nitrous...a good idea?

Post by **collk88** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

ok, im becoming discouraged with my inablility to save enough money for an sr20 swap. however i will not give up and continue to try and get 3000 bucks together. in the mean time i was considering buying a nitrous kit for my ka24de. Is this a good idea? iv been told that using nitrous would be fine and isnt damaging to you engine, but other people have told me that it puts a lot of stress on your engine and its not a good idea to do. i just wnat something to mess around with so im only thinking of getting a 50 shot or somthing small. i need some feedback because i really dont know anything about nitrous and im getting mixed answers.

Post by **Supafly** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

i'm sure if you do a search for nitrous you'll find specific info on this subject. but basically, keep it safe, small shot, and make sure it's a wet kit not dry and generally it won't cause any issues. the biggest mistakes people make are running dry kits with no fuel tuning or running too large of a kit on a high mileage tired old motor.

Post by **240Kuminachu** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

NAWs isnt really that cool, my buddy put it on his accord and i wasnt that impresed, also a firend put it on his grand=am, it was a 75 shot on both, I honestly was not impresed, my turbo pulls harder on 7psi, Save up!

Post by **collk88** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

yea, i think im gonna scrap the nitrous idea for now at least. its not worth it. im really just putting off what i really want...SR20DET!!..........so im gonna be doing my best to save up.

Post by **nismofan14** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

240Kuminachu wrote:NAWs isnt really that cool, my buddy put it on his accord and i wasnt that impresed, also a firend put it on his grand=am, it was a 75 shot on both, I honestly was not impresed, my turbo pulls harder on 7psi, Save up!

Not to sound like a ****, but he isn't running it on an accord or grand am. Have you ever rode in a 240 with Nitrous? You might be a little more impressed. I am running a 150shot at the moment but I was at a 75 before and it is plenty for the street. The only thing that sucks is filling the bottle but it is the best bang for the buck. Also is a good temporary power adder till I can get my turbo KA up and running.

Post by **240Kuminachu** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

And why would I be a little more impresed? Naws is Naws....

Post by **nismofan14** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

240Kuminachu wrote:And why would I be a little more impresed? Naws is Naws....

Because you cant compare nitrous on a ****ing honda accord or a grand am to a 240sx. You cant even compare the other 2. They are different cars and they will react a little different to nitrous, boost, and other mods. And what the **** is up with this Naws.....i guess it should be expected from someone who makes ignorant statements. Nitrous is nitrous but an accord isn't a 240sx or a grand am.

You can like your sr all you want but don't say that ntrous is a waste of time when you don't even run it on your car.

Post by **Big Manne** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

i am spraying a 60ish shot wet on my completely stock 95 and so far it has been fine. i do know it was fun paying 2500 for my car and 150 for my N.O.S. kit and beat the **** out of a 15,000 dollar honda. everytime i think about it i giggle.

Post by **Nathan** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

I keep being tempted to put a direct port 1-150 shot on the KA-T...I kinda want the transmission to last for at least a little while though

Besides, I should probably get the car to frieking run first...

Post by **240Kuminachu** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

Jeeze dude settle down. An engine is an engine is an engine, and if anything a honda motor will respond better to it because thier top ends kick ***. Your getting butt hurt over something stupid.

People use N20 for the wrong reasons, sure its fun to play around with, but it sould be used to break into the 10's and to deal with lag. With the money spent on refiling it adds up very quick. I plan on getting it, I always have wanted it, but a turbo gives better results, and is CONSTANT.

You go play with your Nitrous, and dont make fun of me for saying Naws, it makes you sound like a ricer.

Oh yea, the guy with the grand am, just blew his transmission cause of the NAWS. I know its a pontiac and they are s***, just be careful and use it wisely.

Peace

Post by **cory2081** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

240Kuminachu wrote:Jeeze dude settle down. An engine is an engine is an engine, and if anything a honda motor will respond better to it because thier top ends kick ***. Your getting butt hurt over something stupid.

