Nitrous ?'s

[93HATCH240]

Hey guys I recently got my hands on what is called a "shady shot" or "sneeky pete" if you would like to call it that. Its a 30 shot with a 10oz. bottle. Its a dry shot. I have everything wired up and the bottle filled. My timing is stock. I have magnacore wires with bosch platinum +2 plugs. It's a 93 chassis witha 95 ka motor. My other mods are in my sig. I;m using 93 octane also My problem is with the bottle fully opened and the switch armed when i hit the button for it to relase the nitrous under full thorttle it doesnt even feel like its doing anything. I hear the solenoid activate as it hit the button and i can hear it come out of the nozzle. I had drilled a hole in my intake about 6 inches from the throttle body and made sure the nozzle was facing the tb. Felt as if nothing was being sprayed. I then talked to a few people and I decided to put it through my air filter so it sprays through the maf and everything can get adjusted accordingl by the maf. Even then under full throttle it made a very slight difference. Any ideas why I would barely feel it. I understand its a 30 shot but my friend had it in his 240 and he said yo were able to feel it when its activated. he had it hooked up the first way i did(6 inches from the throttle body). Sorry for such a long post but I wanted to get all the info to you i can. Any help is welcomed.
Modified by 93HATCH240 at 9:15 PM 6/21/2007

[GOT TO LOVE MI 240sx]

i want the body parts ur selling ....... go to it plz!!!!!!!

[churro]

Power comes from gasoline, not nitrous. There's no way for the ECU to know to add more fuel. You're just leaning out your mixture buddy.

[93HATCH240]

Power comes from gasoline, not nitrous. There's no way for the ECU to know to add more fuel. You're just leaning out your mixture buddy.

So what would you suggest I do?? Move it back to a few inches before the throttle body? I'm already using 93 octane
Modified by 93HATCH240 at 9:29 PM 6/21/2007

[churro]

Go back to shooting through the MAF, and make sure you are spraying liquid nitrous.

[93HATCH240]

Go back to shooting through the MAF, and make sure you are spraying liquid nitrous.

Its a 30 dry shot. Its still hooked up through the maf but its kinda rigged the way its held on. I just did it rigged to see if there was any diff. in performance. I'm gonna fix it up 2maro after work. Should I be retarding my timing at all or be doing anything else different? Thanks for the replies.

[churro]

A dry system just means only nitrous is being introduced. A wet system introduces both fuel and nitrous. Both systems require that liquid nitrous be injected into the intake. As far as timing, I don't think you really have to for really short, low power squirts. The ECU will automatically retard it and you're running 93 octane. If you want to be safe you can retard base timing a few degrees.

[Florida240sx]

go turbo or buy a 75-100shot kit

[Razi]

Having only Nitrous ftl.

[93HATCH240]

Having only Nitrous ftl.

Got it for free and installed for free. enough said. and costs 5 bucks to fill a 10oz tank.

go turbo or buy a 75-100shot kit

I wanted to get a 50-75 wet shot but couldnt justify spending $470 bucks on a kit. I know I could probly resell it for maybe $400 when i'm done with it. As for turbo I just want a cheap bang for the buck for now. Eventually I will turbo since I have a spare block thats gonna be built up in the upcoming months.

Is there anything else I should be doing differently with my current set-up?


Modified by 93HATCH240 at 10:21 AM 6/22/2007

[nismodriver28]

everything with nitrous is about pressure. If ur 10oz tank isnt at 950psi its kinda useless. and a 30hp shot isnt exactly noticeable. if ur looking for the wheels spinning when u hit the switch effect u need to run 65hp and wet nitrous becuase nitrous doesnt add hp its the ability to burn extra fuel while ur injecting nitrous into ur engine. so unless u were running really lean b4 dont expect wonders with that kit. also ideal placement of ur nitrous jet is 12 to 16in from the throttlebody.

[Brandon93240]

Ok some of the comments on here are not true at all, if you have never had nitrous on a car, tuned a system then you need to shut the f&ck up. As for the original poster theres already a bunch of nitrous threads on here search. I put a pretty elaberate post on here a while ago about different setups and what I have personally done. As far as the nozzle being that far away it will puddle and backfire, it is supposed to be 4-6 inches before the tb on a nozel kit. As far as the idiot telling you to put it before the maf so the ecu can tune for it, that has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard, you don't need to be giving any advice at all to anybody about nitrous. Also you need to read about how mafs work so you'll know why I'm calling you an idiot. Also to the op, you can find kits on ebay for around 200-250 for a nice wet kit. I'd hunt for a nitrous express kit they use the highest quality materials in their solenoids and I have never seen one go static. Also you can get a nos bottle heater for about 50 bucks used, if you don't have that a burnzomatic works good to get bottle pressure up, just make sure you don't burn your car down, its hillbilly but it will work.

