No Brake lights No Blinkers can not get it out of park and will not start.

[ahanson]

I have no brake light no blinkers no power to the brake lights. Car will not come out of park. and will not start. Found that the starter has a short in it. waiting for mine to be rebuilt. will not come out of gear. have been told it could be my ignition. taht would explain no brake lights and no blinkers. not the key part the harness and the rod. Seems to think that the rod is not engaging the switch down bottom. that would cause the gears to be stuck in park. could this be the problem. i was also told the brake light might be due to a bad switch on the brake pedal or below it. I need help. i dont want to take it to the dealer there is no telling how much this will be. i can get all the parts for 100 bucks. I have a mechanic that figured out the starter ordeal in a few minutes. getting it out that is. But we need help on the symptoms. No Brake lights,blinkers,car stuck in park will not start. Fuses are all good and in place. putting in the starter tomorrow. will let you know. i hope the car will reset. battery is fully charged. HELP!!!!!! please

[Infinitiguy19]

You got yourself quite the cluster f***.

How do you know that the ignition switch has been touched?

Do you have the service history to this car and a Carfax report?

What kind of parts can you get for $100 and are the OEM?

Did this problem start all of the sudden or did you buy it like this?

Brake light switch is a good possibility, I would also check the relays responsible for the malfunctioning components, Also check the hazard switch.

Welcome to NICO.

[Q451990]

Welcome to NICO!

A bad brake pedal switch will certainly cause the car to be stuck in park... the shift lock solenoid works off of the same circuit.

Check to make sure your hazard switch is plugged in... it sounds like you (or your mechanic) had the dash apart. If that switch is unplugged the turn signals don't work... I have no idea what "rod" he's talking about...

Heath

[ahanson]

Yes Sir quite the cluster f*** here. Dude we have tried almost everything. I bought the car and it ran great!! for several months. I parked it to drive my truck and i went out a month later and it wouldnt start. wouldnt come out of gear. No brake lights no blinkers. Found out that the starter we thought was bad is good after taking it to another auto parts place. Was tested 5 times and it hit every time. So i am putting that back on to see if it will engage now. I bought the Brake switch for 6 bucks. the starter was 114.00 i didnt have to buy. I have not checked the Hazzards yet. I will do that today. i have not had the dash apart at all. I do have a mentally handicapped brother that is 49 that sometimes takes some fuses out. I made sure that all the fuses were in an in the right place. i am not getting any power back to the brake lights at all. verified with test light. I will let yoiu know what i find out with the hazzards and the brake switch. What about the ignition? My brother may have pulled down on the gear shifter when it wouldnt release and he may have pushed hard on the brake pedal. that is the only thing that i can think that he may have done. I have a damn good mechanic but not on the Nissan's. he is just a shade tree Mechanic. but a damn good one if you know what i mean.I just want to say that I really appreciate your help on this and trust me when i say i will buy you an yours dinner somewhere if we can figure this out without me having to spend a s*** load of money. The car is in great shape never wrecked and im telling you it ran GREAT!!! for several months with NO issues what so ever. went out and it would start. I had the battery checked and it has over 780 cranking amps. and it tested good.Talk to you soon.

[ahanson]

The Rod he is talking about is in the ignition that goes from the switch down somewhere that engages another switch. It is part of the ignition not the part that looks like a wiring harness but the part that runs down the steering colum. That is what the guys at the parts place told us anyway that it could be bent and not long enough to engage the switch that it is suppose to engauge. hell i dont know anymore either. I may just have to take the damn thing in to a Nissian Dealership somewhere.

Thanks

[goody90q45]

I have no brake light no blinkers no power to the brake lights. Car will not come out of park. and will not start. Found that the starter has a short in it. waiting for mine to be rebuilt.......i hope the car will reset. battery is fully charged. HELP!!!!!! please

It sounds like the alarm/security system has locked you out. Have you put the key in the trunk and driver side door? (I think that's the reset procedure.)

[ahanson]

We did that. Still nothing. I think that there is something wrong with the security system all together. Is there a way to by pass the whole system?We finally got the car cranked. We ran a wire from the starter to the battery and touch the post and it cranked. that means that there is no power getting to the starter from the ignition. The car is still in park it will not release unless i by pass it with the neutral safety switch. 1. No power to the starter from the ignition.2. No brake lights still3. No blinkers Still4. Stuck in Park still5. Replace Brake switch and nothing changed6. There is no display in the diagnostic window.7. No alarm i can lock the car and try to open the door and no alarm will sound. i can mess with the car and no alarm will sound.I can get it started i think i am about to take it to the dreaded dealership.Man i hate that but i cant seem to figure it out. Paul has offered up many suggestion we replaced the brake switch and still no brake lights and will not come out of gear. Thought that would do it but did not. HELP!!!