People use N20 for the wrong reasons, sure its fun to play around with, but it sould be used to break into the 10's and to deal with lag. With the money spent on refiling it adds up very quick. I plan on getting it, I always have wanted it, but a turbo gives better results, and is CONSTANT.

You go play with your Nitrous, and dont make fun of me for saying Naws, it makes you sound like a ricer.

Oh yea, the guy with the grand am, just blew his transmission cause of the NAWS. I know its a pontiac and they are s***, just be careful and use it wisely.

Peace

Pontiacs are s!$# eh??? I beg to differ, the trans might be weak in those front wheel drive cars, but those GM V6's are strong and LOVE boost!! I have a friend with a Grand Prix GTP (supercharged in case you didnt know), that thing is a torque monster. I had a Buick GN, so, I know first hand what those 6 bangers are capable of.....in the right hands. We raced an S13 with an SR on the highway, he barely beat us....I was not impressed by the SR.

Post by **240Kuminachu** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

Ok..OK...Ok... so let me get this straight..... Your buddys V6 SUPERCHARGED TORQUE MONSTER! was beat by a 4-BANGER! And you werent impresed?

Thats all I needed to know.. Ha ha ha ha......

Post by **nismofan14** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

240Kuminachu wrote:Jeeze dude settle down. An engine is an engine is an engine, and if anything a honda motor will respond better to it because thier top ends kick ***. Your getting butt hurt over something stupid.

People use N20 for the wrong reasons, sure its fun to play around with, but it sould be used to break into the 10's and to deal with lag. With the money spent on refiling it adds up very quick. I plan on getting it, I always have wanted it, but a turbo gives better results, and is CONSTANT.

You go play with your Nitrous, and dont make fun of me for saying Naws, it makes you sound like a ricer.

Peace

But its not NAWS, and that just irritates me. Its like that is the thing to rag on since it was in that **** movie, but if that is the case then you should rag on the almighty sr since that was also.

As for a honda motor responding better, my friend has an 97 integra and at the time we had an equal mods except he was running a 70 dry shot and I was running a 50 shot on a wet system and he lost pretty bad.

Also, n2o should be used only for a spool kit, how did you come to that conclusion? Nitrous has many applications other than that and is perferred by some ppl. Turbo isn't for everyone. I wasn't getting all bent out of shape, but you shouldn't make comments about something that you don't even run on your car and from the sound of it, dont have a lot of knowledge about.

Post by **240Kuminachu** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

Alright, hows this, I wont call it Naws anymore, Go Go juice, hows that, it was on a movie also, ok.. It was used in WWII (WWI?) on airplanes for an extra bit of power to get out of a sticky situation. Later hot rods adapted it to break into the low numbers, 9's, 10's whatever, not to street race in a 14 sec car. Turbo users were using n20 to spool up thier huge turbos before we were even born, so thats why I say that. And just because someone doesnt have something on thier car that U do, doesnt make you an expert, or make them less informed, dont assume that, you will make yourself look like an ***..

Lets be friends!

Post by **IvoryJ30t** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

whats wrong about calling it naws as opposed to nitrous is that its a specific company, and its not even naws, its N O S.

en oh es.

you say the letters, not naws.

Post by **IvoryJ30t** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

get it? Nitrous Oxide Systems

N O S

it irritates me to when people say naws. call it nitrous, or N2O, unless your specifically referencing a Nitrous Oxide Systems' product. then call it N O S.

Post by **240Kuminachu** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

Oh my bad I've never heard of N.O.S.

well you learn new something every day hu..

Post by **jdmfreak** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

Seriously? You've never heard about them?

Post by **cory2081** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

240Kuminachu wrote:Ok..OK...Ok... so let me get this straight..... Your buddys V6 SUPERCHARGED TORQUE MONSTER! was beat by a 4-BANGER! And you werent impresed?

Thats all I needed to know.. Ha ha ha ha......

You just told me everything I need to know about how much you know about cars. First off, that GTP weighs in at 3,600lbs. Secondly, we raced on the highway and the GTP sucks from that speed. The guy WOULD NOT race us from a light b/c he knew what would happen......he'd get his *** kicked. For the $$ and the trouble of swapping, why not just turbo the KA?? My KA has intake and exhaust and the GTP barely beat it from a roll when I still had my slipping worn out stock clutch. I could beat that guys SR with a 50 shot....lol.

