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i don't know how every else feels, but, i think the horn on my Q sounds a little,,,,,,,,,,wimpy!!!!! not a big deal at all, but, is it possible to grab, say, a cadillac horn and do a quick swap????? is this a big deal?? just feel that with an aggressive machine like the Q, the horn should sound a little bit more "throaty" than the horn on my sentra!!!! any thoughts?jeff


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Search my posts, I have a 140 dB horn (ebay) that is amazing, and easy to mount.

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Anyone know what the dB rating is for the stock Q horns?

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Let's just say you could yell louder.

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I guess thats what sucks about having a perfect Q... You have to start finding things wrong with it!

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exactly wes!!!!!! i love my Q so much,,,,,i pick out things that could be better! guess things could be worse if what i end up with is the horn!!!! like i said, nitpicking, but would would like something stronger.

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Yeha you could have a little gnome inside your engine banging around like crazy....

I could send you my horn and you could have dually's... Mine is a little deeper than other Q horns, maybe it was replaced? Maybe you could wire up the 2nd horn for the alarm into the same circuit......

I did a cerimonial restart of the Q today, and she is so sick... She must be put to rest soon.....

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BTW, in case you noticed, I took the commas out of NITPICKING I KNOW.... BUT..... In your title.. That drives me crazy and I coudlnt take it anymre

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Does the Q use an electronic horn? I remember my two 929s had them, and while they were "high tech" sort of in the late 80s, they sounded like sick wheezing kittens.

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Jesda wrote:Does the Q use an electronic horn?
As opposed to what, air horns? They're electrically powered...

I think a good (and cheap) solution would be a horn from another Nissan... the horn on my 97 truck is pretty loud. There have to be hundreds sitting around in junk yards for next to nothing. I think the goal with the Q was to sound "european" but when someone is making a lane change that could put me out of business louder is better.

You just want to make sure you don't replace it with something that pulls more current and risk damaging the relay.

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It sounded like a tone generated by a 1985 Casio keyboard.

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AZhitman wrote:Search my posts, I have a 140 dB horn (ebay) that is amazing, and easy to mount.
140db, you say. Is that rated in actual decibels? Or is it one of those weird rating scales where they measure ever 10db increase as a doubling of sound?

140db would cause you to go deaf. IIRC, 120db is enough to make most people go deaf. Most aftermarket horns are truely rated at ~102~110db, maybe even as high as 115db. Remember, every 3db increase is a doubling of sound output. So, a 140db rating is probably the result of a companies marketing gimmicks

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PoorManQ45 wrote:140db, you say. Is that rated in actual decibels? Or is it one of those weird rating scales where they measure ever 10db increase as a doubling of sound?

140db would cause you to go deaf. IIRC, 120db is enough to make most people go deaf.
Depends on how far you are from it. I can think of many things that generate close to 140dB SPL if you are close enough to them! I would not be surprised if a car horn at a few inches is that loud or near it. Since I have an SPL meter, I think I will check it sometime soon.

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at first i was like, "an air horn??????". was just looking for something deeper. but the more i think about it, when do you use your horn, either to get someone's attention or to wake up another driver ready to slam into you. you definitly want the loudest thing you can find!!!! makes sense, greg.

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It's definitely 140dB, and it can be heard a city block away.

Well worth the $40 I spent, just to WAKE UP some schmuck on the freeway drifting into my lane during my commute.

Should be a MANDATORY upgrade to EVERY G50, right after transmission cooler and Tokico Blues.

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p.s. PMQ:

Because the dB scale is logarithmic, every 10dB = a doubling in perceived sound.

As regards car audio, an increase of 3dB requires a doubling of amplifier power.

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AZhitman wrote:Because the dB scale is logarithmic, every 10dB = a doubling in perceived sound.
Um.... ok, like I said, every 3db increase creates a true doubling of sound "loudness". Even though the change in "loudness" may not be noticable, it is still a doubling.
AZhitman wrote:As regards car audio, an increase of 3dB requires a doubling of amplifier power.
yes, but a 3db increase in sensitivity of a driver will amount to to the same "volume" output at half the power. Example. A driver with a sensitivity of 92db 1w/1m requires half the power that a driver with a sensitivity of 89db 1w/1m requires to produce a 95db spl. BTW. the 92db driver would require ~2w. The 89db driver would require ~4w.

[Highjack.] When you guys look for speakers/drivers for your cars/homes, you should look at more than just the maximum/RMS power that they can handle. There is no reason to be pushing 500w RMS into a driver that "only has a sensitivity of 87~89db. Why not buy a speaker/driver that can handle 250w RMS and has a sensitivity of ~92~95db. This would give you the same sound output, but at half the power. This would save your cars alternator/battery.Here are some of my favorites.http://www.cerwinvega.com/prod....htmlHere is a really good page.http://www.adelcom.net/CerwinVegaSSSubs.htm[/highjack]



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