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7speed
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Why are there no decent wagons made by Nissan. I love my V, but I know that as soon as a 2nd kid comes along, it'll need to be replaced. I don't want a crossover/SUV. I like the dynamics and look of a wagon. If I were in the market now, I'd be looking at:

BMW 3 SeriesAudi A4VW PassatM-B C-class

But I'd really love to see an Altima wagon. I see enough wagons of the others, I'm surprised Nissan hasn't made a Sentra or Altima wagon. And why not a Maxima wagon to compete with the 5 series, E-class, and A6 wagons. The big 3 of Germany seem to think there is a market, why not Nissan?

Who of you would be interested in a Nissan wagon?


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I would! I love wagons I would love to see a Altima on the underpinnings of the Renault Laguna wagon.

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Nissan is ultimately more Japanese/North American centric.

The luxury brands (except the VW) you mention don't depend as highly on volume sales, and have a stronger European market.

Nissan probably would rather spend the development $ on a sure market rather than risk something that could flop badly.


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this owns your list...



2010 cadillac cts-v wagon.

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Now that's a beautiful car And super colour too !!!

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Too bad that is the best angle to look at the CTS wagon... from the side/rear, it looks like a funeral hearse.

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Andrews Chalmers wrote:from the side/rear, it looks like a funeral hearse.
well then when i die i want to be transported in one of them.

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I haven't quite made up my mind on the CTS.

I think it's great that Caddilac is branching out into that market, but I guess I still see Caddilac as something someone's grandma would buy (I can't see mine giving up her 4Runner). Plus that pic looks like a bad photoshop.

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7speed wrote:If I were in the market now, I'd be looking at:

BMW 3 Series
Go with this one. I avoided BMW for years. When the time came to replace my wife's SAAB one of the used car dealers talked us into test driving a 325i. It was instant love for both of us. Unfortunately another couple test drove the car first and had dibs so we had to hunt down a different car. We ended up with a 325ci cabriolet and my wife is now addicted to BMW. If I could swing it I would trade my Versa for a 325 wagon in a heartbeat.

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7speed wrote:I haven't quite made up my mind on the CTS.

I think it's great that Caddilac is branching out into that market, but I guess I still see Caddilac as something someone's grandma would buy (I can't see mine giving up her 4Runner). Plus that pic looks like a bad photoshop.
i had a 4runner, i was awesome.actually it does look like a bad photoshop, i guess it is only the cts sport wagon (not cts-v). this one is real..

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Nissan had the Avenir and Stagea wagons for years but they were retired in '07 and '04 respectively due to low sales. The Autech Stagea was baddazz with the ATESSA drive train and RB26DETT.



We did have a Stagea as ROTM once...http://www.nicoclub.com/ROTM/rotmnov08.shtml

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Wagons are definitely out of vogue right now. It's the SUV or "crossover" if you want to be cool and not a jerk.

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boxcarbill wrote:Wagons are definitely out of vogue right now. It's the SUV or "crossover" if you want to be cool and not a jerk.
Crossover Era if you will

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Nissan actually used to sell a buttload of wagons here in North America. In the 80s you could get a Sentra, Stanza, or Maxima in wagon form. However, after the 1980s, wagons became very unpopular as baby boomers began to reach middle age. They didn't like wagons for a variety of reasons...largely because they felt the same about wagons as we do today about minivans. So the SUV and minivan moved in to sort of fill that gap. Wagons still existed, but you'll notice that most wagons sold in the last 20 years have not been called wagons. They've had clever marketing names, avoiding the word "wagon" like a plague.

Nissan continued making wagons for other markets even after they gave up on them here, though. Our mid-90s Maxima could be had in wagon form elsewhere. And Nissan made the Stagea, Avenir, Wingroad, and other dedicated wagon models in addition to wagon variants of sedans.

However, I would argue that Nissan currently sells multiple wagons in North America...and they would agree with me (just don't tell their marketing people). Those wagons are:The FXThe EXThe MuranoThe Rogue

All of those are wagons by my definition, which is a car with an extended cabin combined with the cargo area and a liftgate. They are not SUVs as they're not trucks. The FX is based on the M, the EX on the G (in fact the EX is called the Skyline in other markets) and the Murano is based on the Altima while the Rogue is built on the Sentra's platform. The Murano is today's Stanza wagon.The Rogue is today's Sentra wagon.

As for the CTS sportwagon...I think it's one of the sexiest cars in history. Of course I've always had a thing for wagons (I'd kill for one of these).The outgoing first-gen Cadillac SRX was just a ride-heightened STS wagon. The new version is entirely unrelated, now a front-drive compact crossover, and not nearly as attractive as the SRX or CTS wagon.

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The only ppl who like wagons are those who never have to sit in the back of them.

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There's actually a Versa/Tiida wagon; it's the Wingroad.

See how it's marketed in New Zealand as the Tiida wagon? If you go to the Tiida page for Nissan NZ, you'll see that the wagon link leads you to the Wingroad.

I would love to have a Wingroad because while there's enough cabin room inside the V, there's not enough cargo space for a second kid. I think the Wingroad will fit the bill. I too, don't like crossovers and vans but may have to head that direction once a 2nd kid comes along.

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Ginsu wrote:The only ppl who like wagons are those who never have to sit in the back of them.
I disagree with this completely. My mom's Jetta wagon is way better to sit in the back than a regular Jetta. The legroom is equally cramped in both cases, but in the wagon, the headroom is better. Plus my sister's wheelchair can be put in the back, without having to lift it up as high as an SUV/Crossover.

I wouldn't kill for one of these, but I would be sorely tempted

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Ginsu wrote:The only ppl who like wagons are those who never have to sit in the back of them.
Perhaps true of American wagons from the 80s and earlier which had terrible bench seats. But for the most part, wagons are at least as accomodating as sedans. One of the thing that sets most wagons apart from SUVs is that they don't have flat floors. They have footwells like normal sedans...because they're derived from normal sedans. Footwells plus flat rooflines equals lots of passenger space. The flat-floor thing goes a lot deeper than passenger space as far as impact, too...wagons have lower ride heights and lower centers of gravity than SUVs and minivans, which have very high cabin floors...which in turn often means that even though they're tall vehicles, they don't have significantly more headroom.

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The wagon market is pretty much gone in our region. People go either with hatchbacks or SUV's anymore

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With the subject being wagons in general, I'm surpised noone has brought up the Sabaru lines.....They are very popular and still current, but it is a select market. Only really being bought by what I years ago labeled "school teacher" types who view/ buy vehicles mostly as a "tool" to get from "a" to "b" and carry the grocceries / kids, etc and they don't want anything bigger (minivan or suv)... ...I had a good chuckle when my neice, who's a 4th grade teacher, got pregnant and promptly bought a brand new Lagacy Outback for the comming baby!!!


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