[Logan76]

you dont want that before your maf, it will screw with youf maf readings and cause your car to run like crap, no one in this thread has posted any worthwhile info except brandon, He is very correct, and I would buy a Nitrous express wet kit or a NOS wet kit, they are both affordable, and then you can buy a walboro fuel pump, and an MSD timing retard box, and hook that right up to your solenoid, so when you run your nitrous shot you pull time. I would pull 3* or so for a 75-100shot...

[nismodriver28]

first off i do own a nitrous kit and have tuned not only my car but others cars also. I guess u must be one of those internet tuff guys swearing and telling people to shut the **** up cause u wouldnt say it to ther face, easy to sit and type when theres one there to knock u out for being the idiot. And everything i said about needing correct pressure is aboslutely true. What do u think heating up your tank does? it raises pressure moron. and I never said anything about running b4 the massflow i said 12-16 inchs from the throttle body. next time u start telling someone there wrong make sure that ur right and that ur talking to the right person.

[churro]

Makes you feel tough calling someone out over the internet doesn't it? He's running a DRY setup. There is no fuel to puddle or backfire. As for shooting before the MAF, the nitrous will have changed to gas long before it gets there. He asked for help on how to get his current rig working. He didn't ask for anyone to tell him to get a turbo kit or a real high-end nitrous system.

[Logan76]

I still wouldnt shoot anything before the MAF...its just not a good practice.

[churro]

To be clear, DO NOT spray directly through the MAF. You want to introduce the liquid nitrous before it, so that the MAF can read the cold dense charge.

[Brandon93240]

Read the freq asked questions on NOS and NX website, it clearly states to mount the nozzle 4-6 inches before the tb and behind the mafs for a wet kit or a dry kit. Mounting the nozzle that far away will lose power, the engine has to suck the nitrous in instead of the pressure of the bottle forcing the nitrous into the engine. The gas will sit in the intake pipe(which is considered puddling wet or dry)mounted that far back. Also I really don't care what anybody thinks of me on here, I'm just setting the op straight so he has a better idea how to setup what he has or another system. Also I've had nitrous or some sort of f/i on almost every vehicle I've owned. In 2001 I had the fasted ls1 powered 10.5 inch street class car for 2 seasons until 3D racing beat me out, that was a blown and sprayed car so I do know what I'm talking about. If you think I'm wrong or anything I've said is untrue print this and call NX and ask to talk to Tony, and he'll set you straight.

[Brandon93240]

o and buy the way, if you want to fly down to houston tx I'll tell you to your face to shut the f*ck up after I kick it in.

[Logan76]

Any pic's of the LS1 vehicle? I assume it was a camaro SS?

[churro]

Yeah becuase I take everyone with the last name "Fashizel" seriously. You're an adult act like one.

[Brandon93240]

pics are on thirdgen.org. i dont put my real info on forums, the fact that you looked up my profile for my personal info is funny, what a tard.

[churro]

Just making sure you weren't some whiny 13 year old. It says 22 but it doesn't seem like it.

I'm done with this.

[Razi]

Brandon is a gangstaaaaaaa!

[93HATCH240]

Hey guys thanks for the help.I'm going to be looking into a wet shot kit on ebay since dealers are like $470. Id rather spend the $350 then resell it in like 3 or 4 months for like $300 hopefully. But as long as i have my fun idc. This kit will be professionaly installed with no ghetto rigging by ures truly. Who knew you can shove a 10oz tank behind ure dash and still have easy access to it lol. Anyways thanks again.

[Brandon93240]

actually ima OG, to the op good luck with your kit, also you should think about getting a bottle heater(NX is the best)and a purge solenoid. If you need any info about setting it up or install pm me and I'll help you out.

[93HATCH240]

I'm actually just thinking about buying a 5 or 10lb. bottle and a bottle heaeter and sticking witht he 30 shot if i can get it to work then switch nozzles to a 40 or 50 shot

[93HATCH240]

Hey guys I have 1 more question. The person who had this kit before me said he took the 30 shot nozzle off and put the tube coming from the bottle directly through his intake pipe 4-6 inches from the tb without having any type of nozzle on. The shot only lasted all of 2nd and 3rd gear b4 the bottle emptied. How bad is it to just put the line in and spray away???

[93HATCH240]

ttt

[boosted_SR]

im have a direct port 125shot at its crazy , smoked some cobras and evo's