[ahanson]

DID SO HAZZARDS ARE IN. REPLACED THE BRAKE SWITCH. GOT THE CAR STARTED BY RUNNING A WIRE TO THE BATTERY FROM THE STARTER AND IT STARTED IT. STILL ALL THE SAME SYMPTOMS1. NO BRAKE LIGHTS2. NO BLINKERS3. STUCK IN PARK4. WILL NOT CRANK5. REPLACE BRAKE SWITCH6. GOT IT CRANKED BUT HAVE NO POWER FROM IGNITION TO STARTER.7. CHECKED ALL FUSES.8. SECURITY DOES NOT SEEM TO BE WORKING IT WILL NOT SOUND ALARMTRIED EVERYTHING.HELP GUYS DOES ANYONE KNOW A NISSIAN MECHANIC?

[Infinitiguy19]

Tried to call you but no answer so:

Read the entire Anti-theft section of the service manual and perform all the tests shown. If your mechanic has a Nissan Consult then it will be faster, If not a Volt OHM Meter will do.

If you do that and it passes then look into the BCM*. Do you have any other problems with the car?

*Body Control Module

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh...tlink http://picasaweb.google.com/lh...tlink

The first picture shown above is from the service manual and the second one is from Nissan FAST (A dealer parts program).

If the other stuff also checks out good I would check the shift lock solenoid as shown above.

[ahanson]

Sorry about the call. we had a long day working on this thing. I do not have any other problems with the car at all. It actually only has 70 thousand miles on it. The care runs great!! just the issues with what is going on now. I will read this and preform all the test. I read yesterday about the continuity test. you have to go to every one of the sources and check it through the BCM for continuity. That wouldnt be so bad if there wasnt about 100 of these points to check.

I will check all of these things and get back with you later. I think that i will stick to working on my boat and leave the electrical systems to the ones that know what there doing. I will let you know the outcome.

Real quick where is the BCM located and is there more than one. What does it look like? Is it just a plug or a square sensor?

I will see if i can locate it by the drawing. I still can not find the plug in for the diagnosis machine. We looked where the book shows by the fuse panel and can not find it.

[goody90q45]

.....I think that there is something wrong with the security system all together......

If you think it's the security system locking you out it probably is. Have you gone through all 5 steps of the Security System Check on pages EL-180 and EL-181? Give us results for each step. What's the yellow light doing after 30 seconds? After 2 1/2 minutes?

http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/Q45/1994_Q45/el.pdf

[ahanson]

I will do the security check and let you guys know. If i am correct in saying that the security lights may not even be working. i will check them to make sure that i am getting some kind of indication that the security system is even engauged. when i messed with the car the alarm did not even go off so it may not even be working.

I drove the car today and it ran great!! I couldnt even feel the car shift it was so smooth. It runs fine i mean better than fine. But still no brake lights, no blinkers, stuck in park i had to use the release to drive it. and it still has no power to the starter. Also i noticed that the doorlocks will not unlock from the drivers side. They will lock but not unlock using the buttons on the drivers door. The aircondition fan is not working now either. It worked fine before i let it sit. It will come on and let me adjust the temp and on auto the fan will not engauge. I can see when i turn the fan up manually that the lights light up the fan blades from 1 to 2 to 4. But the fan will not come on. It also worked fine before it was parked. everyday it sounds more like a fuse issue to me but we have checked everyone of them and they are all good. Does anyone have a copy or a picture of where in a stock 95 Q45 the fuses should be? What slots should have a fuse and what amp? THere should be a picture or a list of what positions should be taken and with what amperage. I dont see that diagram in the E section. I do but i guess it depends on what acsessories were put in the car. The main fuses would do i guess. I will keep looking.

Thanks guys for all your help

[goody90q45]

I will do the security check and let you guys know......I drove the car today and it ran great!! I couldnt even feel the car shift it was so smooth. It runs fine i mean better than fine.......

I'm confused. I thought we were talking about a car whose engine wouldn't start with a transmission that wouldn't shift out of park?

[Infinitiguy19]

I thought you said all relays and fuses were in and in the right places?

If you have a bad relay or just one that's missing let me know and you can have it just pay the shipping.

But the fuse and layout and descriptions are in the service manual.

[ahanson]

No, Paul and i have been back and forth on this one i have a car that runs perfectly if i crank it from the starter to the battery and by pass everything in between.The above listed talks give you all the issues that i am having. The transmission is fine i cant even fill it shift going at any speed. I ran a wire from the starter to the battery to get it running. The lighs in the left hand dash are all litt up. Oil, Security,cruise control, abs. I am going back one more time to check ALL the fuse's and all the relays to make sure they are all in the correct place. I will let you guys know.

Thanks

[Infinitiguy19]

There are so many possibilities that its not even funny, But you might want to check the SMJ AKA Super Multiple Junction unit. If someone used a 10 MM socket and unscrewed it that may cause the problems your having too I supposes. And its near the interior fuse box as well.

Call me up if you need any help.

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Modified by Paul Wall at 6:08 PM 11/9/2009

[junebday59]

Guys...you need to finish this thread. Many of us are very interested in this topic but no one has got back to give the end result.Thanks

[Q451990]

Welcome to NICO! Do you have the same symptoms?

Heath