Back ground: I always take my Rogue to them NIssan USA stealerships in SoFla and Central Florida, dad's Acura to Honda dealers, mom's Kicks to Nissan Dealer close to UCF (roughly 30 miles far from home).

The stealership in Orlando, the one that's closer to home (not closer to UCF) told me that synthetic oil in batches is cheaper than conventional oil. So they got me to change from 5W-30 oil (the correct oil rating for the 2014-2016 Rogue, idk about 2017-2019 Rogues) to 0W-20 synthetic oil. The price was $4 cheaper than the regular consistent price that I have been paying for 5W-30 oil w/ tire rotation for the past 3 years of ownership.

So is ALL Nissan USA stealerships switching from Conventional to Synthetic (that statement seems fake)? And newer Nissan vehicles (from 2010 MY) are required to use 0W-20 motor oil or is that bulls*** talk from the stealership tryna suck up my hard earned monies?

This s*** is sketchy as the 45th POTUS.

I imagine some dealers might offer something like that, but I'll wager that's not NNA national policy. You said "they got you to change". That suggests you approved it and they did not sneak it by you, right? Personally I would have spent the extra $4 and stayed with the grade/type recommended by Nissan. (not a dealer service writer) I think a bigger question is if you don't trust Nissan dealers (you call 'em "stealerships"), then why're you using them? Virtually any independent shop can work on Nissans, especially little stuff like oil changes, and be cheaper. Fwiw, I never ever use dealers for anything other than warranty/recall stuff. food for thought.

Bubba1 wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:00 pm

I imagine some dealers might offer something like that, but I'll wager that's not NNA national policy. You said "they got you to change". That suggests you approved it and they did not sneak it by you, right? Personally I would have spent the extra $4 and stayed with the grade/type recommended by Nissan. (not a dealer service writer) I think a bigger question is if you don't trust Nissan dealers (you call 'em "stealerships"), then why're you using them? Virtually any independent shop can work on Nissans, especially little stuff like oil changes, and be cheaper. Fwiw, I never ever use dealers for anything other than warranty/recall stuff. food for thought.

I did do an attempt to do an oil change on my driveway, but the 3-ton $99.99 jack that I bought failed. Plus, my parents paid the service (cause they have that non-DIY belief), which also included a fresh set of front brake pads (the cheaper Nissan version). Bright side is that I didn't got one of those students from a technical college to work on my Rogue, since it was some middle-aged guy. I also got a friend that's going to a tech school to be certified in Nissan and Infiniti, so once he is certified, I'll have him work on my Rogue.

This owner's manual to your Rogue states the following:

•Genuine NISSAN engine oil or equivelant
• Engine oil with API Certification Mark
• Viscosity SAE 0W-20
•For further details, see “Engine oil and oil filter recommendations” in this
section.
•As an alternative to this recommended oil, SAE 5W-30 conventional petroleum based oil may be used and meet all specifications and requirements
necessary to maintain the New Vehicle Limited Warranty.

This holds true for all Rogues 2014+ with the QR25DE engine.

Furthermore, many automakers are moving from 5W-30 to 0W-20 in modern engines. I don't remember the exact technical reasons, but the motivation behind it is increase of fuel efficiency.

The super oil nerds will also tell you that 0W-20 oil is a true full synthetic, whereas a 5W-30 is not, but for this particular use case, either is fine. I have run both in our Rogue for 100k combined miles of trouble-free operation.

do you even need a jack to change oil on a rogue?

You should never crawl under a vehicle with just a jack anyways. Buy a set of $30 ramps and learn how to use a wrench. Brake pad swaps are another 30 minute job.

Its a QR25... put ATF in the crankcase if that's what you've got.
The CVT will fail a long time before any lubrication-related issue in the engine takes it out.

Desert Rat wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:58 am

do you even need a jack to change oil on a rogue?

You should never crawl under a vehicle with just a jack anyways. Buy a set of $30 ramps and learn how to use a wrench. Brake pad swaps are another 30 minute job.

I can't fit in that ground clearance. I need more and that floor jack failed completely. Probably ramps in the future oil change..

PapaSmurf2k3 wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:29 pm

Its a QR25... put ATF in the crankcase if that's what you've got.
The CVT will fail a long time before any lubrication-related issue in the engine takes it out.

The CVT hasn't failed yet on me. Plus this CVT repair (if fails in the next 98k miles) should only cost me $100, otherwise goodbye Rogue and hello non-practical sedan/coupe

Desert Rat wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:58 am

do you even need a jack to change oil on a rogue?

In my experience, yeah you need extra clearance. It's pretty tight otherwise. Pair of ramps worked just fine for 5 years for me.

TL;DR: They're using the oil that is recommended in the service manual and the owner's manual.

Check your manual. For the 2014-2016, 0W20 is actually the recommended oil viscosity. 5W30 is an alternate grade that is acceptable, will not to void your warranty, but not the recommendation.

See page 403 of the PDF.
https://cdn.dealereprocess.net/cdn/serv ... -rogue.pdf