Nitrogen In tires

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Scuba Steve
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I finally put nitrogen in my tires today, I'll have to see if it really makes a difference. www.nitrogeneration.com


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Scuba Steve wrote:I finally put nitrogen in my tires today, I'll have to see if it really makes a difference. www.nitrogeneration.com
...difference in what? you do realize don't you that air is already 78% nitrogen. Money making scam in my book. Any difference you will see in whatever difference you are looking for is likely imperceptible.
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nitrogen will actually not very pressure as much when tires are warm, its not bad if you get it filled somewhere for free, if you have to pay for it i would not, cosco used to offer it for free

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$30-60 to fill my tires with nitrogen or use the air compressor in my garage? Hmm...

I know the supposed benefits on nitrogen but they don't outweigh the price...

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Shad0wXCalibur wrote:$30-60 to fill my tires with nitrogen or use the air compressor in my garage? Hmm...

I know the supposed benefits on nitrogen but they don't outweigh the price...
hmm i dont know it costs 50 cents to fill air in my tires in my local gas station.

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Vahagn23 wrote:
hmm i dont know it costs 50 cents to fill air in my tires in my local gas station.
let's see. 30 divided by 0.50 is 60. If it costs $30 to fill your tires with N2, then you can do it 60 times at your gas station.

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fjwagner wrote:
let's see. 30 divided by 0.50 is 60. If it costs $30 to fill your tires with N2, then you can do it 60 times at your gas station.
lol I only filled it once last year.

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Vahagn23 wrote:lol I only filled it once last year.
only once all year? should be checking your air pressure at least once a month if not more.

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fjwagner wrote:
only once all year? should be checking your air pressure at least once a month if not more.
never said he checked it once, he said he only put air in once.

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i dunno about you guys, but i put helium in my tires... makes the car lighter...

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Hey Scuba, don't the Versa tires already have memory foam in them?

(sorry, I had to)

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my god.... only check or pump your tire once a yr??

Do you know how much water is included when you use those air pump from the gas station??

Steve, for sure you will feel it once you do some crazy driving, but still... make sure you check your tire pressure once a month. Using Nitrogen doesn't mean they will not run away

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SuperTurbo wrote:my god.... only check or pump your tire once a yr??

Do you know how much water is included when you use those air pump from the gas station??

Steve, for sure you will feel it once you do some crazy driving, but still... make sure you check your tire pressure once a month. Using Nitrogen doesn't mean they will not run away
Err... Scuba Steve never said he only fill or check tires once a year.


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Why check tire preasure? That is what these wounderful TPMS's are for.

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I am not sure how sensitive is that device. that's why...

Usually the left side or right side is off by 3-4 PSI, I can feel it, and sometimes it does drives me nuts although it's only 3-4 PSI

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Nitrogen is mainly used to prevent pressure changes due to temperature variance or temperature spikes. Nitrogen is a highly inert gas that doesnt change pressure due to temp easily. It's used in the GT-R to prevent pressure change due to friction during hard cornering. Aircraft tires use it to reduce the chance of tires popping on landing due to temp.

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Never checked it nor filled it after that. :D went a 6k trip in a week and still good, but it looks like its a little low on it.

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Red Devil wrote:Nitrogen is mainly used to prevent pressure changes due to temperature variance or temperature spikes. Nitrogen is a highly inert gas that doesnt change pressure due to temp easily. It's used in the GT-R to prevent pressure change due to friction during hard cornering. Aircraft tires use it to reduce the chance of tires popping on landing due to temp.
I understand the theory behind it, but what I mean is.... how can you 100% sure that the tire & rims are 100% tight sealed?

The biggest problem for me is air leak right at the edge of the tires, after 1 month-ish, it usually lost around 1-3lbs for my car

I find out that air is actually quite constant if you get some good quality, no water's air already (The best which you can get at the street is only good up to 0.5lb) Plus, our car only have less than 300 Horse, so.....

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XterraVersa wrote:Why check tire preasure? That is what these wounderful TPMS's are for.
NO NO NO NO NO

you still need to check your damn tire pressures. relying on a sensor for something that important is how catastrophic failures happen

and nitrogen doesnt belong in a street car IMO. its a waste of time and money. only on a racetrack will you notice a real difference.

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Sucks that sarcasm doesn't work well on the I-net.

My TPMS light was always on for ~22k miles before I traded the V for my Z.

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I will repeat. Air is 78% nitrogen!!!!

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fjwagner wrote:I will repeat. Air is 78% nitrogen!!!!
Sounds good.... so.... what are you trying to tell us first??

Don't waste money on filling 100% Nitrogen into tires? or....

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Red Devil,
Red Devil wrote:Nitrogen is mainly used to prevent pressure changes due to temperature variance or temperature spikes. Nitrogen is a highly inert gas that doesnt change pressure due to temp easily. It's used in the GT-R to prevent pressure change due to friction during hard cornering. Aircraft tires use it to reduce the chance of tires popping on landing due to temp.
Nitrogen use in aircraft tires is done because nitrogen contains no moisture which over time can corrode wheels. It has nothing to do with temp and tires popping

Save your money everyone. It's the biggest scam going. I stopped by and looked at a new Pathfinder. On the dealer "side" sticker it read:

*Nitrogen filled tires:$100.00

Biggest Hoax around. Well......at least you get green valve stem covers to let the world know how gullible you are.

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Just curious, how much does it exactly cost to do that in the States?

In Canada, most stores did that from 20-40can. (I would say a quite reasonable range, plus some of them is lifetime. Only time which you need to pay again is when either one of the tire poped, they charge you like 5 bucks to re-fill it)

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I paid $6.00 per tire with lifetime refills. If it was more I would not bother.

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SuperTurbo wrote:
Sounds good.... so.... what are you trying to tell us first??

Don't waste money on filling 100% Nitrogen into tires? or....
yes, paying big bucks for N2 is likely a waste of money. If you get it free, what the heck.

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The Costco near me will inflate my tires with nitrogen for free. I just asked them when they aren't busy. Tire pressure check, inflation and rotation are free maintenance for as long as you own tires purchased from them, but I am still on OEM tires.

On other note, Formula 1 teams started filling their tires with CO2 last year. Get ready for another paradigm shift.

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iluvmyVersa08 wrote:My 2008 Versa (which I purchsed 5 months ago new) came with its tires filled with nitrogen. I have gone in for one oil change so far and Nissan checks everything and so far the tires are great. Even took a 3000 km roadtrip a few weeks ago and never once had to fill the tires. Apparently nitrogen tires do not need to be filled as often as air filled tires. I don't know how much it costs to fill them, but if its better for my car I dont mind spending the money. I get great gas mileage which is always directly related to having properly inflated tires. Did anyone else's Versa actually come with nitrogen filled tires straight from the manufacturer? Cuz mine actually has stickers saying that my vehicle runs on nitrogen. And the air valve caps are chrome with a green N on it (which means they are filled with nitrogen).
That is not unusual for air either which by the way is 78% N2, but I think I have said that already.

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msb0b wrote:On other note, Formula 1 teams started filling their tires with CO2 last year. Get ready for another paradigm shift.
we have been filling offroad tires with CO2 for years. So much faster to air up with a 10lb bottle of CO2 than using a pump after a trail run.

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My tires came filled with Nitrogen when I bought my V brand new. I just put my stock tires back on today after having them off during the winter. My dad checked the tire pressure and it was still perfect. My car was 1 year old on April 2, and the nitrogen filled stock tires have not had to be filled ONCE! Pretty good!


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