston rings, you might as well do the swap, since this engine is toast, and would be of comparable cost to repair. We're trying to help out, but these cars are expensive.

As for the shop quoting you for a swap, that's not including a rebuild. So basically you'll pull a junkyard engine, throw it in, and hope for the best. Who knows what kind of problems that engine has?

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Ace2cool wrote:Doesn't matter. What that means is you bought it AS a project. Does it run? No. Hence, project.

Get a leakdown tester. You need to see if this thing is even worth putting money into. If you have a damaged valve or head, or blown piston rings, you might as well do the swap, since this engine is toast, and would be of comparable cost to repair. We're trying to help out, but these cars are expensive.

As for the shop quoting you for a swap, that's not including a rebuild. So basically you'll pull a junkyard engine, throw it in, and hope for the best. Who knows what kind of problems that engine has?
I thank you for your constructive criticism. However if the motor does not have a bad valve, head gasket, piston or good compression. it should be worth fixing. I will get the to leakdown test this weekend. And the compression test. As for the TT swap. I dont understand what u mean by rebuild. I wouldnt buy it from a junkyard. They order it. I can give you the place that told me that price. Its NSP nissan sport performance in spartanburg south carolina. ( where i live ) He told me 4200 would be for everything including labor. I could maybe even get it cheaper then that because i know a lot of 240 people that are really good friends with him. He says 60k or less miles and good compression. Feel free to goggle the location and contact David the owner yourself. Im sure people from Nico have had a swap done by his team.

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You're not understanding the concept of the swap costing more than that. A new engine, or a rebuilt engine, is going to cost almost that much by itself. A stage 1 longblock from IPP is 3350, and that doesn't include shipping. That doesn't leave much overhead for labor. Most likely what will happen, is your shop will go to a salvage yard, pull an engine, put it in your car, and call it a day. That's just as reliable as what you have now.

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lthere is no such thing as new engines for our cars unless they are rebuilt. he means rebuild means taking the motor apart and putting it back together, replacing things that is worn with stronger equivalents or oem good condition parts. new gaskets, seals etc. When back together it is a new engine if done properly or significantly better than new.


problem with jdm engines, is by now they are getting harder and harder to get good ones, the good ones are already gone. These cars are in junk yards in japan, which means people who owned them didn't take care of them, new engines just dont come out of the sky they are not being manufactured anymore this car is 20 years old. people in japan dont take good care of there cars they have messed up regulations there which make it expensive to own old cars, so all the cars were driven like fricken race cars over there. 60k miles? yah 60k hard hard driven miles with water in the radiators instead of antifreeze.

The other thing is when a motor is out of a car for 10-15 years or a motor has sat for a long time.. all of the seals, gaskets and s*** dry rot rust and go bad, things rust up, you stick that thing in your car without rebuild good luck it will be worst than what you have now.

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Any update on the gas leak? Anyone ever had this similar problem?

I actually bought this car from the OP and went to search the problems with my Z ...google search lead me here. At least he made $600 profit, not bad! Taking it to my mechanic tomorrow so I will leave an update. Small world!

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Z_only_one993 wrote:Any update on the gas leak? Anyone ever had this similar problem?

I actually bought this car from the OP and went to search the problems with my Z ...google search lead me here. At least he made $600 profit, not bad! Taking it to my mechanic tomorrow so I will leave an update. Small world!
Well i knew the guy i got it from pretty well. He needed the money so i low balled him. Sorry bro. it still worth every penny if you part it out you can easy make money. Good luck with the car tho. Hopefully you dont have any grudges vs me. I bought it as it sits right now. I dont know much about these cars thats why i made this post.

as for the 1500 price. i still have people blowing me up for it. i need to remove the ad. I can give you their numbers if you dont want it anymore. Just text me or pm me. I really didnt make that much considering i had to tow it to my house, my mechanic, then back home. 3 tows total. 2 of them were a waste cuz he wouldnt even work on it. :*(

GO COWBOYS! :)

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No hard feelings man, im working with my mechanic on this car so im not paying much labor, if any. If its fixable, its worth $1500. If not, I will just take the motor out and spend the cash building it and single turbo it. Its paid for, so no reason to sell it.

Have you researched the battery light no start? I hope its not security relatsd. Either way, I got a project for $1500 with tons of time to put into it. Ill keep updates just in case this happens to someone else.

Go Gamecocks!

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Z_only_one993 wrote:No hard feelings man, im working with my mechanic on this car so im not paying much labor, if any. If its fixable, its worth $1500. If not, I will just take the motor out and spend the cash building it and single turbo it. Its paid for, so no reason to sell it.

Have you researched the battery light no start? I hope its not security relatsd. Either way, I got a project for $1500 with tons of time to put into it. Ill keep updates just in case this happens to someone else.

Go Gamecocks!
The battery in it is not OEM. It could be the wrong cold cranking amps but im not sure. You can reset the security alarm by holding the key in the door to the right for 5 sec. that deactivates that alarm protection. Even finding one of these cars with out a motor for 1500 is still pretty rare. its in good shape body and interior wise. But def keep me updated. it emails me everytime someone posts on here so ill see it. good luck bro. Hope all goes well :dblthumb:


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