Post by **240Kuminachu** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

Dude your bein a dumb A$$. Talkin up your buddys GT will get you know where, good for him, he has a brick on wheels, wish I had one. Go turbo your KA, GT's are slow especially if your ka kept up as good as you say. Im sure since your ka was barely beaten by the GT that your ka would walk on an SR hu?

Lets not bicker bro, dont compare a pontiac to a 240, not the same car, OK? My brother has a pontiac, its been the bigest piece of s***, wait till his reaches 75K, he'll be haten life, its the truth, dont get offended. I drive my 240 for the fun factor, not to go in a straight line.

To each his own

Peace

Post by **cory2081** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

well, this GTP has over 80,000 miles....it's just fine. It runs low 9's in the 1/8 mile with some traction problems. I'm just making the point that GTPs are not to be underestimated. You should see how pissed the Mustang and turbo Eclipse boys get when they get whipped by a 4 door from a light. I had a brick on wheels too, a Buick GN. I know you arent going to tell me that it was slow. I never got beat by anything on the street.....not even a WS6 Trans Am on the highway that had tons of bolt-ons and a 150shot. My "brick" was a low 11 second car and I drove it daily and got 18MPG and had A/C. I drive my 240 for fun too, but, it's not fun when it won't smoke the tires from 60MPH. So, I'm gonna fix that problem, gonna build a KA that has some balls to it.....if that doesnt do it......I'll drop a GN engine in it with a 5 speed trans!! lol

Post by **Big Manne** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

i have a friend with a GTP. and that thing is not slow at all . its not factory though. he has done a few things to it. but i have seen video of a GTP running in the 11's in 1/4 mile. thats hauling *** for a 4 door family car

Post by **nismofan14** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

Dude i am not tryin to be your enemy, I was just stating that you should not have told the kid to forget about nitrous and buy an sr.

Also, reading the history of nitrous of holley's NOS homepage and then retyping it in this thread is not what I meant by having knowledge. I meant that you make pointless statements about how it should only be used to break into low numbers on the drag strip or as a spool kit and not to street race a 14 second car. You dont run it so what do you know about it other than what you can read? The only difference between you and someone using a nitrous setup that you spend thousands and use exhaust gas- they spent 500 hundred or more and spray a chemical compound into their motor. You spent all that to race around in a low 14 second turbo car, so why cant they use nitrous to race around in a 14 second car. Sure you can up the boost but they can up the shot. So when you stop with the comments of how it should only be used as you see fit then we can be friends...lol

Peace

Post by **Nathan** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

But they have to refill their bottles

GTP's are not sucky cars either, that supercharged 3.8 is a plenty sturdy and reliable little engine with a lot of grunt.

Post by **northstar ninja** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

someone forgot to mention that pontiacs are gm cars, so are buick gran nationals, and well thier v6 turbo isnt anything to scoff at... just my.02-g

Post by **cory2081** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

well, well, looks like there are plenty of GM V6 lovers here. THere is a Turbo GTP that runs in the 10's now. That's the fastest one I know of.

Post by **JustinStrife** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

I've never driven a V6 supercharged grand am, but my dad has a grand prix with a v6 NA and it hauls ***. Also I use to own a 93' Grand Am with the 2.3l motor and 5spd and for the weight of the car it was plenty fast. Had 175hp and 155lb of torque at flywheel and weighs several hundred lbs more then a 240. I loved that car. One of the only FF I ever liked.

But FR is where I want to go, so I had to change cars.

Some pontiacs suck ***.. Just don't bad mouth them all. Cause some are serious performers for what they are.

Post by **Turb0wned** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

if you do get it make sure its direct port i hate wet kits

Post by **jdmfreak** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

Why is that.

Post by **JustinStrife** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:58 am

Ya why is that?

I've heard wet kits are the way to go?

nitrous...a good idea?

nitrous...a good idea?

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